Adam's death in the garden explained.

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

You are telling yourself your own problem. Nobody thinks the form of man did not BECOME a living soul. But you think these elements alone became man the living soul, <a flesh and blood human body then blew the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person>. You say it three times and three times say iy different than it is Written! You equate 'life' and 'spirit' while the Word equates "breath" and "spirit". Now God being the 'blower' of the 'spirit' / 'wind' / 'air' / 'dust of the earth', it is not simply air-dust blown into a clay-dust form which God formed / made / created, but it is God-breathed! It thus and therefore is God breathing HIS Life into the clay He had formed in the image of the GOD-formed body which then thus becomes inflated spiritually with GOD'S "breath-of-GOD'S-LIFE" -- THE CREATING AGENT THE MAIN ELEMENT OF ALL LIFE. <the breath of life(spirit)> is not accurate, it's wrong and contradicts the "spirit-breath-of-life" as written the accurate equation and equavalent of "spirit-breath-WITH-Life-GOD-Breathed-LIFE".

Genesis 2:7 shows us that the breath of life(spirit) separately, on it's own, without the flesh and blood human body, isn't a living soul or living person Genesis 2:7 is biblical proof that it's the combined act of God creating a flesh and blood human body, and then he blowing the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood human body is how that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person. I will say it many times and many ways about what Genesis 2:7 makes very clear. So if I have to say it another way to help make it clear what Genesis 2:7 shows us I will, because
eternal lives are at stake, and Satan has deceived the whole inhabited earth to believe many lies. One of those lies is that human beings have immortal souls. Genesis 2:7 is biblical proof that human beings don't have immortal souls.
Hopefully some will believe what Genesis 2:7 clearly teaches, that humans beings don't have immortal souls.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Hopefully some will believe what Genesis 2:7 clearly teaches, that humans beings don't have immortal souls.

Sure; hopefully some believe what Genesis 2:7 clearly teaches, that humans, created beings, don't have immortal souls, GOD BREATHED LIFE into them before they ever became alive, or ever will be immortalised!

 

[BeyondET]

The tree of life can provide immortality. Adam clearly never chose to eat from it.

Adam had no choice to eat, man was cut off from the tree of life, because he had eaten from the knowledge tree thus it was possible immortality,

 

[n2thelight]

He actually did die that day , from God's view

II Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

 

[Robert Gwin]

I believe What Scripture reveals.
Yes Jesus IS in Heaven.

Already KNOW and HAVE experienced WHAT those verses MEAN.
While Jesus IS in Heaven...A Spirit of God, RESIDES “IN” converted men....Expressly BECAUSE the man “IS CONVERTED”.

Are you NOT aware of such revealed Knowledge?

I think I can agree with the way you phrased it this time Taken, although we would have a very different understanding. Jesus' born again disciples, those called to be holy ones of the covenant are indeed baptized by holy spirit. They are special because of that sir, called a chosen race, a royal priesthood. 1 Peter 2:9

 

[Taken]

I think I can agree with the way you phrased it this time Taken, although we would have a very different understanding. Jesus' born again disciples, those called to be holy ones of the covenant are indeed baptized by holy spirit. They are special because of that sir, called a chosen race, a royal priesthood. 1 Peter 2:9

God IS Spirit. God “IN” a man is “A Spirit of God “IN” the man.

“A” Spirit of God? Yes.
The whole of God IS the whole of His Spirit.
The whole of Gods Spirit IS: His Power, His Glory, which God will NOT give to an other.

From the one Same Spirit (God), God gives men Particular Spirits of God.

1 Cor 12:
[4] Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
[8] For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
[9] To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

A man IN Christ Jesus, is a man who has the Spirit of Truth.
* Jesus...Word, Truth, Life, Way
* Christ...Seed, Power, Wisdom

Rev 3:
[1] And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Who hath the Seven Spirits of God? Who saith; ?
Rev 1:
[1] The Revelation of Jesus Christ...

Isa 11:
[1]And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
[2] And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

1) The Spirit of the LORD
2) The Spirit of wisdom
3) The Spirit of understanding
4) The Spirit of counsel
5) The Spirit of power
6) The Spirit of knowledge
7) The Spirit of the fear of the Lord

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Sure; hopefully some believe what Genesis 2:7 clearly teaches, that humans, created beings, don't have immortal souls, GOD BREATHED LIFE into them before they ever became alive, or ever will be immortalised!

