How do we have a "low view of Christ", when we acknowledge him as the one sent by his Father to sacrifice his life for mankind? (John 17:3) We see him as the “Son of God” which is what he called himself. (John 10:36) Never once did Jesus claim to be God incarnate....that idea was not made 'church doctrine' until the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE declared these “three” to be “one” God. So where was the trinity from man’s beginning?
Until the foretold apostasy of the Christian Faith, in the centuries after Jesus death, it existed only in paganism.
Have you never questioned the “sonship” of Jesus and when his life began?
The man Jesus did not exist until God created him by transferring the lifeforce of his “firstborn” son from heaven to the womb of a Jewish virgin as the scriptures foretold. He existed in heaven before coming to earth, but that does not make him God or even equal to God.
The trinity teaches that there are three gods.....”God the Father...”God the Son”...and “God the Holy Spirit”. That is not one God but three separate gods. To squeeze them all into one “head” is merely an attempt to dodge the accusation of polytheism.
These three can be in different places at the same time, and talk to one another. Jesus prayed to his Father but not to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is never once said to be “God”, but like the son, is something that belongs to God. (God's son...God's spirit)
The role of God’s “firstborn” in Colossians presents him as the one “through” whom creation came. It did not come “from” him.
“He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.” (Colossians 1:15-17 ESV)
He is the “image” of his God...a true reflection of him in personality, words and actions. All things were created by him as the
agency used by the Father....as it says “
all things were created through him and for him”....it’s plainly stated unless you want to read over what it says and put a trinitarian spin on it.
The Son is not the Creator, but the one who put together or fabricated the raw materials that were brought into existence by Jehovah. The son comes
from the Father like all sons do. A father naturally exists before his son, so why would God use that designation if the relationship between them was not that which humans understand that relationship to mean?
The son was "begotten" long before he came to earth. He is God's "firstborn" which in our understanding, means what? He is the first of many "sons of God". His creation was unique in that he was the first and only direct creation of his Father and enjoyed a closeness to to his Father that none of the others "sons" had. This is what "only begotten" means in his case.
The Holy Spirit is God’s power, directed to whomever, and wherever it is needed...and in due measure.
If humans exhibit multiple personalities, it is classed as a disorder....a mental illness. So if God was really three persons in one head, then those who exhibit multiple personalities should be classed a “normal”....or even “gifted”. Are they?
If the Jews were God’s chosen nation, and the only man in all of scripture to be designated as “God’s friend” was Abraham, then please tell me why this triune God who has supposedly always existed, was unknown to him or to the Jewish prophets? Where is this three headed god in OT scripture? He does not exist except in paganism. The Egyptians had their trinity....long before Jesus walked the earth.
The trinity can be traced back to Babylon.....hence I believe that those who uphold this doctrine are part of the greater Babylon.....spoken about in Revelation.....”Babylon the great” is disgusting to God and is portrayed as a prostitute, (Revelation 17:1-5, Revelation 18:2-5) something God accused his nation of being when they took up pagan religious beliefs and practices. (Ezekiel 23:35)
The trinity has been around so long that Christendom does not question it, but it is a clear breach of the first Commandment to put another “god” in the Father’s place, or on equal footing with him. (Exodus 20:3; Deuteronomy 6:4)
Jesus is called “theos” (god) in the scriptures.....but so is satan. Being of divine origin, does not make him God’s equal, nor does it make him part of a “godhead”... a word that does not appear in the Bible at all.
The word "beginning" in Hebrew is "
rē'šîṯ" and it means exactly that.
- "first, beginning, best, chief
- beginning
- first
- chief
- choice part"
In Greek "beginning is "
archē" which also means..."1. beginning, origin;
a. used absolutely, of the beginning of all things: ἐν ἀρχῇ,
John 1:1"
I can find no verse in which this word means "beginner". And if you want to use "origin" it means the same thing...creation originated with the son as the agency used to bring all things into existence, working alongside his God and Father. (Proverbs 8:30-32; John 1:2-4)
Jesus has a God even in heaven.....
Revelation 3:12...
"The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God. Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name."
Now please tell me if these scripture state that Jesus is Almighty God.....? Or is he simply the unique, divine, "only begotten" Son of God, sent by his Father on a mercy mission?
