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The bible alone is just a book on a table. No one will know otherwise unless someone can preach what it means. Miracles would be necessary.

Wow. Just wow. I'll let thee correct you

Now you understand the purpose of man made tradition. By your tradition there would be Christian shelters housing converts. That would be happening if the person who bore the Savior as a virgin.was that weak in faith

You're all over the place! Why don't you just believe Jesus gave Peter the keys to His Kingdom?

Another man made tradition ..to counter a man made tradition...the places one must go

You are projecting your modern mind onto people of antiquity. Entirely different culture and mindset. All these gymnastics would not go unexplained. All because you insist That the womb that Incarnated God was not Holy.

Oh I misunderstood you the first time I responded. John the beloved and the Virgin Mary might not have faith eneogh for Mary to live with her adult children...That it?

she is better taken care of by family. You place an unnecessary burdens to fit your man made traditions

Jesus told the Apostles ' those who hear you hear me' If it's wrong for me to give the clergy that authority because according to you it belongs to the Word as you see it. You claim authority I give them. Good question

Good distinction. Heavenly vs earthly purposes

Wonder why they couldn't take care of her after Jesus died. Why Mary couldn't just live with her adult children? That would need explaining

That's a claim to authority you don't have. Unless what you believe the Word is and means is what Christ believes and means

What do we call out father if using the word can only refer to God. I don't remember Jesus teaching another word to use for our fa***r

So you would have leadership that don't err or leadership that don't accept correction?

Jesus personally gave Peter the keys to His Kingdom. Jesus didn't personally say that to James did He? Why would you think James has what Jesus gave Peter?

[QUOTE="APAK, post: 1325471, member: 7755"]nowhere in scripture that even suggests that Christ today co-occupies God the Father's throne. The expression for being seated at the right of God, his Father, m Rev. 13-8 The River and the Tree of Life 22 Then he showed me a river of the water of...

Do you think thee is ignorant of those particulars? Engaging in avoidance . Why do you who deny Jesus have to add passive aggressive insults in your posts?

Right after Jesus changed his name gave him the keys I already went over the reason this was happening to Peter. Why Satan was doing this to Peter. It doesn't prove Peter isn't the lead Apostle it's happening to him because he is.

Christ's Church is alone but the bible just a book with out an authentic teacher. The teacher alone .yeah that works. The bible alone is like a family picture album. No one can tell the stories behind the pictures like the family in the pictures. The photo album alone is sad you look around for...

You know it was here once, where did it go? If it's not my church point me where to go. Otherwise there is one game in town. To look up and and claim it's not your Church how can that be, I look around there's only one game in town:D