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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    That's not really an answer to my question. You are dodging the point or issue and just throwing down the hammer of judgment mindlessly. Don't be that guy in the mob with the pitchfork in one hand and a torch in the other. Don't be that cliche character in the movie that is an insult to the...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    However, you have not addressed my points in defense of Conditional Immortality. That is more of a challenging task that I believe you are not capable of doing. Then again, I would like to be proven wrong on this point. So do you accept the challenge?
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Why don't you address the points that really focus on this topic?
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Again, when the apostle John said, "Come Lord Jesus" did Jesus use John like a puppet to say those words, or did the apostle John really say those words?
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Yes, many Jews did believe in Jesus. I do not deny that. But it is also equally true that the Jews as a whole or nation had rejected their Messiah. So most Jews rejected Jesus. This is simply a fact that you cannot ignore.
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    These kinds of comments are not really helpful or constructive to the discussion. Your comment is sort of like saying, "How long have you been beating your wife?" Like this question, your comment is degrading and insulting and does not really get to the truth of this discussion. You need to...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I was on the fence between ECT and Conditional Immortality for a long while. So it was not a quick move or anything. At one point, I considered both as a possibility (ECT and Conditional Immortality) because I could see clear verses or teachings for both. But then one morning, I seen a really...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    All I can say is to pray about it more and seek the Scriptures and keep an open mind. It took me a year or so to truly see that Conditional Immortality was 100% true.
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    First, you have to think that the predominant view in Christianity for hundreds of years is ECT. However, what is always popular is not always true. We know this because Jesus had a problem with the religious authorities (Who were popular) during His time. But please consider that any recent...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Yes, as I said before, Jesus is God. So there is point in repeating something that I already agree with. You need to supply a Scripture verse or passage to lay claim that all words in the Bible are the words of Jesus. So far, you have not really demonstrated this fact. Again, the apostle John...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Yes, Jesus is God. Praise the Lord. I also believe there is a symbiotic relationship between the Living Word (Jesus) and the Communicated Word (like Scripture). I have listed 41 verses that makes this connection. You can check out my write up on that here...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    In Matthew 10:28, Jesus compares the "killing of the body by men" with His comparing how we are to fear Him who can destroy (kill) both body and soul in Gehenna (Gehenna fire). The analogy or parallel Jesus made is destroyed if one inserts ECT into this verse.
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    That's actually John narrating His vision under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit in Revelation 20:10, and this is not Jesus speaking.
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Philemon 1:15 (KJB) ”For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him for ever;” So lets get this straight. Do you believe Onesimus was being received by his master forever or all eternity? What about the words “eternal Judgment” in Hebrews 6:2? Do you believe...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    And you have to ignore and or change the plain reading of these verses in Scripture. The Tree in the Garden (See here). Revelation 21:8 says that the Lake of Fire is the Second Death. The Second Death is related to the First Death. But in ECT this is not the case; They are not really...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    To all: Hell is a real place and the Lake of Fire is a real place. While they are real and literal places, the duration of punishment in these places is not eternal. Isaiah 66:24 shows the destruction of the wicked. Even the devil is said to be destroyed in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28.
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Isaiah describes this event as carcasses or corpses. Isaiah 66:24 “And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.” Isaiah...
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    Actually most Christians believe in ECT. But what is popular is not always true.
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I can say the same for you. But ad hominems really don’t prove your right. Again, deal with my points I made or move on.
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    Why Hell is not a place of eternal conscious torment.

    I can say that you have not read the New Testament, too. But that really does not prove anything. Again, we are back at square one if you refuse to look at the points I made for Conditional Immortality that you are ignoring. So around and around we go.