Adultery vs Fornication

[Behold]

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Let me show the Reader the correct understanding of Adultery, as its 100% misunderstood on forums and in pulpits and in seminaries.

The verse says.......>"So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress:"""


Now did you read it carefully this time?

It says......""If while her HUSBAND liveth."""........"""she be married to another man""........= Adulteress".

Now, that is not fornication., as its always incorrectly taught....... = Its literally a woman with ....2 HUSBANDS.

So what is that?

A.) Adultery.

Now the reason that Jesus lists "fornication".........as a reason for divorce....

So, to understand this, you have to understand that Jesus is God, and God is explaining marriage... like this.

1.) "a man shall leave his parents and CLEAVE to his WIFE".

A.) Cleave = "2 shall be (become) ONE Flesh"....

See that? that is "sexual intimacy" that is : Intercourse...........or "cleaving to your wife" if you are a male, or "flesh joining flesh" as "ONE".

That is how God defines "marriage". (along with : "what God has joined").... and that is why Paul tells us to "flee fornication" as its "flesh joining flesh" : as "ONE">.

So, have you fornicated a lot in your life, reader?
Well guess what........
Do the math.

Now, if you are born again, then all of that is under the blood of Jesus, forgiven, forgotten, as if you never had that past life.
If you are a real CHRISTian, born again.......(not just water baptized and religious) then you are a "NEW Creation", and "old things have//are passed away"......like your past sin life......as God does not remember it.......so, you should let it go also.
So, it..... your past, your past sinful deeds.... have no bearing on you now., as you are "made righteous" forever. "In Christ" as "one with God".

 

[Nancy]

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Let me show the Reader the correct understanding of Adultery, as its 100% misunderstood on forums and in pulpits and in seminaries.

The verse says.......>"So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress:"""


Now did you read it carefully this time?

It says......""If while her HUSBAND liveth."""........"""she be married to another man""........= Adulteress".

Now, that is not fornication., as its always incorrectly taught....... = Its literally a woman with ....2 HUSBANDS.

So what is that?

A.) Adultery.

Now the reason that Jesus lists "fornication".........as a reason for divorce....

So, to understand this, you have to understand that Jesus is God, and God is explaining marriage... like this.

1.) "a man shall leave his parents and CLEAVE to his WIFE".

A.) Cleave = "2 shall be (become) ONE Flesh"....

See that? that is "sexual intimacy" that is : Intercourse...........or "cleaving to your wife" if you are a male, or "flesh joining flesh" as "ONE".

That is how God defines "marriage". (along with : "what God has joined").... and that is why Paul tells us to "flee fornication" as its "flesh joining flesh" : as "ONE">.

So, have you fornicated a lot in your life, reader?
Well guess what........
Do the math.

Now, if you are born again, then all of that is under the blood of Jesus, forgiven, forgotten, as if you never had that past life.
If you are a real CHRISTian, born again.......(not just water baptized and religious) then you are a "NEW Creation", and "old things have//are passed away"......like your past sin life......as God does not remember it.......so, you should let it go also.
So, it..... your past, your past sinful deeds.... have no bearing on you now., as you are "made righteous" forever. "In Christ" as "one with God".

What if a Christian couple divorce for reasons other than fornication, and get married again even though their divorced partner is still living? Should they still be allowed to marry another?

 

[Hobie]

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Let me show the Reader the correct understanding of Adultery, as its 100% misunderstood on forums and in pulpits and in seminaries.

The verse says.......>"So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress:"""


Now did you read it carefully this time?

It says......""If while her HUSBAND liveth."""........"""she be married to another man""........= Adulteress".

Now, that is not fornication., as its always incorrectly taught....... = Its literally a woman with ....2 HUSBANDS.

So what is that?

A.) Adultery.

Now the reason that Jesus lists "fornication".........as a reason for divorce....

So, to understand this, you have to understand that Jesus is God, and God is explaining marriage... like this.

1.) "a man shall leave his parents and CLEAVE to his WIFE".

A.) Cleave = "2 shall be (become) ONE Flesh"....

See that? that is "sexual intimacy" that is : Intercourse...........or "cleaving to your wife" if you are a male, or "flesh joining flesh" as "ONE".

That is how God defines "marriage". (along with : "what God has joined").... and that is why Paul tells us to "flee fornication" as its "flesh joining flesh" : as "ONE">.

