Are Doctrines affected by Modern Versions

[Jay Ross]

And do you have evidence of that actually occurring in the most popular reputable versions?

I believe that he will say yes, he does, but why should he throw his pearls of wisdom before . . . . . . (you know the phrase.)

 

[reformed1689]

I believe that he will say yes, he does, but why should he throw his pearls of wisdom before . . . . . . (you know the phrase.)

Because he needs to actually prove his claim. Nobody has actually done that yet other than emotional nonsense.

 

[mjrhealth]

Because he needs to actually prove his claim. Nobody has actually done that yet other than emotional nonsense.

One God one Spirit but you have to chose which is the most reputable version of His word, that is the definition of Nonsense, and Christ who is His word, has a rather good reputation, just seemingly not in the world of "smart men".

 

[Hobie]

And do you have evidence of that actually occurring in the most popular reputable versions?

Would you believe and accept it, if it was shown to be true, is the real question that needs to be looked at.

 

[Willie T]

How many people here speak foreign languages?

 

[Jay Ross]

How many people here speak foreign languages?

I use to speak gibberish many years ago, but no longer use that language as it would be foreign to many others. :cool: ;)

Unfortunately I have lost the habit through my none use of that language for quite a few years now.

How many here speak Strine?

 

[Willie T]

I use to speak gibberish many years ago, but no longer use that language as it would be foreign to many others. :cool: ;)

Unfortunately I have lost the habit through my none use of that language for quite a few years now.

How many here speak Strine?

It's Winter up here, so I have no idea what you said. LOL

 

[reformed1689]

Would you believe and accept it, if it was shown to be true, is the real question that needs to be looked at.

Of course I would. But seeing as I have now asked several times and nobody has given anything....

 

[Jay Ross]

Of course I would. But seeing as I have now asked several times and nobody has given anything....

Let us test you.

Has Genesis 12:1 been correctly translated?

A simple Yes or No answer will do, with your justification of your rational. (Remember the translation of this into English has been around for about 500 years.)

Shalom

 

[reformed1689]

Ac

Let us test you.

Has Genesis 12:1 been correctly translated?

A simple Yes or No answer will do, with your justification of your rational. (Remember the translation of this into English has been around for about 500 years.)

Shalom

Actually you are making the claim, what about it is wrong?

 

[Enoch111]

Has Genesis 12:1 been correctly translated?

Of course it has been correctly translated. Why is this even an issue?

וַיֹּ֤אמֶר יְהוָה֙ אֶל־אַבְרָ֔ם לֶךְ־לְךָ֛ מֵאַרְצְךָ֥ וּמִמֹּֽולַדְתְּךָ֖ וּמִבֵּ֣ית אָבִ֑יךָ אֶל־הָאָ֖רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר אַרְאֶֽךָּ׃
The literal rendering is: And had said Yahweh to Abram, Get out of your country (מֵאַרְצְךָ֥ mê-’ar-ṣə-ḵā), and from your family, and from the house of your father, to a land (הָאָ֖רֶץ hā-’ā-reṣ) that I will show you.

KJV Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

 

[reformed1689]

Of course it has been correctly translated. Why is this even an issue?

וַיֹּ֤אמֶר יְהוָה֙ אֶל־אַבְרָ֔ם לֶךְ־לְךָ֛ מֵאַרְצְךָ֥ וּמִמֹּֽולַדְתְּךָ֖ וּמִבֵּ֣ית אָבִ֑יךָ אֶל־הָאָ֖רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר אַרְאֶֽךָּ׃
The literal rendering is: And had said Yahweh to Abram, Get out of your country (מֵאַרְצְךָ֥ mê-’ar-ṣə-ḵā), and from your family, and from the house of your father, to a land (הָאָ֖רֶץ hā-’ā-reṣ) that I will show you.

KJV Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

Yeah I don't understand the issue either.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Is God dead?

If not, then why do you not talk to Him?

Who says he doesn't? What makes you think you do?

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

GINOLJC, to all.
I must admit, yes, some modern version can affect doctrine, but upon hearing some posts in another topics last night I was just blown away at how some christian, even in leadership position, can be so delusional that even what they are reading they cannot accept.

so my take now is a combination of modern version and years of traditional false teaching is at fault. where are the trend setters? the independent thinker? it seems that everyone is just following, not matter what, at no cost.

people are not thinking about what they read, they just put on their doctrine reading glases and don't care. but the bible is TRUE,
2 Thessalonians 2:10 "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2 Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

as MC Hammer said, "I cain't touch that".

PICJAG.

Bold statements! How far will you go with your declarations?

How far will anybody on this forum go with what they say they believe about Scripture translation?

I can give many examples where modern translations BRAZENLY made changes which directly contradict the KJV and Greek Texts for the only purpose to support ancient unscriptural doctrine.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

And the Spirit is the one whom testifies of scripture in the first place. God is the Alpha and the Omega.

Which <Spirit> do you mean?
Everybody now a days has his own spirit mistakenly in Capital letter for the Holy Spirit of God.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

More reason to be very careful in any version that varies the meaning, or outright deletes what they do not agree with.

More reason to be very careful in shunning or ignoring or hushing or outright denying texts disproving the Sunday Resurrection Myth of all Christianity including SDA.

 

[mjrhealth]

How far will anybody on this forum go with what they say they believe about Scripture translation?

Probably as far as you and some even further...

When Jesus becomes Lord, your life becomes His, once your life becomes His, ever day is His, simply because, for those who love Him one day is not enogh.

 

[Jay Ross]

Ac

Actually you are making the claim, what about it is wrong?

Sorry David, I was not making any claim in my question to you. I was only attempting to fact checking your credentials. It seems, with your refusal to answer my specific question, that your credentials fall very short of the mark.

Shalom

 

[Jay Ross]

Of course it has been correctly translated. Why is this even an issue?

וַיֹּ֤אמֶר יְהוָה֙ אֶל־אַבְרָ֔ם לֶךְ־לְךָ֛ מֵאַרְצְךָ֥ וּמִמֹּֽולַדְתְּךָ֖ וּמִבֵּ֣ית אָבִ֑יךָ אֶל־הָאָ֖רֶץ אֲשֶׁ֥ר אַרְאֶֽךָּ׃
The literal rendering is: And had said Yahweh to Abram, Get out of your country (מֵאַרְצְךָ֥ mê-’ar-ṣə-ḵā), and from your family, and from the house of your father, to a land (הָאָ֖רֶץ hā-’ā-reṣ) that I will show you.

KJV Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

Your credentials, like David Taylor's, also do not stack up well going by your response to my question of David.

Shalom

 

[reformed1689]

Sorry David, I was not making any claim in my question to you. I was only attempting to fact checking your credentials. It seems, with your refusal to answer my specific question, that your credentials fall very short of the mark.

Shalom

So you like to engage in ad hominem. What are YOUR credentials?