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  1. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    That excerpt is part of a longer narration beginning in Ezekiel 36:22 which starts as follows: The passage you cited was specifically addressed to the nation of Israel, not to the people of the world generally. Are you suggesting that this passage really means that God will plant a "new heart...
  2. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    In my posting #67 I asked you: You replied in your posting #69: I took that to mean that you agreed with @Behold, who has been very clear and explicit about his beliefs.
  3. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Alright then, let's hear your answer to the question that I asked of @Behold: Will God damn to hell any and all people who do not explicitly believe in the Cross of Christ, even if they never once in their lives had any opportunity to learn about Jesus or the Bible or Yahweh or the Cross of...
  4. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Then you have conceded defeat. I accept your surrender. Thank you.
  5. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Are you talking about this posting: #47 That posting doesn't explain your reasoning. Can you fill me in?
  6. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    @ScottA : I began this thread with a discussion of the garden of Eden and the fact that Yahweh deprived Adam and Eve of eternal life. Did you miss that part? I also mentioned the words of Psalm 88 which specifically says that Yahweh doesn't have the ability to either resurrect the dead or...
  7. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    So you have no actual evidence for your beliefs. That's all the Non-Christians of this Non-Christian forum need to know. Thanks.
  8. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Sometimes, yes. But what does that have to do with the specific case we were discussing of a man living 4500 years ago in the city of Ur? Are you suggesting that Jesus gave everyone in that city the gift of salvation? If so when specifically did that happen? I've read quite a lot of literature...
  9. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Gee that's really swell. But what does that have to do with the Cross of Christ? According to @Behold it is absolutely necessary to have a specific belief in the Cross of Christ to be saved. Are you saying that @Behold is wrong? You said that the "things of nature" will inevitably lead one to a...
  10. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Huh? Let's consider a man living in the city of Ur, about 2500 BCE. That person would never have heard of Jesus, or Yahweh, or the gospel. So what "things of nature" could that person have observed or experienced that could possibly have made him aware of the gospel? Give me a specific example.
  11. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Why would that matter? Isn't every word in the Bible inspired by the Holy Spirit and therefore, indirectly at least, the Word of God?
  12. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Well well well. Your true Christian colors have finally shone forth. God determined that Noah and the seven members of his immediate family were worthy enough that he allowed them all to survive a flood that killed all other humans on the planet. But Noah lived 2500 years before Jesus and...
  13. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    What possible relevance could the Cross of Christ have to anyone who lived before the time of Jesus? Or to anyone at any time who had never heard of Jesus, or the Bible, or the Cross of Christ?
  14. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    See my very first posting on this thread.
  15. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Did you bother to read my initial posting on this thread? I stand by everything I said in that posting and I don't see any value in restating what I already said.
  16. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    I did in the very first posting in this thread! Go back and read it from start to finish.
  17. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Maybe not to you, but the authors of the Old Testament believed that the fruit of the tree of life could extend life indefinitely. Once Adam and Eve were evicted from the garden of Eden neither they nor their descendants were able to continue eating the fruit of the tree of life, and they...
  18. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    So yes, Adam and Eve WERE deprived of eternal life. That's the whole point of the fairy tale of the garden of Eden.
  19. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    I wasn't defending Islam or Mormonism. I'm just pointing out that the adherents of the separate faiths of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and Mormonism all claim to be praying to the same God, the God of Abraham and yet they can't agree about much of anything. And therefore prayer is never going...
  20. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Why would God concoct an extensive code of laws and give them to the people only to recommend that they be ignored a few hundred years later? Why would God deprive Adam and Eve and their descendants of eternal life only to decide four thousand years later to resurrect the dead, put them on...