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If you read the OP and following posts, can you make a synopsis of what his point is? I'm not going to read the book.

Then where did David get the idea? I bet there was.

Where did they sing all of King David's songs?

Psalms 47 Oh, clap your hands, all you peoples! Shout to God with the voice of triumph! 2 For the Lord Most High is awesome; He is a great King over all the earth. This psalms was made into a song we used to sing at church. And, yes, we clapped our hands.

What are you saying? It sounds like you are saying Jesus' sacrifice was for His own sins to be saved first, then for ours.

That was first written to the Jews under the law who had to keep the law with their sin nature. They couldn't do it. That is WHY Jesus came to take sin out of our nature so that we can be righteous and children of God, not sinners. 1 John 3:5-9 Paul is using that verse as part of his teaching on...

The desire to sin is the effect that Satan puts on mankind ever since Adam sinned, and the dominion God gave Adam over the earth, Adam inadvertently gave to Satan. That is why according to Romans 3, all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. It is for THIS reason Jesus came to earth to...

Romans 8:23 isn't about sin. It is about a dying body. Even a sinless born again of the Spirit before coming to Christ was a sinner. 1 John 1:8

Our body doesn't control our nature, our nature controls our body. It was our nature that sin was taken out of, and our body will be obedient to new impulses that are righteous. Remember. the devil wants you to talk yourself into the opposite of what Jesus did in you. Jesus took away your sin...

The laws of God are not something you just memorize; they must be written on your heart by God supernaturally when you repent, are cleansed, and the Holy Spirit then can indwell you. Instead of having a sin nature in opposition to God's laws, you now have been given a new nature and the laws are...

Proverbs 23:7 "For as a man thinks in his heart, so is he. There are many false teachers in the world, mostly those who follow the "T" in TULIP who almost wear "SINNER" as a badge of honor, quoting, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and 1 John 1:8 if you say you are...

Most of the Church has taken the path that scratches their itching ears. We must be a Philadelphian Christian to be a true Christian, but few have found it. 13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14...

Didn't you read the verse? It is confirmed by the Spirit. We must have the indwelling Spirit or we don't belong to Christ. I've had the Spirit since 1977, but kept the commandments all my life till then when I wasn't saved. I know the difference.

Lukewarm Christians do. Its more a family thing. They KNOW ABOUT Jesus, but they haven't learned they must be Jesus' servant, and Jesus their Lord! They need to love Jesus and one another and keep his commandments in order to ABIDE IN CHRIST. 1 John 3:24. They probably haven't even heard that...

We are talking about the delutional.

The problem is most people are still normal human beings with the same sin nature they've always had. Some of them go to church thinking Jesus will be their ticket into heaven and his blood will cover the sins they have no power to stop committing. They are the ones who are delusional. But their...

Or actually believing Jesus! You'll have more people in your pews though.

1 John 3:4-9 - sinlessness from commandments - righteousness, 2 Peter 1:2-11 - fruit of the Spirit all mature, will not stumble - Perfection/Holiness

That was true of all mankind since Adam sinned. But that influence from Satan in our nature is why Jesus came - to take it away, and destroy the works of Satan. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He...

There are two states: Revelation 22:11. Righteousness and Holiness. They are not mature at the same time. Righteousness is Sinlessness (from sins unto death) Holiness is Perfection (from sins not unto death) Sinlessness is when Jesus writes all the law on our hearts and conscience and gives us...