Retrobyter said:
Shalom, Eric E Stahl.
Precisely as I see it. I beiieve that the Millennium - the first 1000 years of the Messiah's reign - the time when haSatan is imprisoned - a time that doesn't begin until AFTER the Messiah's return and is yet in the future - is a time that will still see death and destruction and the Messiah conquering His enemies. It will be a time when the King of kings and Master of masters will become in CONTROL! He will arrest kings and kingdoms, conquering them and taking over the earth over a 1000-year period. It will not be until toward the END of the 1000 years that He will be the absolute World Emperor, until the last enemy that has to be conquered is literally death itself!
According to Revelation 20, it is THEN that haSatan is released, he forms a rebellion against the LORD'S Messiah, and the rebellion is destroyed in THE FIRE. The Great White Throne Judgment - the FINAL Judgment - THEN takes place.
After the GWTJ, God re-creates the Earth and the Sky, making the New "Heaven" (Sky) and the New Earth. It is not until THEN that we read in Revelation that God shall wipe away every tear and the New Jerusalem descends to the earth.
I'm not satisfied unless I'm quoting Scripture because who really cares what I believe?
1 Corinthians 15:20-28
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
KJV
Revelation 20:1-21:11
20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
KJV
Shalom Retrobyter,
I agree with everything you said but this:
It will be a time when the King of kings and Master of masters will become in CONTROL! He will arrest kings and kingdoms, conquering them and taking over the earth over a 1000-year period. It will not be until toward the END of the 1000 years that He will be the absolute World Emperor
I believe that when He returns as King of Kings and Lord of Lords He will BE in control and everyone will be required to make their choice before the start of the seventh day.
Rev 19:15 Now
out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron.
He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16 And He has on [His] robe and on His thigh a name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
Rev 19:17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven,
"Come and gather together for the supper of the great God,
Rev 19:18
"that you may eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them, and the flesh of all [people], free and slave, both small and great."
Rev 19:19 And
I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
Rev 19:21 And
the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse.
EVERYONE who does not claim Jesus as Lord WILL be killed before the seventh day begins.
There will be children born to those who remain and these have free will and some will choose not to worship The Lord but He has a simple solution:
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass [that] everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And
it shall be [that] whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain.
Arnie Manitoba said:
I must have missed that one .... where can i find more details . thanks
Just one ..... do you know when the following .... "appointed time" .... began ? Thanks
But you, Lord, sit enthroned forever;
your renown endures through all generations.
You will arise and have compassion on Zion,
for it is time to show favor to her;
the appointed time has come.
Greetings Arnie,
This is what I've found so far. You can also do a word search on the site for "Zion", "appointed time", or any other word you are looking for. There are too many hits on these words to list them all.
God bless.
Thus says The Lord God:
Behold, even My own people go the way of the afflicted of sin,
Following after those desolate of the Spirit
Who remain married to this world...
Yet I shall save them out of all their troubles!
For My own name’s sake will I do it!...
For the sake of Judah, I will cover them;
For the sake of Jacob, I shall hold them in safety;
And for the sake of David, My servant, I shall gather them under My wing.
O city of David, My Jerusalem, give Me glory! For The Lord has seen your travail, for it has come. Yet it shall not stand, for you are Mine... I am married unto you! Vengeance is Mine! Says The Lord. And I, Myself, shall go before you and fight against them!
And those who devise evil against you shall be thrown down! They shall not stand! For they have agreed together as one, and as one shall their agreement be turned into death... The grave shall be their reward! Recompense, in full, shall I give them in My hot displeasure! In My fury I shall destroy them!... Save a sixth part who shall not be counted among the condemned, the punished of My anger, says The Lord.
Beloved of The Shepherd, this you shall see;
Lo, you shall behold it with your own eyes...
And shortly thereafter, you and yours shall be no more in the earth.