So, have you fornicated a lot in your life, reader?
Well guess what........
Do the math.

Now, if you are born again, then all of that is under the blood of Jesus, forgiven, forgotten, as if you never had that past life.
If you are a real CHRISTian, born again.......(not just water baptized and religious) then you are a "NEW Creation", and "old things have//are passed away"......like your past sin life......as God does not remember it.......so, you should let it go also.
So, it..... your past, your past sinful deeds.... have no bearing on you now., as you are "made righteous" forever. "In Christ" as "one with God".

How would you read this text...
Ezekiel 16:32
But as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband!

 

[Nancy]

How would you read this text...
Ezekiel 16:32
But as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband!

I know you are not asking this of me yet, I feel as though to address it.
Ezekiel 16:32, from what I take away from it (in context) is speaking of Israel 'cheating' on God with other gods and idols...

 

[Behold]

How would you read this text...
Ezekiel 16:32
But as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband!

Dont use verses aimed at Israel (OT Jews) and try to overlay them on the NT body of Christ.

See, when you want to know what the Body of Christ has to have as "church doctrine" you dont run to the Old Covenant.
This is so very obvious to a real bible student.... or to common sense.
Paul teaches us to "rightly divided" and you start with understanding that you dont use OT Covenant Jewish teaching AGAINST the NT.
That is "Heresy" 101.

 

[Behold]

How would you read this text...
Ezekiel 16:32
But as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband!

Jewish.

OT Covenant.

Dealing with God's chosen rebelling against their Husband, who is God.

This verse is not for the body of Christ, as any type of "church doctrine".

Its interesting that the idea of "one flesh" and 'sexual intimacy"... is the deepest connection, other then spiritual, and yet, it is spiritual, and that is why God says not to "join ourselves" sexually.... as then we become "one Flesh".
This is why sexual intimacy is "marriage only".

The spiritual aspect of this.....is when a man KNOWS a woman.. then this means sexually., as again its that "one flesh" joining.

And notice that when we are born again, we are :"IN Christ" and Jesus """"KNOWS us"" ... = as His BRIDE........not as his bride to be.
Jesus is 'IN the Christian"... "Christ IN YOU>. the hope of Glory".. .(Glory is heaven).

We are JOINED as """ONE with GOD"".... "in Christ".

Now notice this..

Jesus told some DISCIPLES.......>"i never KNEW YOU.. = depart from me">......... see that ? That "knowing" is... "ONE FLESH"... its the joining of our Spirit with God's, in Christ..

So, READER..... if Jesus does not KNOW YOU.. then you are not joined to Him as His Bride....

= Not born again SPIRITUALLY.

This is why Jesus tells everyone.........."YOU MUST be born again" or He does not "Know you" as One "IN Christ."

 

[DJT_47]

Adultery involves sexual intercourse wherein at least one of the individuals is already married to another person.

Fornication is simply the act of engaging in sexual intercourse with another person.

What becomes tricky, is what God views as being married as opposed to man's views and based on a legal perspective.

Biblically, when 2 people are joined together sexually, they become married. It has nothing at all to do with ceremony or legality, simply the joining together of one flesh with another, the two becoming one as a result of their being joined together.

 

[Hobie]

I know you are not asking this of me yet, I feel as though to address it.
Ezekiel 16:32, from what I take away from it (in context) is speaking of Israel 'cheating' on God with other gods and idols...

Yet, both are adultery, one shows the other to them. Much as when Peter said they had committed murder of His prophets, one was of the prior murder of Gods prophets by Israel in general and the other showed Peter pointed out that they specifically were accomplices of the murder, but both were murder.

Acts 7:52
Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:

 

[Behold]

Adultery involves sexual intercourse wherein at least one of the individuals is already married to another person.

It says......""If while Her HUSBAND = liveth."""........"""she be MARRIED to another man""........= Adulteress".

2 Marriages at the same time.

She has 2 husbands.

Read the verse., dont just parrot what you thought you knew., Reader.

Now, that is not "just" fornication., as its always incorrectly taught....... = Its literally a woman with ....2 HUSBANDS.

So what is that?

A.) Adultery.

Let me try again.

If you are a woman, and you are married and you have sex with your favorite male neighbor, you are fornicating.

Whereas, if you marry your neighbor, and have not divorced your current husband.. then... ""If while Her HUSBAND = liveth."""........"""she be MARRIED to another man""........= Adulteress".

