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That is not the point. The point is that Rome in the sixteenth century and prior up until the nineteenth century was arguing that her peculiar doctrines had no basis in scripture nor did they need to have said basis because they came from sacred tradition. For those that do not know Rome...

And that my friend, is the abandonment of the historical field of battle because that is exactly what the reformers were saying in the sixteenth century. It is not what Romish apologists were saying even 200 years ago. This is Newman's historical revisionism. And it isn't what the Rome was...

I find this argument to be absurd on its face. Andrew and an unknown disciple, (likey John the beloved disciple) were followers of John the Baptist. The left John to follow Jesus. So let make sure I understand your argument. Are you are stating that these two disciples of John THE BAPTIST...

Yes, I agree. It is also possible that the church in Corinth was simply unable to resolve their controversy themselves and looked for outside help, perhaps Clement as I see Clement the author of the epistle and Clement in Philippians and a friend of Paul. Which would make sense as Paul founded...

I would agree with the thrust of your argument inso far that the Corinthian church looked to Rome for guidance. Yet the whole tenor of the letter is a persuasive form of the ancient world whose form escapes me at the moment. The problem I see with the Romish argument is that there was an...

And as a reply to our JW friends , I leave you this. A little satire in good fun. Enjoy:

This. I think Redfan is touching on the fact that there isn’t a clear deference to the sole bishop of Rome in the aforementioned letters. Or in 1st Clement as Clement seems to refer to a plurality of bishops and not just a monarchical bishop. I think one can make a coherent case on Peterine...

Yes, I have read all these arguments before and they are wanting. Rome knows the apocrypha is inferior that's why the call them deutero-canonical. Anyone who has read the books know they are inferior if for nothing else because they contain historical errors that are so egregious that it...

This is false. The rabbis at Jabneh or Jamnia never discussed the apocrypha. As Roger Beckwith Observes: a) The term ‘synod’ or ‘council’ is inappropriate. The academy at Jamnia, established by Rabbi Johanan ben Zakkai shortly before the fall of Jerusalem in ad 70, was both a college and a...

This statement stems from Rome's deficient anthropology specifically how it relates to the doctrine of original sin. Even a child who does not reach the age of reason, about seven in the Roman system, can and does sin. Sin is in every child's nature. The only sinless one is Jesus. This is...

I don't disagree at all. Where I was taking exception was trying to define the why not the what. I have a ridiculous number of commentaries and ALL of them turn themselves inside out trying to define the why in John 20:17. At the end of the day I am happy letting the text stand as is and like...

I have to disagree with the exegesis because if what you say is true regrading John 20:17, then what do you do with do you do with Matt 28:9? 28 Now after the Sabbath, toward the dawn of the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the tomb. 2 And behold, there was...

Have you ever noticed that when someone coverts to Rome they are always talking about "the church" while when someone is born again they are always talking about Jesus. Just an observation.

Yes I did but the word was also used in works outside the NT so the definition is pretty concrete.

I think Bart knows about the physical origins of the Bible but rejects the divine orgins of the Bible. Also, be aware that Bart writes books for a popular audience that probably won't challenge him and writes other works for a more academic audience. He tends to be far more nuanced and careful...

I would have preferred "God Breathed" as 2 Tim 3:16 states in the ESV but "inspired" is the older english form of the same Greek word θεόπνευστος, or Theopneustos.

I would also mention that New Advent, while a Romish run site does put on its site the classic Schaff series' Ante and Post Nicene Fathers. Its a wealth of information from the Early Church Fathers though be aware there may be more than one recension on a given work and the website owners will...

The issue of the Canon is pretty fascinating history. Some of the books I have found helpful are: -The Old Testament Canon of the New Testament Church and Its Background in Early Judaism by Roger Beckwith -The Canon of Scripture by F.F. Bruce -The Question of Canon and Canon Revisited by...

So in other words you are one of the types, that shall I say, grow, roll and smoke their own theology? Good to know. I'll just put you on ignore. Cheers!

Not so fast. I take issue with the phrase, "Mother of God". The phrase is completely orthodox and its origin has to do with the two natures of Christ. Meaning Jesus Christ is both fully God and fully man in one person (hypostasis) human and divine and not some sort of weird hybrid or two...