Excerpt from:
Israel is Mine! Watchmen, Sound the Trumpet, the Alarm of War!...Says the Lord
Thus says The Lord your God, The God of Israel, The God of All, He who searches the hearts and minds, even the innermost thoughts and intentions: I, alone, see through the pretense of men; and I, even I, test the quality of every good work done in My name, revealing of what sort it truly is. Therefore, I ask you, shall you seek to do as those who have rejected Me, as all those who forsake My Son, who have no voice before Me and remain void of My Spirit?!... I tell you the truth, their fasts and their offerings I have not accepted! Their sacrifices I do hate! Shall My own people, who are not My people, come before Me in My name to fast for the dead?! Shall they call on My name, while at the same time rejecting My Son?! Lo, they will indeed come, yet I will turn to them My back, and My ears will in no wise hear them!... For they are broken off! Says The Lord.
And what of you, beloved, where do you stand?
And where have I placed you,
According to your acceptance of My Son?...
Answer, if you know...
For indeed it has come to pass, even since the day
I dwelt among them in the flesh, Immanu El...
Behold, they were broken off, that you might be grafted in.
For out of unbelief they have been forsaken for a time, even for two days in The Lord. Yet the day has come, and is nearly upon them, when they will be grafted in again. For I AM, and I am able to graft them in again. Yet of that day, it has not fully come. And so I ask you, why do you now endeavor to take part in the futile customs of the unbeliever? How is it you seek to seat yourself among those who lack knowledge and forsake understanding?...
Their fasts are in vain! They are not accepted!
Yet I ask you, all you who have not denied Me who also believe this Word, why do My servants fast on the Sabbath as I have commanded them
[1]? And of you, who I did not command, why do you also take part? Yes you too shall fast, indeed I will require it of you, yet only those who present themselves before Me in sincere devotion, as one swallowed up in much sorrow over the absence of The Bridegroom, and over all this death which has come and is coming to fill the world in blood, shall be accepted.
Yes, over this shall you fast, over this shall you wail...
All these crying children, all these hardened hearts, all this death and murder, all this injustice and godlessness; tears as a river, tears and blood and much wailing, great evil and the slaughter of the innocent; and also because of that which I am about to pour out upon your nation, as a recompense for all their wickedness, in where they have utterly forsaken Me! Yet those of Israel, who reject Messiah, go out to cry over all their dead, and fast because of all this punishment I have allowed to overtake them.
Yet I hear no repentance,
I hear no wailing at all over their forsaking of The Holy One,
He whose life was poured out for them...
Nor over that which their fathers had done to Him,
Which remains atop their marred heads...
Enmity, such bitter tears...
My own people, who were the apple of My eye, forsake Me still...
Take no part in their festivals, therefore,
Take no part in their wailing over the dead,
As though I am not able at this very moment
To call them forth from their graves and from their tombs,
To raise them ALL from the dust of the earth, once again.
Excerpt from:
Who, Among You Oh Israel, and Among You Oh Olive Branches, Have Fasted Unto Me?! Says The Lord God
http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Who%2C_Among_You_Oh_Israel%2C_and_Among_You_Oh_Olive_Branches%2C_Have_Fasted_Unto_Me%3F%21_Says_The_Lord_God
Thus says The Lord God of Israel: The time has come, when I shall rise up and spare My people. Yea, I shall stretch out My hand and deliver them, even all of them; yes, the believer and the wicked alike shall be spared... Even all who dwell in My land, the land which I had promised to Abraham and have given to the seed of Jacob, forever.
Yet let it be known, and let the people understand: For My own name’s sake shall I perform this, for it is time to reveal My hand to the peoples of the earth. It is time for the name of The Lord your God to be made known, for I shall cause My name to resound in all the earth...Behold, it shall resound loudly! It shall sound! And My power shall be made fully known!
Then shall you know, even as it is written and I Myself had spoken it, that I AM THE LORD; and I have dealt with you for My own name’s sake, and not according to your wicked ways, nor according to your corrupt doings, O house of Israel, says The Lord God.
Therefore, let My people bow down and give thanks. And let the atheist consider and weep for his soul; let his intellect fail him and his heart melt like wax before the fire... And let all My enemies fear! LET ALL IN THE EARTH TREMBLE! For behold, I am standing! I am coming down to take a stand! And My anger has come up into My face!
