10-1 LIVE NOW Iran fires 150 ballistic missiles across Israel in unprecedented attack; Israelis in bomb shelters

[Biblepaige]

Oh, my Lord.

Oct. 1: Home Front Command eases restrictions after Iran missile attack

Palestinian killed by shrapnel in West Bank * IDF chief says Israel 'will choose' when to retaliate * Biden says US in 'active discussion' with Israel on how to respond to Tehran

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Jack]

PITY Israel's enemies!

 

[tailgator]

Oh, my Lord.

Oct. 1: Home Front Command eases restrictions after Iran missile attack

Palestinian killed by shrapnel in West Bank * IDF chief says Israel 'will choose' when to retaliate * Biden says US in 'active discussion' with Israel on how to respond to Tehran

www.timesofisrael.com

Hiding in the caves ,in the dens of the mountains.
Give it another 4 years or so and it will.be for real.

 

[Debp]

Oh, my Lord.

Oct. 1: Home Front Command eases restrictions after Iran missile attack

Palestinian killed by shrapnel in West Bank * IDF chief says Israel 'will choose' when to retaliate * Biden says US in 'active discussion' with Israel on how to respond to Tehran

www.timesofisrael.com

I heard 180 missiles came into Israel all at one time. Must be horribly frightening. They have lived like this for years but 180 at once!

 

[Douggg]

The Gog/Magog event seems to be getting closer.

 

[Jay Ross]

The Gog/Magog event seems to be getting closer.

Douggg, has Satan and the other judged heavenly hosts and the judged kings of the earth been imprisoned yet? (Isaiah 24:21-22) An if so, have they been released yet? Does not the Gog/Magog happen after Satan and company are released after their 1,000-year imprisonment in the Bottomless pit.

So, my maths suggests that the God/Magog army will not begin to sweep all over the earth for another 1,020 years from now.

From this we can deduce that the Armageddon Judgement will being in around 20 years' time.

So, I suppose that the Gog/Magog event seems to be getting closer each year by 1 year as Satan's time of imprisonment in the Bottomless pit moves slowly towards its completion.

Oh well, there are many unqualified prophets sprouting their wares on the internet these days.

 

[Douggg]

So, my maths suggests that the God/Magog army will not begin to sweep all over the earth for another 1,020 years from now.

From this we can deduce that the Armageddon Judgement will being in around 20 years' time.

My math is based upon the parable of the fig tree generation. With Jerusalem being the fig tree.

1967 + 70 years for a generation = 2037 minus the 7 years of Ezekiel 39:9, Daniel 9:27 = 2030.

Gog/Magog not later than the end of 2030.

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And may shaping up right now with the Israel-Iran conflict intensifying. Will also have to watch the Ukraine-Russia conflict to see if Russia starts disengaging and starts brings it troops back to Russia... an additional signal because of what is in Ezekiel 38:3-4.

In Ezekiel 38:3-4, the verses say that God will put hooks in Gog's jaws and turn them back and bring them forth to be part of an attack on Israel.

So from those verses, it appears that Gog's army must be heading in a direction north, just before being dragged south into the conflict that is building between Iran (Persia, in verse 5) and Israel.

 

[Jay Ross]

My math is based upon the parable of the fig tree generation. With Jerusalem being the fig tree.

1967 + 70 years for a generation = 2037 minus the 7 years of Ezekiel 39:9, Daniel 9:27 = 2030.

Gog/Magog not later than the end of 2030.

Douggg, your supposition and conclusions are all wrong. The Fig Tree Prophecy is all contained in only Matt 24:32. The duration of the Generation mentioned in verse 34 is around 1024 years long and in this period, we will see all that Christ spoke about will happen during the seventh age from the time of Israel's redemption until the Final judgement of the nations.

The End Time Prophecies are very specific, and the Gog/Magog events begin to take place after Satan, the Judged heavenly Hosts and the Judged Kings of the earth are released from the Bottomless pit after it is unlocked 1,000 years after it was slammed shut and locked after the gathering of the kings of the earth to be Judged for their part in the trampling of God's earthly hosts for 2,300 years. The historical record confirms this understanding as Israel has been trampled and scattered to the four corners of the earth since 70 AD, after the Temple was destroyed by the Roman Empire.

And may shaping up right now with the Israel-Iran conflict intensifying. Will also have to watch the Ukraine-Russia conflict to see if Russia starts disengaging and starts brings it troops back to Russia... an additional signal because of what is in Ezekiel 38:3-4.

In Ezekiel 38:3-4, the verses say that God will put hooks in Gog's jaws and turn them back and bring them forth to be part of an attack on Israel.

So from those verses, it appears that Gog's army must be heading in a direction north, just before being dragged south into the conflict that is building between Iran (Persia, in verse 5) and Israel.

It sees that you have not meditated fully on what is being prophesied in Ezekiel and you have ring fenced Ezekiel 38 and isolated this chapter from what is also prophesied in out chapters of the Book of Ezekiel. For this reason, I can comfortably claim that your theory is pure fiction and bears not resemblance with what Ezekiel wrote in other parts of his prophetic book.


Goodbye

 

[Douggg]

. The duration of the Generation mentioned in verse 34 is around 1024 years long and in this period

Psalms 90:10 indicates a generation as three score and ten - i.e. 70 years. btw, King David died at 70 years old.

 

[Jay Ross]

Psalms 90:10 indicates a generation as three score and ten - i.e. 70 years. btw, King David died at 70 years old.

But this has nothing to do with Matt 24:32. The Greek word Genea also has been translated as an "age," which is defined as a long period of time and is equivalent to the time-period for a "Day of the Lord" and in 2 Peter 3:8 and Ps 90:4 we are told that a Day of the Lord is like a 1,000-years for mankind.

