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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Do you believe I am God? Oh I forgot, you don't even believe Jesus is God! Unless God the Holy Spirit in believers guides you to discern His Word, no man is able to do that which only God the Holy Spirit can! That is give you eyes to see and ears to hear beyond your physical capabilities!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Meaningful dialog comes only from faithful saints being led by the Spirit of truth! You can't prove what you allege from the Scripture because the Spirit of Christ is not guiding you, you are being led by doctrines from the imagination of man.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I cannot find spiritual discernment in anything you post! But a vivid, wild imagination can certainly be gleaned from your replies.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Israel did not exist in the days of Abraham. Yes, God Himself preached the Gospel to Abraham, a non-Jew and Abraham became the father of faithful saints whether they are Jew or Gentile. It was through this man who believed God that the nation of Israel would come, and through Israel the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I support what I allege from the Word of God. If you would do the same, you just might learn something. The problem with your method or style of study is that you are forever taking verses out of context to prove what you think, wish, or perhaps hope is true, but unfortunately you're never...
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    That only makes sense from the words of Zacharias if the millennial period of time began with the birth of John, born to prepare the way for the advent of Christ, whose name would be declared in the spirit of Elijah. Zacharias speaks as though the prophecy he long awaited to be fulfilled began...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You read Mt Zion and without seeking to understand where Mt Zion is, you assume it's Mt Zion on earth. The author of Hebrews doesn't believe that Mt Zion is of the earth. In fact, he tells us saints have NOT come to the earthly mount of Old but to Mount Zion, and unto the city of the living...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How could the Gentiles in unbelief know to call upon the Lord to be saved? Until the Gospel of Christ was sent unto them, they could not believe in whom they did not know. They learned of Christ through His Gospel preached unto them. Before the advent of Christ only Israel had heard of the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I hear what you're saying, but honestly, I have learned so much from so many in these community forums. I've also learned how far apart so many of us are when it comes to rightly dividing the Word of God. I'm in my happy place when I search the Scriptures. I have thirteen years on you, and if...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I know what you mean about fast moving threads. I logged today about 7:30 and still haven't read all the replies from yesterday to today! Every time I think I've replied adequately, there are more replies! Gotta love these boards huh? I know that Gentiles too came under the hearing of the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, they were Gentile exceptions, why? Because they believed the servant Jonah that God sent to preach to them. They heeded the message proclaimed and believed in God, from the greatest of them to the least of them. When you read the entire accounting, you find not only did Jonah not want to...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes, they entered the millennial Kingdom of God spiritually while still alive on the earth before they died. Because the millennial Kingdom is not one thousand years to come but is TIME that began with the first advent of Christ and shall not end until this particular time shall be no longer...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    We may as well be talking to the wall!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Hypothetical analogy is a good way to define what you imagine! Because clearly you have nothing from the Bible to prove your hypothetical analogy!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You can make all the assumptions you wish, in fact you usually do! While you're busy making assumptions without biblical proof texts, I'll continue to prove what I allege as biblical using the Word of God and not my opinions, or assumptions! It's impossible not to notice how the Amils on this...
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    You have not yet shown that you have properly understood what the prophets foretell concerning the coming of Christ. The Kingdom of God that Christ ushered in is NOT physical, it is a spiritual Kingdom. While looking for a physical fulfillment of the prophets, do you not understand that man...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Brings peace for whom? The whole earth? Love, joy and peace come only to those who are no longer in bondage to fear of death because they have been born again through the Spirit and have everlasting life. Scripture is clear that sin and physical death through sin shall be part of life on this...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The scene depicted cannot be physical, because then it makes zero sense. John is shown a vision of spiritually alive saints in heaven not on earth.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Does physical death hurt or destroy those who by grace through faith have come to mount Sion, the city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem and innumerable company of angels? When we have been born again through Christ's Spirit are we not already spiritually on the holy mountain of God where...