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I backed it up with facts, not bluster.

The ontological argument of Anselm, and the Tennis Shoe argument of Sproul.

I bet He knows the BEST knock knock jokes :)

When I was confronted with the irrefutable logical conclusion there MUST be a "god" (some one wholey other than our universe) it was an easy course to find the claims of the Bible and their basic truthfulness.

Unfortunately that is the debate level of the anti-cig crowd. Make a strawman out of thin air and then burst into histrionics against it.

I like!

No... a foursome is the standard group of 4 in a golf match. Nothing to do with sexual overtones or the like. God made humor along with sobriety. Why is it some of the most miserable and humorless people claim to be Christians? In the immortal words of my favorite philosopher, "Don't take life...

So in the foursome your back is always turned? :rolleyes: Anyway, back to the topic, kaotic is correct. Why is the plain and simple always so just out of the grasp of those who want to "feel" the experience but have nearly zero interest in knowing if that experience is valid?

Wow, I did not know you are in possession of the entire secret consul of God... tell me, have you met Him? Do you guys play golf on Thursdays?

He has no understanding of the words consequent and obsequent when he tried to tinkery-toy scripture into saying things it just does not say.

Amen. Unless I am convinced by Scripture and by plain reason and not by others experience or felt needs, my conscience is captive to the word of God. To go against conscience is neither right nor safe. I cannot and I will not relent in this position. Here I stand. I can do no other.

Witness, you are now my new favorite dallience (sorry aspen, but you've been making far too much sense lately to keep your crown, we will still disagree but I respect the thoughtfulness you've made come across in your comments). Besides, witness is so full of hilarity I can't pass them up ;)

Doctrine I.e. the word of God trumps experience. Kaotic is correct in their sound and sober use of scripture.

Just answering your questions. I wasn't looking for, or even interested in, your opinion of me or my theology. I don't recall you being promoted from member of the Body of Christ to judge of the Body of Christ. I must have missed that memo...

Rather than read the explanation you can watch it... http://www.wimp.com/montyhall/

This is a good book to read. http://blogs.blueletterbible.org/blb/2012/10/04/recommended-reading-god-has-a-wonderful-plan-for-your-life-the-myth-of-the-modern-message/

Cigarettes themselves aren't bad, and perhaps even beneficial. The additives to keep the cigarette lit, the fillers, and other components aren't the greatest but the nicotine itself is proving to be a benefit to people even though the delivery system is less than ideal...

Respiration is part of the autonomic nervous system, so, even though we don't have to actively command our chest to move the muscles to inhale and exhale, or consciously keep track of the oxygen levels in our blood stream, we still breathe as part of our being. As far as blaming God on our need...

No such thing as "too hot" for me :) But thanks for the tip, everyone else always cries when they eat my chili...

No, < just wants it, doesn't need it. < can quit having the last word anytime < wants to. But < just doesn't want to. Oh, and ^ is cool too.