Taken
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I just showed you Scripture EXPRESSLY contrary to your claim.
I can not BELIEVE or UNDERSTAND Scripture for you.
I Believe Scripture and disagree with you.
Adam's death in the garden explained.
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I just showed you Scripture EXPRESSLY contrary to your claim.
I can not BELIEVE or UNDERSTAND Scripture for you.
I Believe Scripture and disagree with you.
Taken
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Correct.
Neither the soul nor the spirit of man is mortal flesh, but only temporarily housed within the mortal body.
For now, the soul must feel, see, hear, and speak through physical parts of the body.
But the spirit of the mind and thoughts of the heart are not bound by mortal flesh, because man is a spiritual being created in the image of God.
But man is also made a little lower than the angels, who have spiritual bodies only, unlike man on earth with mortal flesh.
The souls of the righteous that are alive in Christ at the end of this life, will be present with the Lord and receive resurrected spiritual bodies greater than those of angels, being then in the likeness of the man Christ Jesus.[/QUOTE]
Yes.
A stupid accusation Sabbath believers <blame their sinning against God on their 'sinful bodies'>. You hypocrite grown up! You are nauseating.
Proud fool. Of the original you know buggerall; of the anointed you know LESS!
Some things in your last paragraph are questionable. But what an inspiring Confession of Faith. God be with you
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Taken
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Not sure “what” you question. This type of media is difficult to elaborate every point.
To this point for example:
“OUR BODY’s LIFE (IS required ONCE, TO DIE).
“IF” you have given your BODY unto Death Crucified with Jesus...
* YOU have fulfilled YOUR ONCE require DEATH!”
** Fulfilled YOUR “requirement” to Receive Salvation, according to Gods WAY of Jesus’ Pure Blood.
** YET “NOT” fulfilled your “requirement” of “your physical Life”, Your blood, (impure), subject to Death. Must die. (Gen 9:5)
Until ^^ a mans physical death requirement is fulfilled...
A converted man “LIVES IN” Christ Jesus’ Risen body.
“Thus, called “IN” Christ’.
Glory to God,
The Lord Gods blessings upon you.
Taken
Robert Gwin
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Love you bro, keep strong our deliverance is near. Sat morning available today, hooray.
Robert Gwin
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Our basic Scriptural knowledge is different as you observe Taken. The Bible clearly teaches God put the breath (Ruach) of life into Adam, I believe it, and when that spirit (ruach) goes out we die. Simple Biblical truth sir. Gen 2:7; Ps 146:4 I believe it.
Robert Gwin
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No sir, you gave your interpretation of what was written. No one is literally inside of God or Jesus, and visa versa, those in Christ are his anointed servants, and it means they have a covenanted relationship with both God and Jesus.
Taken
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I quotes Scriptures.
Bad idea to attempt to explain spiritual things with a carnal mind.
If you not IN Him, and He not IN you...oops on you.
Rom 8
[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
1 John 4:
[4] Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1 John 4:
[13] Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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ewq1938 said,
"Did you have any scripture showing Adam was ever immortal?" [/QOUTE\]
Genesis 2:7 is a Scripture that shows Adam nor any other human is immortal.
The scriptures show that Adam died. Today he is not a living person, he doesn't exist.
Genesis 2:7 is telling us how God brought the first human being into existence as a living soul or living person.
God tells us he took dust from the ground and formed it into a flesh and blood human body then he blew the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person. We can see that it's the combination of God combining a flesh and blood human body with the breath of life(spirit) which causes a living soul or living person to come into existence. So when that breath of life(spirit) leaves the flesh and blood human body, that living soul or living person no longer exists. The breath of life(spirit) separately, on it's own, without the flesh and blood human body, isn't a living soul or living person and neither is the flesh and blood human body separately, on it's own, without the breath of life(spirit) in that flesh and blood human body, a living soul or living person.
So when the breath of life(spirit) left Adams body at death,the living soul or the living person ceased to exist.
