Anybody else?

[Riven]

I hope your grandmother is OK....but curious about your comment regarding your former President....?

Thanks. I had to take her back to the doctor today. It seems she has developed bronchitis. Sigh...

We all experience déjà vu at some time in our lives.....science has tried to explain that feeling of knowing someone or somewhere that is inordinately familiar.....but I have heard it said that the genes and cells in our bodies have memories, so who knows?

Yeah, it's weird.

Have you considered night terrors? My grandson used to have them wherever he got sick with a fever. He would see and hear things that were not there and scream in fear. His mother had to hold him and try and calm him down because what he saw was very real and terrifying to him.
As he got older the terrors subsided and now that he is an adult, he doesn’t get them anymore.

Yes, I suppose that's also likely. They stopped when I became a teenager. However, I lived in a real life haunted house. Things moving on their own, Ruhr ferling of being watched, and even seeing apparitions, were quite common. Even my friends who would stay thee night would see them sometimes.

Just before I would fall asleep every night, I would hear the most awful things being said to me. Shouting. So vulgar that I can't repeat them here. Whatever was in that house hated me. It stopped completely when I moved in 2007.

I don’t think anyone knows what causes these either....the mind is an amazing thing when it can create realities that do not exist.

It's an interesting and sometimes frustrating part of my history because I don't have a particularly good explanation for those experiences, and why they stopped when I moved.

 

[Aunty Jane]

I lived in a real life haunted house. Things moving on their own, Ruhr ferling of being watched, and even seeing apparitions, were quite common. Even my friends who would stay thee night would see them sometimes.

Just before I would fall asleep every night, I would hear the most awful things being said to me. Shouting. So vulgar that I can't repeat them here. Whatever was in that house hated me. It stopped completely when I moved in 2007.

It sounds as if you were experiencing demonic attacks. The demons can inhabit material things like houses and furniture or even clothing and jewelry previously owned by those who dabbled in spiritism.
I have experienced these things myself and had to go hunting for things I may have unwittingly brought into my house. Second hand things in particular.
We once lived in a house like that when I was small…..I had awful nightmares and my sister saw people who weren’t there. My mother had the creeps every time she went down into the basement and one night felt a hand on her shoulder….only to find no one there. I was glad when we moved because it never happened again. There were evil spirits in that place.

It's an interesting and sometimes frustrating part of my history because I don't have a particularly good explanation for those experiences, and why they stopped when I moved.

The fact that it stopped when you moved, shows it was something to do with the house, not you.

Its interesting that the Bible forbids any contact with the spirit world….that is because of the demons. (Deut 18:9-12) The Canaanites were heavily into spiritistic and highly immoral practices, and God removed them from the land that he promised to Israel, so that they would not influence his people to do those things….sadly they sometimes did what God warned them not to do….and paid the price.

 

[Matthias]

Does anyone else feel a sense of dread?

I don’t feel a sense of dread; I feel a sense of peace and hope. That’s a major difference between us.

It's kind of like this undercurrent. Subtle, but it's there. It's like there's something wrong in our society, but I can't quite put my finger on what it is.

There has been something wrong in society since the Garden of Eden.

 

[Riven]

I don’t feel a sense of dread; I feel a sense of peace and hope. That’s a major difference between us.

I agree.

There has been something wrong in society since the Garden of Eden.

Well, God shouldn't have put that tree there. He knew what was going to happen.

 

[Matthias]

I agree.

Peace in the valley of agreement.

Well, God shouldn't have put that tree there.

You’re not sure that he did.

He knew what was going to happen.

He did.

 

[Riven]

You’re not sure that he did.

I'm not sure that the whole story isn't just allegory. But let's says it's true, who else would have put the tree there?

 

[Matthias]

I'm not sure that the whole story isn't just allegory. But let's says it's true…

Allegory vs. true. That’s an interesting way to put it.

… who else would have put the tree there?

No one else would have put the tree there.

 

[Riven]

Allegory vs. true. That’s an interesting way to put it.

Well, the Catholics I've spoken to seem to think it's allegory. Whereas the evangelicals I've spoken to seem to think it's literally true.

No one else would have put the tree there.

Seems like God had a plan.

 

[Matthias]

Well, the Catholics I've spoken to seem to think it's allegory.

I’m not a Catholic. (I’m also not a Protestant.) Whether they think it allegorical or not, they should have told you that they believe it is true. Allegory isn’t false vs. true. Allegory is true metaphorically vs. true literally.

Whereas the evangelicals I've spoken to seem to think it's literally true.

I’m not an evangelical, but I would agree with them that it is true.

Seems like God had a plan.

He did and does have a plan for his creation.

Is it possible that you are agnostic because you either don’t know what his plan is or you do and don’t like it?

 

[Riven]

I’m not a Catholic. (I’m also not a Protestant.) Whether they think it allegorical or not, they should have told you that they believe it is true. Allegory isn’t false vs. true. Allegory is true metaphorically vs. true literally.