I'm not clear what you're trying to say here. What I do know is that Genesis 2:7 is biblical proof that we human beings don't have immortal souls. So when human beings die they are no longer living souls or living persons.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Robert Derrick said,
And when the BODY DIES...the Living soul...Departs...the eye continue to see, the ears hear, the mouth speaks etc.....the senses the Living soul, continues living APART from it’s dead and buried body![/QUOTE\]

This, what you posted here, is in disagreement with Genesis 2:7. The scriptures are very clear, Genesis 2:7 shows us, that we are souls, not that we have souls. Genesis 2:7 also shows us that when the breath of life(spirit) isn't in the flesh and blood human body, human beings are no longer living souls or living persons. If people keep disagreeing with Genesis 2:7 thinking what they say, which is in disagreement with Genesis 2:7, then they think their wisdom, to be greater than God's wisdom, and they're calling God a liar.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

ewq1938 said: ↑
The tree of life can provide immortality. Adam clearly never chose to eat from it.
Adam had no choice to eat, man was cut off from the tree of life, because he had eaten from the knowledge tree thus it was possible immortality,

No problem in the least when the Providential Almighty Power and Sovereignty of God is believed. God's Will was performed. Believe it or leave it. If no drop of rain falls without God willed it, how man, created in the image of God in Christ?

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

To explain sin is to maintain sin.

 

[Robert Gwin]

God IS Spirit. God “IN” a man is “A Spirit of God “IN” the man.

“A” Spirit of God? Yes.
The whole of God IS the whole of His Spirit.
The whole of Gods Spirit IS: His Power, His Glory, which God will NOT give to an other.

From the one Same Spirit (God), God gives men Particular Spirits of God.

1 Cor 12:
[4] Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
[8] For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
[9] To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

A man IN Christ Jesus, is a man who has the Spirit of Truth.
* Jesus...Word, Truth, Life, Way
* Christ...Seed, Power, Wisdom

Rev 3:
[1] And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Who hath the Seven Spirits of God? Who saith; ?
Rev 1:
[1] The Revelation of Jesus Christ...

Isa 11:
[1]And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
[2] And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

1) The Spirit of the LORD
2) The Spirit of wisdom
3) The Spirit of understanding
4) The Spirit of counsel
5) The Spirit of power
6) The Spirit of knowledge
7) The Spirit of the fear of the Lord

God is spirit, all who reside in heaven are spirits, God is not "in" anyone sir, but the spirit of God can be. May I ask point blank, what is your point Taken?

 

[Taken]

God is spirit, all who reside in heaven are spirits, God is not "in" anyone sir, but the spirit of God can be. May I ask point blank, what is your point Taken?

Primarily your oxymoron argument.

God is spirit.
God is not "in" anyone.
but the spirit of God can be. (In you)

 

[ewq1938]

God is spirit, all who reside in heaven are spirits, God is not "in" anyone sir, but the spirit of God can be.

The spirit of God is God.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Primarily your oxymoron argument.

I think we agreed all along, for the most part anyway, so if you basically agreed, why the continuation of the posts for refinement?

 

[Robert Gwin]

The spirit of God is God.

No sir, Jehovah is God, His Ruach is His power. It is used in many ways as seen throughout the Bible.

 

[ewq1938]

No sir, Jehovah is God, His Ruach is His power.

The Ruach is Jehovah. Jesus is Jehovah.

 

[Robert Gwin]

The Ruach is Jehovah. Jesus is Jehovah.

Who then is the God of Jehovah sir, since you say Jesus is Jehovah and he definitely promoted his God? Why do you think Jn 3:16 is wrong?

 

[ewq1938]

Who then is the God of Jehovah sir, since you say Jesus is Jehovah and he definitely promoted his God?

The God of Jehovah the Son is Jehovah the Father. Jehovah is = Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

 

[Robert Gwin]

The God of Jehovah the Son is Jehovah the Father. Jehovah is = Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Who did Jesus say his God was sir? Kinda settles it doesn't it Q?

 

[ewq1938]

Who did Jesus say his God was sir? Kinda settles it doesn't it Q?

No, it doesn't settle anything. God the Son's God is his Father. Doesn't change that the son is still God/Divine.