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    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    The Church in which I participate. As I said St. Paul defines this many times and even Jesus for instance at the end of St. Luke's Gospel or in the Sermon on the Mount, and also Moses in Genesis even. St. Gregory of Nyssa expounds: "It seems to me that by these facts Moses reveals a hidden...
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    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    How is it a contradiction? Define death for me. Death for Christians is not non-existence and if you think it is then the Resurrection is incoherent. I agree the soul which sins shall die, in both senses that can be properly taken in.
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    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    The Eternal Church. And I am referring to becoming a living person at the end there, for we know that the nous/spirit is what makes a person... a person, as explained by St. Paul in distinguishing between the life of man.
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    Taking communion: non member vs member.

    Yes. For Communion is in part a sign of communion between those who partake of it, if we do not have the same faith then we can not commune, the status of grace in their soul being irrelevant to this. I could never commune at a Unitarian place for we do not have the same faith, likewise I could...
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    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    Indeed, the body, the soul of it, and the spirit all shown. The spirit is what lasts and makes us a person, which is why my favorite translation of this passage is: "and now, from the clay of the ground, the Lord God formed man, breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and made of man a...
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    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    There is nothing complicated about it, and moreover that is not the doctrine of the immortality the Church holds. The soul is immortal not because of itself but because God wills it. That is the doctrine, for nothing which is made is necessarily immortal.
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    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    Or: you can be a Protestant and not be a "yes man" to Martin Luther as the other Reformers did who certainly were Protestants. And get this: you can be a Protestant and think that your beliefs have roots deeper than a 16th-century man suffering from scrupulosity. Simple as that really, they...
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    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    1) Sheol, the dusty place of the dead, the righteous and unrighteous, to wait for the Harrowing. 2) Because man was made to have a body and soul, a unity of matter and spirit. It is unnatural for a human to be deprived of this and moreover existing in a separated state like that is a sign of...
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    Refuting soul sleep, aka dirt nap doctrine

    Amen, this is pretty exhaustive. I will also call to proof Moses at the Transfiguration (he was dead yet spoke with Jesus there) also. Not to mention that although those who believe in the dirt nap will often bring up OT passages that Christ has in fact defeated death and bestowed life to those...
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    Will Jesus Christ Rule On This Earth In A Millennium, With A (Rod Of Iron)?

    You gave me Scripture, but quoting a thing and proving your interpretation of a quote are two different things, and only the latter counts as proof for a position based on the former. You simply are irrational, God bless.
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    Will Jesus Christ Rule On This Earth In A Millennium, With A (Rod Of Iron)?

    I haven't denied it, and I see that you have no proof of your position, so accordingly I will treat it as the worthless unproven claim that it is. Baruch HaShem. Even the false prophet Muhammad did better than this.
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    Will Jesus Christ Rule On This Earth In A Millennium, With A (Rod Of Iron)?

    Prove from Scripture that the passages are to be coupled, and prove that it is the Last Day of the world exclusively from Zechariah also.
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    Will Jesus Christ Rule On This Earth In A Millennium, With A (Rod Of Iron)?

    I have read them and none of it proves your position. Perhaps you should read them as they are written.
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    The Preeminence Of God!

    Amen, for as St. Paul said: "I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." And some Fathers said the like of "we are to become a small...
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    What Is Preterism?

    Every prophetic concept is not in the past. I am in the midst of discerning how much is in the past and how much is in the future, so I will divide this post between possible (Pos1-???) and definite (Def1-???) things that are in the future: Pos1: Antichrist with a Tribulation for the Church to...
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    What Is Preterism?

    Organized post for clarity. 1 - Addition to Scripture, no proof. 2 - Assertion with no proof. 3 - Assertion with no proof. 4 - Assertion with no proof. 5 - Falsehoods mixed with partial truths mixed with assertions that have no proof. 6 - Same as 5. 7 - More assertions with no proof. You can...
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    I have a question that remains unanswered:

    This is actually hilarious, considering that all sons have the same nature as their father, and are begotten of him, so if this comparison were honestly held you'd be a Trinitarian (or at least Binitarian). But I do not expect much of someone who is verbally incapable of presenting their...
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    What Is Preterism?

    I am aware of this verse and I use it to refute people about "heos" claims (the word used here translated as "unto" or "until," people use it for heretical things elsewhere). The short version of research is this: the word "heos" or "until" in the Scriptures does not mean that the thing said to...
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    What Is Preterism?

    I am not bowing down to any books, if not clear: I am asking you to interpret the Bible with the Bible to me, in exhaustive detail. You claim this is possible, I'd like to do it too (I do in fact do it but just rollin' with it). Show me the definition of the word "world" from the Bible itself...