"Did you have any scripture showing Adam was ever immortal?" [/QOUTE\]
Genesis 2:7 is a Scripture that shows Adam nor any other human is immortal.
The scriptures show that Adam died. Today he is not a living person, he doesn't exist.
Genesis 2:7 is telling us how God brought the first human being into existence as a living soul or living person.
God tells us he took dust from the ground and formed it into a flesh and blood human body then he blew the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person. We can see that it's the combination of God combining a flesh and blood human body with the breath of life(spirit) which causes a living soul or living person to come into existence. So when that breath of life(spirit) leaves the flesh and blood human body, that living soul or living person no longer exists. The breath of life(spirit) separately, on it's own, without the flesh and blood human body, isn't a living soul or living person and neither is the flesh and blood human body separately, on it's own, without the breath of life(spirit) in that flesh and blood human body, a living soul or living person.
So when the breath of life(spirit) left Adams body at death,the living soul or the living person ceased to exist.
Robert Gwin
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Most anyone 5yrs old or above can tell you where Jesus resides sir. They reside in heaven, when your version mentions Christ being in you, it means that you submit to his guiding your life. So best to obey him don't you think Ger?
Robert Gwin
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Believe what you like, since Jesus resides in heaven, might be nice if you would find out what the verses mean don't you think?
Taken
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I believe What Scripture reveals.
Yes Jesus IS in Heaven.
Already KNOW and HAVE experienced WHAT those verses MEAN.
While Jesus IS in Heaven...A Spirit of God, RESIDES “IN” converted men....Expressly BECAUSE the man “IS CONVERTED”.
Are you NOT aware of such revealed Knowledge?
The problem lies here: <the breath of life(spirit)>. It should be: 'the breath(spirit) of life> - life God-breathed-in, special, human, life God breathed into man's nostrils with earth's dust for breathing, air(spirit).
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When Jesus said: "Into your hand My Father, I commend my spirit", He put His, "my spirit", His Life, into the Father's hands.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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What I posted is accurate, God took dust from the ground and formed it into a flesh and blood human body then blew the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person. The fact of the matter is, that people can't disregard the word "became" in this scripture. If the breath of life(spirit) separately, on it's own, without the flesh and blood human body, was already a living soul or living person, then in Genesis 2:7, the word that should have been used is "gave" not "became." But this scripture uses the word "became" so it's the combined act of God creating a flesh and blood human body, then blowing the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body is how the first human being became a living soul or living person. So if you try to say that the breath of life(spirit) separately, on it's own, without the flesh and blood human body is a living soul or living person that contradicts Genesis 2:7.
So Genesis 2:7 is telling us that when the breath of life(spirit) is no longer in the flesh and blood human body, that living soul or living person, ceases to exist.
I know that the majority of the people don't believe death to be nonexistence but Genesis 2:7 is very clear that without the flesh and blood human body with the breath of life(spirit) in that flesh and blood human body there is no living soul or living person. Again I say that Genesis 2:7 makes it very clear that the breath of life (spirit) separately, on it's own, without the flesh and blood human body isn't a living soul or living person.
You are telling yourself your own problem. Nobody thinks the form of man did not BECOME a living soul. But you think these elements alone became man the living soul, <a flesh and blood human body then blew the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person>. You say it three times and three times say it different than it is Written! You equate 'life' and 'spirit' while the Word equates "breath" and "spirit". Now God being the 'blower' of the 'spirit' / 'wind' / 'air' / 'dust of the earth', it is not simply air-dust blown into a clay-dust form which God formed / made / created, but it is "God-Breathed"! It thus and therefore is God, breathing His LIFE into the clay He had formed in the image of the GOD-formed body which then thus becomes inflated and saturated with "GOD-breathed-LIFE" -- THE CREATING AGENT THE MAIN ELEMENT OF ALL LIFE. <the breath of life(spirit)> is not accurate, it's wrong and contradicts the "spirit-breath-of-life" as written, the accurate equation and equivalent of "spirit-breath-WITH-Life-GOD-Breathed-LIFE".
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