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  1. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    One could say exactly the same thing about the Koran or the Book of Mormon or the Vedas and Upanishads or any of a huge number of other religious writings. Does that mean that you regard all Muslims and Mormons and Hindus and Sikhs and Baha'is as brothers in faith?
  2. the.reverent.atheist

    A God of Hate

    There are many passages in the Bible that explicitly say that Yahweh, the God of the Bible, is merciful and loving. Here’s an example: But that’s far from the whole story. The Book of Joshua describes the conquest of the lands promised to the Israelites. Chapter 12 lists 31 kingdoms that were...
  3. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    Okay, then how do you interpret that passage from the book of Matthew? Here it is again: You cited a bunch of other passages from the Bible apparently on the assumption that all of the passages in the Bible agree with each other. They don't. Paul even contradicted himself! Here's Paul talking...
  4. the.reverent.atheist

    Old Testament Morality

    You've totally lost me. Here's what the Bible says about the stone tablets: So yes the God of the Bible-- Yahweh-- did indeed write in stone with his finger. I have no idea where you came up with the interpretation that your God doesn't write on stones.
  5. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    Okay, well I agree that Jesus said-- in the passage Matthew 12:31 that you cited-- that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven. Isn't that what I said? Here are my words that you cited: So I guess we agree that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven? If you read a...
  6. the.reverent.atheist

    Old Testament Morality

    The Second Commandment says: The example I gave of a statue of Mary inside a church in the city of Bourges is just such an image. So are the stained glass windows of that exquisite High Gothic cathedral. So by my reading they are a clear violation of the Second Commandment. How do you...
  7. the.reverent.atheist

    New Testament Morality

    The Miriam-Webster dictionary's first definition of "forgive" is: So "pardon" is a synonym for "forgive." Here's the same dictionary's second definition of pardon: When you say that "Forgiveness is letting go of a hurt," that's part of what forgive means. But to forgive someone also implies...
  8. the.reverent.atheist

    Old Testament Morality

    If you're referring to the tablets that contained the Ten Commandments, those were engraved with words, not images. The Second Commandment explicitly refers to images.
  9. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    I’d like to extend the previous thought to consider a common aspect of these various faiths: their exclusivity. Imagine that you had somehow reached adulthood without ever having heard of Christianity, Islam, or Mormonism. Being naturally inquisitive, you decide to learn about each of these...
  10. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    I'd like to take up a point that slipped by. I won't be mentioning any names because who said it isn't important; what was said is. Here's what was said: But that opinion-- that humans have personal agency in their decision to follow Jesus or not-- is the opposite of what Paul said in the...
  11. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Oh please, stop with the whining already! You barged in to this discussion uninvited. No one asked your opinion. No one forced you to join. But you are so needy and so intolerant of anyone who disagrees with you in the least that you just couldn't resist the opportunity to bash all of your...
  12. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    @Wrangler: Neither I nor anyone else on this thread ever mentioned anything about Spiderman. A more relevant comparison might have been something like the following: A. The Bible proves that Jesus was truly resurrected from the dead and therefore if you want to enjoy an eternal life in...
  13. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Here's how normal discussions go: Person A: I believe X. Person B: I disagree. Why do you believe that X is true? Person A: I have the following evidentiary examples: D, E, F, ... Here's how @Wrangler and @ScottA think that discussions about their Christian fever dreams must go: Christian: I...
  14. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    @Wrangler: Put up or shut up. What is your interpretation?
  15. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    You didn't tell me that you had a difference of opinion about my interpretation of the passage from Ezekiel. You told me my interpretation was wrong. If you cannot-- or will not-- explain why my interpretation is wrong then I have every reason and right to say that your claim is bogus. Put up...
  16. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Okay, you have a deeper, more penetrating and comprehensive understanding of that passage than I. So I'll give you my interpretation of it, adjusted for your insight that it applies to every person who ever has lived or whoever will live, and you respond with your interpretation. That way I can...
  17. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Here's what I said on May 13th:
  18. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    The passage that @Wrangler cited doesn't say that. It says that God will replace your stubborn stony heart with a willing, tender heart. That's not an invitation. That's a heart transplant. And according to @Wrangler, God is going to do that for every person who has ever lived and who ever will...
  19. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    Awesome. So God will turn the stubborn stony hearts of every man woman and child who has ever lived-- and ever will live-- on planet earth to a willing tender heart of flesh. That means that everyone on earth will be tender and willing, now and forever. And that means that everyone now and...
  20. the.reverent.atheist

    The Messiah

    No, I didn't ask if you agreed. My exact words were: "Are you saying that @Behold is wrong?" And you responded "Not at all," meaning that you did not think that @Behold is wrong.