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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Having endeavored himself through much time and study of the ECF, I fully understand why WPM would be adamant about setting straight the record regarding the early church fathers. I'm encouraged to see you have edited your OP after learning what you had posted does not align with what ECF's...
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I'm doing very well David, thank you for asking. It sounds like you are doing better these days as well. I hope your health issues have been fully resolved.
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    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    How do these verses prove Satan has power over the saints of Christ? Isn't it God that has power of life and death? Death of our physical body cannot harm the soul that ascends to heaven the spiritual body of Christ there when our body breathes its last. That doesn't sound to me like Satan...
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    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    Greetings to you as well Redd, Wouldn't disagree with most of what you've said, except to say 'know' instead of physical sight 'seeing'. I don't agree with the translations quoting Christ as telling the Pharisees that He is the kingdom of God that is in their midst. If that was what He...
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Exactly! But it seems Premillennialists can't help themselves! Can't really blame them (lol) after all they get no help from the Scriptures!
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Had to laugh! I assumed Rich's spelling! Thanks for the laugh
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Yes, it is an extensive study! Far easier to simply repeat what you have learned, rather been taught from others, who themselves probably also found it too exhausting to study for themselves, so the error continues to be perpetuated with only few who take the time to learn from the writings of...
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Here's a pretty good site in case if you're interested. http://www.romans45.org/hall.htm
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Sorry Rich, but I see this as a cop-out! WPM has quoted verbatim extensively from the ECF many times in the forums, citing references from which to prove. You should also be able to cite your sources so all reading might have something besides 'thus sayeth Rich."
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    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    Aren't you confusing the external church as a physical representation of the Kingdom of God on earth, with the ETERNAL Church as, not the representation, but that is the Kingdom of God within you? A Kingdom that cannot be physically observed? Sin abounds in the church that is a mere...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Using the phrase "spiritual life" is reference to being made spiritually alive through the Spirit of Christ within believers. Because Scripture tells us we were dead in trespasses and sins before being quickened (made alive) through the Holy Spirit when we were born again, or from above. The...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    There is no contradiction when we realize that Scripture often uses Israel to define faithful saints from both the Old Covenant Israel and the New Covenant Church. Romans 9:27-33 (KJV) Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Israel of Old, those wandering in the wilderness are the church of Old, that was led by Moses. Acts 7:37-38 (KJV) This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear. This is he, that...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Of course, unbelieving Jews believe it hasn't! They are still waiting for the promised Messiah to come! It's kind of like using the writings of the Jewish historian, Josephus to prove that which applies to Christ. While Josephus can shed much light on Jewish history, he lived and died never...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    How do you reconcile saving all Israel (ethnic Jews) with Romans 9 where Paul clearly says otherwise (only the remnant shall be saved)! Because only Israel of faith shall be saved. Salvation is not about ethnicity, all Israel is saved, according to Paul, when the fullness of Gentiles are grafted...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Are you really unaware that the Gospel of Jesus Christ; the message about Him preached on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2) epitomizes the New Covenant in His blood?
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    Yes, it's clear how desperately dispensationalists try to prove what the prophets of Old have written without learning anything at all (it would seem) from the New Testament of fulfillment of what they prophesied concerning the Messiah who was to come.