 

[Behold]

It says......""If while Her HUSBAND = liveth."""........"""she be MARRIED to another man""........= Adulteress".

2 Marriages at the same time.

She has 2 husbands.

Read the verse., dont just parrot what you thought you knew., Reader.

Now, that is not "just" fornication., as its always incorrectly taught....... = Its literally a woman with ....2 HUSBANDS.

So what is that?

A.) Adultery.

Let me try again.

If you are a woman, and you are married and you have sex with your favorite male neighbor, you are fornicating.

Whereas, if you marry your neighbor, and have not divorced your current husband.. then... ""If while Her HUSBAND = liveth."""........"""she be MARRIED to another man""........= Adulteress".

 

[Behold]

It says......""If while Her HUSBAND = liveth."""........"""she be MARRIED to another man""........= Adulteress".

= 2 Marriages at the same time.

A.) She has 2 husbands.

Read the verse., dont just parrot what you thought you knew., Reader.

Now, that is not "just" fornication., as its always incorrectly taught....... = Its literally a woman with ....2 HUSBANDS.

So what is that?

AA.) Adultery.

Let me try again.

If you are a woman, and you are married and you have sex with your favorite male neighbor, you are fornicating.

Whereas, if you marry your neighbor, and have not divorced your current husband.. then... ""If while Her HUSBAND = liveth."""........"""she be MARRIED to another man""........= Adulteress".

 

[Rockerduck]

Then there is this too, Between an unbelieving spouse and the believing spouse

1 Corinthians 7:14-15 - For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband; otherwise, your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. 15 But if the unbeliever departs, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases. But God has called us to peace.

 

[Behold]

What if a Christian couple divorce for reasons other than fornication, and get married again even though their divorced partner is still living? Should they still be allowed to marry another?

Yes.

Legalism says.....>"one marriage for life, (wife) even if you married a child molester, who beats you weekly, until you are unconscious".''

So.

We have to understand that God is the author of the 2nd chance. He is the author of a lot of 2nd chances to get it right.....whatever it is....including getting out of a horrible marriage, that is not redeemable.... that is destroying lives.
See.........it can be that you married a monster... a religious nut bar......a psychopath, or worse.
Does God require that you stay in that situation, of endless abuse?
He does not.

The reality is......some Christians will never be able to stop being a Calvinist,, or whatever cult they are controlled by..... and some people will never be anything but horrible.
And that includes some Christians.

Divorce and remarriage, is not only acceptable in cases of "i married a crazed monster, a sexual deviant,, ect..."...it is justified.

 

[Nancy]

Yes.

Legalism says.....>"one marriage for life, (wife) even if you married a child molester, who beats you weekly, until you are unconscious".''

So.

We have to understand that God is the author of the 2nd chance. He is the author of a lot of 2nd chances to get it right.....whatever it is....including getting out of a horrible marriage, that is not redeemable.... that is destroying lives.
See.........it can be that you married a monster... a religious nut bar......a psychopath, or worse.
Does God require that you stay in that situation, of endless abuse?
He does not.

The reality is......some Christians will never be able to stop being a Calvinist,, or whatever cult they are controlled by..... and some people will never be anything but horrible.
And that includes some Christians.

Divorce and remarriage, is not only acceptable in cases of "i married a crazed monster, a sexual deviant,, ect..."...it is justified.

Well yes, there is that of course. I suppose I should have included that with fornication.

 

[Grailhunter]

Yea know that huge ball of twine in Ripley’s believe it or not. For a Theologian a lot of Christian beliefs are like that, and it is our responsibility to unravel that ball of twine. An informed Christian can apply Christianity to their life in a better way.
Looking at the posts I have seen a few discrepancies.

Defining adultery….Aspects of adultery are different in the Old Testament than in Christianity. Adultery in the Old Testament was also unfaithfulness but it was also a property crime. The concept of damaged goods fit here. Her husband cannot sire children through her anymore….so they usually put her to death….he cannot forgive her. Divorce was usually carried out by execution.

In Christianity it is only unfaithfulness and grounds to “put her away” In other words she is removed from the marriage. Same goes for the husband. And the non-sinning party is free to remarry. But it is not called a divorce. The Jewish Mosaic practice of writing a letter of divorcement was not adopted by Christianity. The word divorce does not occur outside the Gospels. In the Gospels it is a Jewish conversation about the Mosaic Law and does not directly correlate to Christianity because we do not know how many wives the Jews had.

