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I believe John is using Rev 20 to show a distinction and what happens to those who have been born again, and those who live and die in unbelief. There are some who have been martyred for their faith whom John sees alive in heaven. But there are also those who have died in unbelief, who shall...

There is no physical resurrection from the graves until the hour coming when the last trumpet sounds. Those who have done good will be physically resurrected to life again, and those who have done evil resurrected for damnation.

I don't necessarily disagree! But I feel there is less confusion, at least for me, to understand the first resurrection is of Christ alone. Those who are born again share in Christ's resurrection (1st) life through His Spirit, but we are not bodily resurrected as Christ was until the hour...

Or they attempt to change the subject!

I don't know if he's being deliberately obtuse, or really does not understand???

You're confused because you don't know what or WHO the first resurrection is! For the umpteenth time the first resurrection is not physical saints being resurrected from the dead. The first resurrection IS THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST THAT MAN MUST HAVE PART IN BEFORE THEY DIE TO OVERCOME THE...

They haven't been physically resurrected yet! None who have died shall be physically resurrected until the hour coming when the last trumpet sounds. Then ALL who are in the graves shall come out, those who have done good resurrected to life, and those who have done evil resurrected to damnation.

Paul writes there is a natural body, and a spiritual body. The natural body he writes is of the earth and like Adam. That which is spiritual is like Christ and of heaven, a celestial/spiritual body. Just as in physical life mankind bears the image of the earthy, Adam, so too after death...

Yes, absolutely! They were martyred for their faith during this time John writes a thousand years. They weren't all martyred at the same time so they might all live and reign with Christ for exactly ONE thousand years. They are all at various times throughout this time symbolized 'a/the'...

I agree! Saints of Old who died in faith waiting and looking for the promised Messiah to come have indeed arisen from the graves AFTER the RESURRECTION of Christ. The verse tells us only that those who slept arose, it does not say they were bodily resurrected from the graves. Matthew...

But where does John say the first resurrection is a physical resurrection of saints? You're trying to read your preconceived doctrine into the text. There is only ONE "first resurrection" of the physically dead, and that is the resurrection of Christ ALONE.

Take away the numbered verses to read and understand what John is saying. When John writes "This is the first resurrection" he is NOT speaking of the "rest of the dead" that will not live again until the thousand years have ended. The first resurrection is of those who are called holy and...

There will be only one physical resurrection in the hour that is coming when the last trumpet sounds. That is NOT the 'first resurrection' mankind MUST have part in before they die for them to overcome the second death. In the passage below John writes of the bodily resurrection that shall...

The first physical resurrection is already a reality. It's the bodily resurrection of Christ from the dead. Acts 26:23 (KJV) That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. Revelation 1:5...

Exactly, when man is born again of the Spirit of Christ, he/she is a new creature. That is to be spiritually quickened (made alive) in Christ. The Spirit of Christ coming in us is not being resurrected from physical death. It is to have part in the resurrection life of Christ through His...

We're pretty close in agreement here. According to the accounting from creation God says, He created man from the dust of the earth (physical form) breathed into him the breath of life (spirit) and he became a living soul. Every living breathing creature upon the earth is a living soul...

Was Paul speaking to physically DEAD bodies when he spoke these things? Of course not! So, what 'body' was Paul referring to that was DEAD because of sin? When read in context, we understand what Paul means when he says, "the body is dead because of sin". He is speaking of the one who...

Why would a human body that already possesses life need to be quickened (made alive)? Paul is not addressing corpses! It is our spirit that needs to be born again (made alive; quickened), and this happens through the power of the Holy Spirit within us the moment we believe.

If we already have immortal and incorruptible physical body when we took part in the first resurrection, then our physical body could NEVER die. When we are born again of Christ's Spirit we are made spiritually alive, not physically immortal. Our spirit then, having the Holy Spirit within is...

I'm in complete agreement with what you've written. The only thing I would add is that I believe our PHYSICAL body (if we have already died when the last trumpet sounds) will be physically resurrected immortal & incorruptible and it will be made alive through the eternal spirit that returns...