You are wrongly forcing an understanding of a "descendant generation" upon the Greek word "Genea"

below is a list of verses when the Greek Root Word is embedded within 9 Greek words:-


Now looking at the first 4 reference to Genea they do not speak of a descendant generation as you are suggesting but rather they are referring to an indeterminate time period or age/generation where the people that Jesus was speaking to were either adulterous or perverse and that this characteristic was common to a number of descendant generations such that to be consistent Mar 24:34 is not referring to a descendant generation as you are insisting on in your understanding.

Matt 12:39: - 39 He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.

Matt 16:4: - 4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah." And He left them and departed.

Matt 17:17: - 17 Then Jesus answered and said, "O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? How long shall I bear with you? Bring him here to Me."

Matt 24:34: - 34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.

Goodbye

 

[Douggg]

But this has nothing to do with Matt 24:32. The Greek word Genea also has been translated as an "age," which is defined as a long period of time and is equivalent to the time-period for a "Day of the Lord" and in 2 Peter 3:8 and Ps 90:4 we are told that a Day of the Lord is like a 1,000-years for mankind.

Jay, Matthew 24:32 is not talking about an age... i.e. a long period of time, such as the stone age, the bronze age, - but a generation of humans, and their expected life span before passing away. Jesus's return will be in the time of the end, in the latter days, latter years, as will Ezekiel 38-39, the Gog/Magog event.

 

[Jay Ross]

Jay, Matthew 24:32 is not talking about an age... i.e. a long period of time, such as the stone age, the bronze age, - but a generation of humans, and their expected life span before passing away. Jesus's return will be in the time of the end, in the latter days, latter years, as will Ezekiel 38-39, the Gog/Magog event.

But Matt 24:32 does refer to the Summer Season which is also referenced in Daniel 7:12 where it tells us that the beasts' dominion was taken away from them and their lives will be prolonged for a season and a time. There is no reference to a descendant generation as you are suggesting which is found two verses later in verse 34. We know that the season mentioned in Daniel 7:12 will have a duration of 1,000 years and the time period will be around 24 years in duration.

Your understanding is based on a number of assumptions that you have to make to make your understanding work.

In my understanding I have no assumptions that I need to make for the prophecy of Matt 24:32 to make logical sense.

 

[Douggg]

But Matt 24:32 does refer to the Summer Season which is also referenced in Daniel 7:12 where it tells us that the beasts' dominion was taken away from them and their lives will be prolonged for a season and a time.

Jay, Daniel 7:12 does not say summer season. Does not say spring, either. There is no connection between Matthew 24:32 and Daniel 7:12.

Matthew 24:32 is a simile for Matthew 24:33 for talking about Jesus's Second Coming being near.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Whenever you read the words "like" or "as" in making a comparison - a simile is being made.


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I got this off the internet....

The main differences between metaphor and simile are

• Simile: Compares two things using the words "like" or "as" (e.g., "Her smile is as bright as sunshine").
• Metaphor: Compares two things directly, stating that one thing "is" another (e.g., "Her smile is sunshine").

 

[Jack]

Something DRASTIC must happen to turn all the world against Israel! Nukes maybe?

Zechariah 14:1-4
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; ...
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Sigh…

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Douggg, your supposition and conclusions are all wrong. The Fig Tree Prophecy is all contained in only Matt 24:32. The duration of the Generation mentioned in verse 34 is around 1024 years long and in this period, we will see all that Christ spoke about will happen during the seventh age from the time of Israel's redemption until the Final judgement of the nations.

An 1024 year long generation? LOL. And I thought Doug's claim that it's 70 years long was ridiculous. But, this takes it to another level. You guys really need to ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7) instead of just coming up with nonsense in your imaginations.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Sigh...

The only thing I agree with in this entire thread.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Jay, Matthew 24:32 is not talking about an age... i.e. a long period of time, such as the stone age, the bronze age, - but a generation of humans, and their expected life span before passing away. Jesus's return will be in the time of the end, in the latter days, latter years, as will Ezekiel 38-39, the Gog/Magog event.

This is a classic case of the blind leading the blind. The word "generation" never refers to the human life span. Your dishonest treatment of scripture is disgusting. You even will resort to creating your own definitions for words to make it say what you want it to say, which is just pathetic.

 

[Jay Ross]

Jay, Daniel 7:12 does not say summer season. Does not say spring, either. There is no connection between Matthew 24:32 and Daniel 7:12.

Matthew 24:32 is a simile for Matthew 24:33 for talking about Jesus's Second Coming being near.

32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Whenever you read the words "like" or "as" in making a comparison - a simile is being made.

Douggg. In verse 32, it speaks of summer and summer cannot be dissected from the season which is the Summer season. In Daniel 7:12 it speaks of a season and a time, two very distinct time periods. The season lasts for 1,000 years as we are told in Rev 20:1-3 that Satan, and the heavenly host beasts, were all imprisoned for 1,000 solar years while the "time" is only 24 years in duration based on my understanding.

Verse Matt 24:33, speaks of all the events that will take place from the time of Armageddon until the time of the GWTR judgement, which is, in my understanding, a period of some 1,024 solar years.

Therefore Matt 24:34 is speaking about a period of time which is also 1,024 years in duration when all that Christ spoke about will be fulfilled. So, when Christ was referring to "this generation", he was not referencing a "descendant generation" as you are implying in your posts.

Your understanding does not add up.

 

[Jay Ross]

An 1024 year long generation? LOL. And I thought Doug's claim that it's 70 years long was ridiculous. But, this takes it to another level. You guys really need to ask God for wisdom (James 1:5-7) instead of just coming up with nonsense in your imaginations.

The words "generation" and "age" are interchangeable. I am referring to the length of a "Generation/age" not to a descendant generation which Douggg is trying to drive home.