In Christianity
The non-offending party can forgive the unfaithful party and reconcile. We are all human and forgiveness is one of the primary tenants of Christianity.

Fornication is not a biblical word and its definition is not in tune with Christianity or even reality. There are Greek words that define specific sexual acts that are considered a sin in Christianity and the translators had a tendency to lump them all under the word fornication which is mostly just a matter of context. The concepts regarding fornication were not formulated until the 4th century and after with strong linguistic ties to prostitutes.

Evolving definitions of fornication came to include…if two single people have sex it is a sin. This is incorrect. Until the 16th century when the Protestant required a church wedding to be married it was the normal way to consummate a marriage. No ceremony required and no biblical requirement for a wedding.

Ramification of this fact. If 2 single people have sex….they are married….whether be it a family unit or casual sex. Those that have a casual sexual encounters and have sex with someone else…it is Adultery.

Christian restrictions on sex is not because it is dirty, nasty, and sinful. Christianity’s restrictions are because the sexual union between those in love is sacred. Instituted by Yahweh Himself. Sexual unions are a bond between husband and wife and the process of procreation. Let your fountain be blessed, And rejoice in the wife of your youth. As a loving hind and a graceful doe, Let her breasts satisfy you at all times; Proverbs 15:18-19

Now the topic of separating for other reasons other than unfaithfulness.

This topic is not biblical. The bible is not going to address abuse of wives and children or just general incompatibility and separating and remarriage other than restrict it.
I can give my opinion, but it is not biblical. And I have done my share of marriage counseling. Marriage is far those in love. Those that hate each other will affect the children and can cause some really crazy things. There are some that love each other but cannot get along. A woman that leaves should be able to start another family. And those that separate should consider an expanded family and include their ex's on family functions and children’s activities.

Abuse….men that beat or other wise abuse their wives or children.....Even Christian men. I have seen some crazy stuff. Men that abuse their wives generally have a plan….they are looking for a woman that does not have someone to stand up for them. My step-father made a serious mistake. He shot my mom point blank in the chest with a .38 Special. After I was done he did not have much of a house left and I stomped him. After 15 years he still looks like a crocked tree when he walks.

One word of advise.....if you get a divorce....do it yourself. It benefits' the lawyers and the courts to get everyone involved to hate one another.

 

[Wrangler]

If you are a woman, and you are married and you have sex with your favorite male neighbor, you are fornicating.

Whereas, if you marry your neighbor, and have not divorced your current husband.. then... ""If while Her HUSBAND = liveth."""........"""she be MARRIED to another man""........= Adulteress".

I disagree. Adultery does not pivot on polygamy. The verse referenced addresses flippant divorce. I think you had it right the first time.

Fornication anyone can do by having extra-martial sex. Adultery is a worse moral failing for it includes violating a vow.

 

[DJT_47]

I disagree. Adultery does not pivot on polygamy. The verse referenced addresses flippant divorce. I think you had it right the first time.

Fornication anyone can do by having extra-martial sex. Adultery is a worse moral failing for it includes violating a vow.

Actually, fornication is the simple act of having sex; has nothing to do with being married or not as extra marital sex would be adultery.

 

[Wrangler]

Actually, fornication is the simple act of having sex; has nothing to do with being married or not as extra marital sex would be adultery.

The term "extra marital" means outside of marriage. Inside of marriage, the same act is called adultery.

Love your username, BTW.

 

[Behold]

Fornication is not a biblical word

King James Bible
"""Flee FORNICATION. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.""

The reason you want to use a bible that uses that Correct description, is because this word is the correct understanding of the specific sex act.
Whereas in most bibles, they do not translate correctly, and they state "sexual immorality".....and that is not specific to "flesh joining flesh, as ONE">.

See, if you are sitting there downloading PORN, you are invested in "sexual immorality" that is not related to fornication or adultery.

This topic is not biblical.

Both Fornication and Adultery are "NT" topics.
Perhaps you should invest in a NT and find out. @Grailhunter

 

[DJT_47]

The term "extra marital" means outside of marriage. Inside of marriage, the same act is called adultery.

Love your username, BTW.

Agree extra marital, but my point was relative to the term fornication which is unrelated to marriage