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  1. Alfredthefifth

    The difference in churches

    theefaith's, bot attitude made me do it. I searched catholic sexual abuse. 5100 cases of priests sexual abuse. 1700 still active under limited or no supervision to prevent more abuses. 500 maybe more that the church doesn't carry any record of disciplinary action for. They get...
  2. Alfredthefifth

    The difference in churches

    In Galatians 2 We see "Those Sent from JERUSALEM, (the high Christian church, with actual disciples taught by Christ) rebuked by Paul for adding Jewish customs to the Gospel. Cephas, was apposed to his face for prior to the coming of certain men from James (then the high priest of THE CHURCH...
  3. Alfredthefifth

    Fed up with American Christian churches

    I from painful experience in a prototypical American Christian Church, want to prove the church be fore I commit. One option is go to church straight from work un washed. Those welcome me aren't going by your sunday appearance. Don't be shy about admitting your failings, a holier-than-thou...
  4. Alfredthefifth

    Entitled Christians

    @Dropship I like it. When my church encouraged my inability to minister I know I missed many opportunities. When my church lived and breathed item #3 I can prove we missed many opportunities. When I read in the Bible about being visited by angels and those angels being in disguise...
  5. Alfredthefifth

    The difference in churches

    @theefaith Spiritual fathers have to care for our souls Yet I have known spiritual fathers who smile at you while, openly and proven to lie through their teeth. But because this is THE CHURCH I can not question it? But we all men here! Men that are subject to work of satan. When the WORDS of...
  6. Alfredthefifth

    Entitled Christians

    In my lifetime I have had a neighbor with two legs that was a one legged begger by profession. I have had neighbors, better off than I was, that when you found them at work it was on a street corner with a sign. I try hard not to judge. I try to have good food in the car to feed these hungry...
  7. Alfredthefifth

    Fed up with American Christian churches

    more twisted words The holy spirit working in it's way caused a beautiful thing to happen. If we tried to invoke the Spirit it would come to nothing. It is in three people being moved directed by the spirit here, that beauty happens. Be skeptical, it is actually good. It questions, it...
  8. Alfredthefifth

    The difference in churches

    @PhilipLink In my journey I was instructed by the the Spirit to step out of being Lutheran. Yes Luther is a teacher I hold dear. Now one of what has become many. I studied Luther's work more and deeper than the Lutheran Church wanted me to. Why, because Luther's teaching was being pushed aside...
  9. Alfredthefifth

    The difference in churches

    @Philip James There are false churches, that I do not argue. But when the nest is destroyed those in the nest scatter. How many Bishops of 500 hundred years ago tried to make themselves something else fearing the retribution of those they hurt by being false? Only God knows! But once false...
  10. Alfredthefifth

    The difference in churches

    Did Bishops protect the priests that sexually abused children? Or is this propaganda also? If the Bishops knowingly protected child abusers, did these child abusers become Bishops also? The Bishops most certainly hid and otherwise protected those priests. Why? And this isn't to be questioned...
  11. Alfredthefifth

    The difference in churches

    So the BISHOP being the source of the false teachings, makes false teachings good teachings? One church body the nepotism is so rife that select heirs are going to be the leaders no matter how morally bankrupt those men are. Even if someone can get past the family guardians of the heir...
  12. Alfredthefifth

    The difference in churches

    @Philip James Luther, Wrote 95 points were the "leaders," men, mankind had drifted not only outside the scope of the, Bible, Gods Word, But that to continue down that road is folly. If everyone cannot use scriptures to test the leaders. Then church is a fools folly, as false teaching goes...
  13. Alfredthefifth

    The difference in churches

    Paul, arguably the man that taught more early Christians than anyone. Taught "Test EVEN me!" Because again The plee "this is what the teachers taught is not going to heard on judgment day!" The word gives ALL the ability to test and discern through the spirit and in the word what is right...
  14. Alfredthefifth

    The difference in churches

    @theefaith This morning after the above Post #68, I had an inspiration. I have a dear friend that was badly hurt by a CHURCH. The last time I spoke with he justified it, as is being done here, "That these are The LEADERS the Elders! I have to listen to those God put over me!" In the case of...
  15. Alfredthefifth

    Fed up with American Christian churches

    In Church this Sunday, two individuals and a group were so perfectly in sync it was scary. The Group, the praise band the chosen three very thoughtful spirit invoking songs. Tied in so well with the visiting Pastors sermon The music director pick of two hymns Backed up the visiting pastor so...
  16. Alfredthefifth

    The difference in churches

    You love to twist words. Luther if anything accepted Christ to the point of being willing to die to get Christ back into the Church. In Augsburg on trial Luther's only defense was on and in the Bible. "Prove me wrong, CONVICT me with this THE WORD OF GOD!" At that point the Church DENIED Luther...
  17. Alfredthefifth

    My problem, personal yes problem with BORN again

    Thank you that have answered Alfredthefifth
  18. Alfredthefifth

    Why OSAS teaches all sins already forgiven

    The way I am starting to see some in this thread is that if a priest out of THE roman catholic CHURCH from 1500 had been time transferred to this year. Would he recognize THE CHURCH. An 80 year old neighbor 50 years ago, "said they have changed THE CHURCH so much my mom would not recognize it!"...
  19. Alfredthefifth

    Bearing Fruit

    @LearningToLetGo The fruit of the Spirit is a Connection to the Holy Spirit. Mankind hears with our ears the Holy Spirit talks to your heart. I will always encourage to read the entire chapter of a book of the Bible. But Psalm 46 verse 10 Be still and know that I am God And Psalm 37 Be...
  20. Alfredthefifth

    Beware of Those Who Try Separate Faith in God vs. His Word

    The most powerful prayers I have said are short and simple. Lord you know, me, my desires, my wants and my needs, show me your will in these matters. In Christ your son Amen. These prayers have been answered in ways that I cannot describe, great blessings and being in a wonderful place. Would...