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Actually in the book of the law. god did require it. If they were to recieve blessings as his children. You’re right, he did not require it for salvation. But your in error saying he did not require it from them as a people. It was part of his covenant with them And? Your tryign to insert...

1. There is no such things as faith without works. A dead faith is lifeless. It is not faith at all. A lifeless faith can not saved, hence it will never work. So your saying WORKS WITH FAITH SAVES? Well does this then not make it a works based salvation? are you not working to earn your...

please explain so what about the Bible. Do you trust the Bible? I know you say their are contradictions, is this why you go to creeds?) Does it though? Is not a true christian more than just that? the three groups that you said support it. Are they all true christians? You can not just read...

When it comes to world histroy. I have to trust the people who wrote history. But your probably right, I can nto know for sure when it comes to Christianity, I trust what is in the inspired word. I do not trust anything outside of the word. i can use it, study it, see if it lines up with...

I trust what is written in Matthe through revelations. To me that is church history I do not trust anything written after this. No one should You were there? You know this to be a fact. Or you believe it because someone who claims to be a church father told you this? and even if he was. What...

Yes, But God still demanded sacrifice according to the law so later when he said he hated them did he contradict himself. Like you seem to me insinuating, or was their a reason he hated them (because of their sin Of rejecting him and following false gods)

If your doing work to save yourself is this not a works based righteousness? and this does differ than works which are a result of your salvation.. can you at least agree there are differences?

this difference is what you trust. A christian is someone who follows jesus, that is actually what the word means Now is every Christian a child of God. Thats where the difference comes in. What makes me a christian? Or a true christian? to be a christian is just to claim you follow christ...

Thats why going to history is so dangerous. 1. it assumes what we have in writing today concerning history was based on facts. 2. it assumes that what we have in writting was actually when the true early church believed. thats far to many assumptions to me. The jews, when they went after...

Ok. What do you consider righteousness to be? What is that mark. How good is good enough. Why will you not answer? I could care less about that. I did not ask about this. I asked about the mark of God which states we all have sinned. What is that mark? Which is what? can you say it. And how...

But paul spoke present tense. He said he at the moment of writing struggled between the flesh and spirit John did the same thing, If we say if we say we (right here and right now) have no sin, we are decieved Are you decieved?

The NT should be the standard. Not what men write correct? I disagree that I have to agree with that in order to be called a christian. It does not make me a christian because I agree with some creed, thats my point of contention Why should we hold this above the Bible? again, I disagree...

Did he reject the sacrifices during their period of blessing under King David? They were not always in sin.. But yes, they did rebel.

We are not arguing who. We are discussing when I gave you the context and time period of when Amos wrote and what he was writting about.

Amos 1: 1 The words of Amos, who was among the sheepbreeders of Tekoa, which he saw concerning Israel in the days of Uzziah king of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Israel, two years before the earthquake. Amos 5: Hear this word which I take up against you, a...

Bingo.. context resolved the appearance of a contradiction

There is no contradiction what we can can conclude is that due to the extreme sin of Israel and their rejection. God did not recieve their sacrifices as payment for sin. Also remember the book of hebrews, the blood of bulls and goats could never take away sin, that is why jesus came to die...

See what I mean what is the context of Amos. Why did God reject their sacrifices. Was it not because of their sin. once again, No contradiction at all only a perceived contradiction which can be immediately responded just by looking at the context.

It withered immdiately in chapter 11. There is no response that the fig tree withered immediately or not. So we can not get front he text whether it did. Or even that they saw it (it said they heard him say it, it does nto see they saw it) Matt 21 is another account of what happened. Only this...

Then by defenition the Bible can not be trusted. And the Bible can not do what God said it would do. if I believed this, i would find another religion. I am being honest. Why follow a God who can not even get his word correct without being full of mistakes