What are you?

Is it possible that you are agnostic because you either don’t know what his plan is or you do and don’t like it?

No. I'm agnostic because God, if he exists, remains hidden. If all of this is part of a divine plan, then I certainly question why it is the way it is. For example, why did Christ have to be crucified? Why not just forgive humanity and give them eternal life?

 

[Matthias]

What are you?

I’m a Jewish monotheist / primitive Christian. My theology is undeveloped in post-biblical times. The theology of Catholics and Protestants is developed in post-biblical times. (See the Councils of Nicaea, Constantinople and Chalcedon for their developed theology.)

I’ll just mention in passing that the official statement of faith for Christianity Board is Nicene; mine is Ante-Nicene. That is one reason why I don’t self-identify as Christian on this forum. My registration here is “Other Faith”. On forums that don’t have an official statement of faith I’ve registered as “Christian”.

No. I'm agnostic because God, if he exists, remains hidden. If all of this is part of a divine plan, then I certainly question why it is the way it is. For example, why did Christ have to be crucified? Why not just forgive humanity and give them eternal life?

Let’s talk about it after you’ve had time to read the New Testament.

 

[Riven]

I’m a Jewish monotheist / primitive Christian. My theology is undeveloped in post-biblical times. The theology of Catholics and Protestants is developed in post-biblical times. (See the Councils of Nicaea, Constantinople and Chalcedon for their developed theology.)

I’ll just mention in passing that the official statement of faith for Christianity Board is Nicene; mine is Ante-Nicene. That is one reason why I don’t self-identify as Christian on this forum. My registration here is “Other Faith”. On forums that don’t have an official statement of faith I’ve registered as “Christian”.

Huh. Fair enough.

Let’s talk about it after you’ve had time to read the New Testament.

That's probably for the best. I still plan on doing that as soon as things calm down. It seems like a dragon of chaos has erupted in my life.

 

[TheHC]

do read Jesus speak out against the Pharisees, and false doctrine. But ultimately (only my opinion) Jesus went to the crucifixion to demonstrate the Love of God in putting off or down what is false.

Jesus could speak derogatorily about individuals, and their groups, because He could read their heart.

We don’t have that ability. However, we can see their lies, if they say something, and then later contradict themselves.

Or maybe what we know to be facts, but they say something contrary… or they leave out certain details, speaking half-truths, ie., lying by omission.

Here’s something else to consider, in looking for objective viewpoints: the source.
Would you think you’d get the Truth, if you asked Satan about God? Or Judas Iscariot about Jesus?

Have a good day!

 

[PS95]

Jesus could speak derogatorily about individuals, and their groups, because He could read their heart.

We don’t have that ability. However, we can see their lies, if they say something, and then later contradict themselves.

Or maybe what we know to be facts, but they say something contrary… or they leave out certain details, speaking half-truths, ie., lying by omission.

Here’s something else to consider, in looking for objective viewpoints: the source.
Would you think you’d get the Truth, if you asked Satan about God? Or Judas Iscariot about Jesus?

Have a good day!

Yes, if they attend seances and become a spirit medium and marry a spirit medium- should we buy their books and teach the same things and lie about it, and buy more books, should we listen to them?

 

[LjL]

Does anyone else feel a sense of dread? It's kind of like this undercurrent. Subtle, but it's there. It's like there's something wrong in our society, but I can't quite put my finger on what it is.

It is called SIN.

 

[LjL]

I think many Christians think that they will go to heaven upon death.

Very telling isn't it?

 

[2bme]

Does anyone else feel a sense of dread? It's kind of like this undercurrent. Subtle, but it's there. It's like there's something wrong in our society, but I can't quite put my finger on what it is.

It's when beliefs and reality collide.

Humanity has being servicing their lives around believing in whst is not true about reality, which bla bla per usual no one cares (I'm going to A.I generate some schoolgirls) bye.

 

[ReChoired]

What are you?


No. I'm agnostic because God, if he exists, remains hidden. If all of this is part of a divine plan, then I certainly question why it is the way it is. For example, why did Christ have to be crucified? Why not just forgive humanity and give them eternal life?

This may help you on your last question:

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[TheHC]

Ezekiel 18:4 is talking about souls of people that sin and its meaning is ambiguous. As far as the other scriptures you listed nothing to do with souls that die.

That’s why i asked you to use a Lexicon. So please, it would help you to gain accurate knowledge.

In some of those verses I posted (and others), which in a few English versions even say “corpse”, the Hebrew word is ‘ne•pes’” , “soul”.

 

[Grailhunter]

That’s why i asked you to use a Lexicon. So please, it would help you to gain accurate knowledge.

In some of those verses I posted (and others), which in a few English versions even say “corpse”, the Hebrew word is ‘ne•pes’” , “soul”.

Your point?