Behold, the enemies of Israel are gathered together; evil thoughts have entered their hearts. Lo, I have hardened them for My purpose, saying, “COME FORTH! Gather together! Come swiftly! Yes, all you wicked nations, come! Make a pact and come forth! You, and your armies with you! Yes, come against the land I had given to My people! Come quickly to destroy and take your spoil!”... For the time has come, and I am eager to perform My will...
Stand fast in battle array, cover the land like a shadow and take aim! For you shall be cut down! I shall cut you down as blighted wheat before the scythe, as a diseased sheaf left standing in the open field, set as stubble before the fire! Says The Lord.
Behold, I shall make of you a spectacle!
And you shall be for a sign to all nations!
Even the sun shall be covered!...
And you and all your company shall be struck by My own hand!
Yes, I shall strike you down and fill your hearts with madness!
FOR I AM THE LORD!
The God who reigns in Israel!...
The One and Only True God, Creator of Heaven and Earth!...
YAHUWAH!
Excerpt from:
Enemies of Israel, Come Forth
Thus says The Lord God: I will defend My people, Israel, and take vengeance upon My enemies. For My own name’s sake will I do it, and for My servant David’s sake shall it be done... And thereafter shall My witnesses be sent into battle...
For behold, I have only just begun to speak! Says The Lord of Hosts. I have only just begun to reveal the power of The Lord! I have only just begun to reveal My anger! Yet if it were not for the sake of a remnant among those yet to be called, and for the sake of My name in Israel, that it may be glorified, I would have destroyed the enemies of Israel already, blotting them from the face of the whole earth. Thus I have withheld My hand, and have not yet taken vengeance upon My enemies. Yet I shall not withhold My hand for much longer, neither shall My wrath tarry.
For I shall surely stretch out My hand and strike the nations, and the slaughter shall be very great! Many ten thousands shall fall in one day!... A great destruction, even of all their devices! For The Lord God shall come out against them mightily!... Very dreadful in battle!With a terrible destruction shall I be glorified in My strength, and the slaughter shall be great!... A slaughter which has never been seen in Israel, slaughter of such a kind, causing ALL in the earth to tremble!
And those who hear of it, even their ears will tingle, with their hearts skipping a beat within their chests. Then they will know, I AM THE LORD, when I have magnified Myself in the land of Israel, when I have shaken the mountains of Israel, with My presence!... Yea, in the hearts of many shall My name be hallowed, on that day.
Behold, I shall lift up an ensign to all nations!
It shall be forged with fire,
And painted with the blood of mighty men!
With the smoke thereof rising to heaven!
For I was there, when My people were slaughtered...
I was with each one, as they breathed their last;
I was with them in their torment, I shared in their agony;
I endured their pain, and their anguish I knew...
We did weep together!
Indeed, I had handed them over, and scattered them amongst the nations, and this at their own request. For their forefathers had sworn it, and throughout their generations they have upheld it. Therefore was My anger kindled against them; thus did I drive them out and scatter them amongst the nations...
Bitter enmity, great sadness. Yet I did not hold onto My anger forever, and My love never departed from them; neither did I forsake them in their trials. Behold, I was there at the end of their tribulations, for they did behold My face as they fell asleep.
And now the time has come; the time of vengeance is very near! And I shall surely repay! Great calamity shall increase and come forth, from every corner! And many ten thousands shall fall! Multitudes will lie down, on every side!...
And many will fear.
Behold, a great wailing shall be heard from one end of the earth to the other, and many will turn against Me. Even among the flocks, called by My own name, shall there be many who turn away and mock My promises...
Thus that, which is written, shall be fulfilled. Even some, from among this little flock, will fall away, saying within themselves,
“Where is the promise of His coming?”
Excerpt from:
I Will Defend My People, Israel
http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=I_Will_Defend_My_People%2C_Israel
r 4:12 For the word of God [is] living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
