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  1. No Pre-TB

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Why not doing a simple word study on Parousia? Each time it’s used refers to Christ 1 and only second visible coming.
  2. No Pre-TB

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    This sounds like Pre Trib: the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place. Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto...
  3. No Pre-TB

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    I'd like to mention something I have yet to see anyone post. In Luke 19:12-15, Christ mentions the parable of the ten minas. He says, He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return We all know Christ died, resurrected and ascended...
  4. No Pre-TB

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It isn’t an argument. The Bible says it. 26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off What does “after” mean to you? ; Adjective Transliteration: achar Phonetic Spelling: (akh-ar') Definition: the hind or following part By putting the word “after” in the text, it makes it...
  5. No Pre-TB

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Possibly because Christ didn’t die till “after 69 weeks” and not before it or during it in Daniel. As Ellicott says: After threescore and two weeks.—These words can only mean that in the seventieth week the Anointed one shall be cut off.
  6. No Pre-TB

    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I’d still like for someone to show me what verse says there’s a 7 year tribulation/persecution.
  7. No Pre-TB

    Before the flood is actually "after"

    Simply the belief that tribulation =wrath. A belief disproved by definition, usage and scriptures. The stumbling block they stumble over
  8. No Pre-TB

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    I apologize, ten EU Kings...It still isn't biblical as in the Bible. Its an opinion. I prefer to deal with scripture and not add to it. First, it's the people of the prince that is to come. Not the prince himself. My opinion and others, The prince was Christ and his people are the Jews. They...
  9. No Pre-TB

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    Yes, a spiritual temple.
  10. No Pre-TB

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    Can we stick with just the Bible and not man’s interpretation of future events outside the Bible? 1. The Bible doesn’t say 10 EU nations 2. The prince who shall come: Only adherents that take Daniel as unfulfilled think this refers to the man of sin. The rest of us acknowledge that the only...
  11. No Pre-TB

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    The third temple has already been built and continues to be added to with living stones.
  12. No Pre-TB

    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    I know you responded to another poster on this , but I would like to reply as well. The man of sin doesn’t need to be King of Israel. He only needs to deceive others into worship of anything other than God. I don’t understand why people feel they need to involve Israel with the AC. He goes to...
  13. No Pre-TB

    Before the flood is actually "after"

    Right, you believe Christ descended to earth to meet John. That’s a second advent. Rightttttt I stand by Jamieson when it’s said: yet the Holy Ghost has made him unconsciously (1Pe 1:11, 12) use language expressing the truth, that the resurrection is to be preceded by the dissolution of the...
  14. No Pre-TB

    Before the flood is actually "after"

    I take the word of God seriously. It seems anything that opposes your doctrine, you have an excuse for. Any verses I mention, you’ll have an excuse. Is that how we should interpret? As long said, I’ve not seen 1 commentary from anyone currently alive or dead that has said Jobs words are not...
  15. No Pre-TB

    Before the flood is actually "after"

    Once again, you’re assuming something from me that isn’t true. You’re very judgmental and I’m not sure why that is. I don’t look for verses to refute verses. Is that how we should use God’s word? Picking and choosing? Diminishing its worth? Every word of God is useful.
  16. No Pre-TB

    Before the flood is actually "after"

    There is 1 God, Jehovah. And this is the reason I also posted other comments. Because others do not deny Job’s truth. I’m not aware of anyone that has ever stated Job lied, was confused or his words were untrue. Not one person but you. I’ve looked at over 20 commentators; Pre-TB ones, historical...
  17. No Pre-TB

    Before the flood is actually "after"

    This is why I posted other comments on this subject. People understand the context as his second advent. Are you saying his speaking to John in Rev 1 was his advent? Did you not read, I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, John saw visions of God. Christ didn’t leave heaven to give him...
  18. No Pre-TB

    Before the flood is actually "after"

    You’re arguing with me but really you’re arguing with God. His word says so. 21Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. He cannot and will not leave heaven till that time. As...
  19. No Pre-TB

    Before the flood is actually "after"

    If you say so, but if he’s revealed to you now, than it isn’t pre-TB, because we would be beyond that timeline as Babylon would be destroyed. But yes, Obama is a man of sin. We all are sinners.
  20. No Pre-TB

    Before the flood is actually "after"

    Sorry. I take the Bible as infallible. Job was giving truth. As he said 2 verses later, 14If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come. I suppose that was part of his rhetoric that he had “no clue” as you put it. No, Job was in the...