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What I'm asking is in post 24. Basically, it's that simple, we are not saved coming out of the womb. I'll wait to let some others chime in before I go to the next step of the salvation process. Hopefully we can get a few others that agree to move ahead with this discussion.

"Salvation journey thread"

If your describing Grace through Faith i agree. But this thread is about looking at what specifically must happen in-between being a sinner and a saint. You didn't say whether you agreed with post 24, the very start of that process.

Once we establish the point in the salvation journey were that's relevant, sure. Right now I can't even find someone to agree with the state of being were born in. LOL post 24

Were not there yet pearl. Just trying to establish the condition we are in once we are born into this world. Do you agree with post 24?

Hi Ernest, liked some of the understandings you've written about Faith and the application of said Faith. I was hoping we could find some common ground to see how far we could get talking through the salvation process. I'm trying really hard to look at this journey one happening at a time, in...

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I'm looking for an honest discussion.

Ok Cassandra, thanks for an honest reply. I'm hoping Ernest chimes in.

Your misrepresenting what I've said. I'm going to put you on ignore for this thread, sorry EG.

Do you agree with this starting point?

My point is we all start at a place where we are apart of the field Christ has purchased, but at this point, we haven't received the Spirit f Christ yet. Try not to jump ahead.

I will give an opportunity for several people to respond.

Sorry EG, Thats not the question.

At the start of the salvation journey, we all start without the Spirit of Christ sealed in us yet. agree or disagree?

I understand the "Spirit of Christ" and the Holy Spirit to be the same.

The salvation journey is a sort of process. It starts with the life, work and sacrifice Christ did while on earth, This is Grace. His work on Calvary cannot be imitated, added onto, or made better in any way. Salvation is by Grace through Faith. Salvation is by that free unmerited favor...

Hi ETB, I'm going to start a thread and shine a red hot spot light on the things that must happen in the salvation process or journey, and the order in which they must happen. Hope you'll chime in so i can understand you better.

Yes that is the correct way to interpret pisteuo. Not using the Noun "Faith" as you did, but using the verb "Faithe" the word the translators should have had available to translate pisteuo. True NT Faith or the application of said Faith, faithing "is" we faithe into Jesus Christ. No , my...

So you're disagreement isn't with me but the Greek scholars who provided the exact definition in the Vines. And as I explained above, In the English "belief" is a noun, "believe" is the corresponding verb to the noun "belief". THE WORDS BELIEF AND BELIEVE ARE NOT IN THE GREEK VOCABULARY.