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  1. Athanasius377

    Easter Celebrations are Worship of the Sun

    Reminds me of these:
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    Validity of Scripture, the Apocrypha versus the King James

    The issue of the Apocrypha is a bit more complicated that just the fact that it was printed as an OT appendix in the KJV. There are currently two basic versions of the OT. The Hebrew version, or the Masoretic text (MT), that was standardized and added vowel pointing by the Masorites in the...
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    What Is The Difference Between Liberal, Conservative and Fundamentalist Christians?

    Good discussion. I think the best way to describe the positions is how the three groups view and handle scripture. -Liberal: Scripture contains the word of God. -Conservative (or orthodox): Scripture is the word of God. -Fundamentalist: Scripture is the word of God. Fundamentalism is a...
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    Biblical Authority

    I would agree in principal. The ECF are a wealth of information. I will take another approach as someone who is a student of history. I think you are going to find that the ECF's will hold differing views on just about everything except perhaps baptismal regeneration and communion in both...
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    Biblical Authority

    Opinions as opposed to doctrine? The first thing I would note is there is a ranking from most important to least important: dogmas, doctrines and opinions. If you want to know if an opinion is correct then consult the scriptures first. If it is not clear either by direct wording in scripture...
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    Biblical Authority

    I was reading on my phone so I probably missed the context. It was not intentional. The short answer is yes. Allow me to clarify: I am not supporting the mistaken notion that some have that by saying a prayer that you checked a box and are good to go. Rather, that God chose us before the...
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    Biblical Authority

    The first statement is true. That is called sola Scriptura meaning there is no higher authority than the God breathed scripture. That is not to say that the church doesn’t have authority, as it certainly does. That is not to say that tradition is not an authority as the Lutheran reformer Martin...
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    Biblical Authority

    All of this is true. I was focusing on the distinction between the Masoratic vs the LXX that often shows up in catholic apologetics. I have yet to have anyone mention the BHS even though it is the underlying OT text of most modern bibles. The New American Bible (NAB) is a specifically...
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    Biblical Authority

    @Augustin56 , this is simply false. First. I would argue that Jesus himself gave the extent of the OT in Luke 11: Therefore also the Wisdom of God said, ‘I will send them prophets and apostles, some of whom they will kill and persecute,’ so that the blood of all the prophets, shed from the...
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    Oops, the Deacon's Son is Gay

    Lol, So the problem is BDAG, ok. Let's look at other lexical sources: μαλακός, -ή, -όν, soft; soft to the touch: ἱμάτια, Mt. 11:8 R G L br.; Lk. 7:25, (ἱματίων πολυτελῶν κ. μαλακῶν, Artem. oneir. 1, 78; ἐσθής, Hom. Od. 23, 290; Artem. oneir. 2, 3; χιτών, Hom. Il. 2, 42); and simply τὰ...
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    Oops, the Deacon's Son is Gay

    Are you really trying to tell me these two men are not having sex? lol. So in other words you have no response and now you are rationalizing sin. I even gave you the Greek which I note you ignored because it simply does not work in your favor. Instead of homosexual the translators could...
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    Oops, the Deacon's Son is Gay

    Lets examine this closer: The ESV reads: 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor...
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    There is only one true church

    I was criticizing the Romish doctrine of the Mass which is according to Trent: This being the case, it must be taught without any hesitation that, as the holy council [of Trent] has also explained, the sacred and holy sacrifice of the Mass is not a sacrifice of praise and thanksgiving only, or...
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    There is only one true church

    While I disagree with you on the formation of the canon, at least we are having an intramural debate. Auntie Jane is not part of the discussion as she is not playing the sport. Add to that we cannot debate the essentials to lay the foundation for the debate. In other words, you are wasting...
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    There is only one true church

    Again, I will ask you what was Constantine commissioning in 331AD when he ordered the production of 50 bibles if he didn’t know what their content was? Or why the great uncial texts that was produced prior to the councils at the end of the 4th century had most of the canonical NT but had just a...
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    There is only one true church

    A couple of things. First, no one is arguing that there was a single text as in a modern printed bible that was circulated in the ancient world. The ancients would have had collections of scriptures, say Paul's epistles or a collection of the gospels or some variation there of. Second...
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    There is only one true church

    What I mean by the doctrine of the Mass is that it is a propitiatory sacrifice made by a priest (or re-presented) of God the Son to God the Father. Yes, I agree that the liturgy is taking shape but the sacrifice that is being offered is one of praise and thanksgiving and not a propitiatory...
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    There is only one true church

    That's not how it happened, lol. That sounds so good but its not true. The early Christians by the mid to late second century already knew by far and large what constituted the NT. There were some books whose authenticity was never in doubt, such as the four Gospels, Paul's letters, 1 Peter...
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    There is only one true church

    The Scriptures were in use long before early regional councils began to recognize what made up the canon. The earliest christians would have used the Greek translation of the OT, the Septuagint (LXX) while the NT was being written and then circulated. There is a workable NT canon by the mid...
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    What is the purpose of infant baptism?

    Of course I reject to idea of development of doctrine. I hold to the Faith once delivered to the Saints, Jude 3. I’m not the one demanding one hold to nonsense doctrines. Either Rome is the church standing in the mist of time or she is something else. You can’t have it both ways. And that...