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Sorry for the delay in replying. I could not access the forum yesterday or this morning for some reason. I totally agree. So we seem to view law and grace the same way. However, I suspect you do not keep the ten commandments as written, but somehow change the Sabbath command so that you are no...

I answered your last question in post #110. No, I don't have perfect obedience, but I have Yeshua and grace. Yeshua and grace do NOT give me license to break the law constantly simply because Yeshua kept it perfectly. I am expected to obey YHWH's commandments BECAUSE of Yeshua's work of...

I must have missed those posts or my memory is failing. Please cite a post # where someone stated which covenant the Jews are under or when the OC came to an end for them.

What covenant are the Jews under? If not the Mosaic (Old) Covenant, provide a verse stating they are no longer under it.

Hebrews 8:13 - In that he said, A new covenant, he has made the first old. Now that which decays and waxes old is ready to vanish away. This was written after the NC took effect. The OC was ready to vanish away, but hadn't yet.

No verse again? What is a "church covenant"? The law of the OC is Torah. Torah is to be written inwardly under the New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:33). Yes, the two covenants exist at the same time, but not for one individual. An individual believer is only under the NC while unbelieving Jews are...

You didn't provide a verse showing fulfilled means the law ended.

The Greek word translated word "establish" means to make stand", not "honor". Faith makes the law stand. It establishes it firmly as a plumb-line for believers to follow so as not to go astray and sin. Through the law/Torah written inwardly and the indwelling Holy Spirit, we now have the power...

Fulfilled does not mean abolished. Yes, we have died, not the law. Now our righteousness comes though faith and that righteousness is manifested through the fruit of obedience to YHWH's laws. I was referring to imputed righteousness, but both are true. Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved...

That is your ignorance of Scripture and my life talking. I agree. This does not mean Yeshua abolished the law. In other words, "but where breaking the law abounded, grace did abound more exceedingly." Grace does not abolish the law. It goes into action when we break the law. "Not...

Messiah fulfilled it by obeying it all perfectly. Fulfilled does not mean abolish or annulled. Please cite a verse about the supposed annullment.

The Mosaic Law IS the Law of YHWH. It still stands having been established by faith and is to be written on hearts and minds in the New Covenant.

Label it whatever you want. It still results in obeying YHWH's laws which include the 7th day Sabbath, the dietary laws, and the Feast Days.

This verse does not say Yeshua kept the law "in our stead". It says his obedience to the law paves the way for us to be made righteous. We must still obey the law so we do not sin for he said, "Go and sin no more". Yes, the old nature is too weak to obey the law, but the new nature is not as...

I agree that legalism nullifies grace, but obedience to YHWH's laws out of love for Him does NOT nullify grace. It is a fruit of the grace and salvation we received through faith in Yeshua.

I do not "rely" on my law keeping for anything. I simply endeavor to obey because I love my Heavenly Father and my neighbor. Yeshua did not keep the law in our stead. He took its penalty in our stead. We are expected to obey the law so that we do not sin. If you think we do not have to obey the...

Since you judged me as not keeping the law and of sinning, I assumed you do not keep the law either. If you desired to obey YHWH's law, you would not be speaking against me as a law keeper seeing how you would be a law keeper yourself. So since you did speak against my law keeping, I assumed you...

In the verse you cited, they are co heirs with believing Jews as I already stated in post #76.

Yes, your version says "Israel", but the Greek does not.

God's standard of perfect righteousness only applies to a person who is seeking to be justified by the law. My justification/righteousness comes through faith in Messiah Yeshua. Therefore, my failure to keep the law at certain times is not a problem. When I sin, I confess, repent and receive...