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    Have the leadership of the church become pawns of the Devil?

    To the main point, I would agree and say yes. However, the devil is a pawn of God at this point, and all he can do is benefit a true believer in testing their faith. So even if you have a false shepherd at the top, true Christians who remain in fellowship with God can only benefit from the...
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    The Unity of the Spirit

    Sadly, I think we, as a church will still argue, even over spiritual experience. A momentary unification can end up in antagonistic views based on how we each view our own experience. That is what I've seen in experience, and that is what I see in denominations. I see people who take "How"...
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    Redemptive Suffering / Did Christ Die Spiritually?

    Cool, now that there's some (not complete) equal ground in terminology, I'm still having trouble looking through the past several posts, what is being disagreed on or discussed. I see a jumble of "you're wrong" -tons of scripture, "your personal walk with God must be false" statements. I can't...
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    Polygamy

    I guess there could be mutually consented abstinence, though polygamous sex after marriage I assume would be the norm in this case. Oh, I get what you're saying, another exception based on if a man has sex with a woman who is not already married. That definitely was important in Old testament...
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    Polygamy

    I feel that God will put one man together with one woman, at least as far as sexual relations are concerned. However, I believe there is an exception. It has to do with the protection of a woman and it is an exception that is dependent on culture. Due to the fact that a married man and woman...
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    Redemptive Suffering / Did Christ Die Spiritually?

    I skimmed most of the discussion. I think Rex mentioned a lot of confusion. I think for a proper discussion to occur, there should be some clarity and equal ground found on some key terms. What does it mean for a spirit to die? Does spiritual death actually mean non existence, or does...
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    Most churches around are going back to basic principles it seems. A few are searching around...

    Most churches around are going back to basic principles it seems. A few are searching around other avenues where they feel they can find mystery. Most leaders seemed stumped.
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    When robots, fools, and beauties play, I play in part the fool.

    When robots, fools, and beauties play, I play in part the fool.
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    Is it a Sin?

    I honestly don't think it's strictly a sin, but I think it's a sin for me to do it, personally. That's what I get after I've prayed about it. I haven't conversed with enough people to know how they label it, and I can't find where this would fit scripturally in a black and white sense. If you...
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    New Heavens and New Earth

    I'll message you some stuff I'd like your input on Justin. I've already mentioned a few of the parts I disagree on. I respect revelation, however, and know there's only certain parts, in my spirit, that I'm supposed to know right now. Maybe you have more or maybe they fit together somehow...
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    The Rapture: Harmonizing differing viewpoints.

    It's one thing to know knowledge and another to experience it, that's one thing you would agree with. I may know my wife to the best of my ability, but I haven't really "known" her, in a biblical context, until we've had sex. I'm not sure if I'm kidding or not on that point, it actually sounds...
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    List being compiled/// Secession

    I don't know, but maybe you're just being more specific with your race and culture than people are comfortable with. America has many cultures inside it, and each culture has its own system inside itself of right and wrong. We're at a point now, however, where the body of Christ needs to stand...
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    New Heavens and New Earth

    It's actually a really good thing, the post millenium prophetics, as I guess we can call it. Here's my take on things. I do believe Jesus' return is before the start of the millenium (or the exact timing of it w/e). I think the point of the millenium is Christ's rule and reign and the...
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    List being compiled/// Secession

    If it's not the Body of Christ contrary to the world, then it's just the world contrary to itself, and we're not part of that. I guess that might look different depending on where we live and what nation we're from, but the key verse I can think of is that we don't fight flesh and blood, even...
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    New Heavens and New Earth

    I consider the final recreation like another passover, but this time with fire, explaining how we would survive this event while remaining on earth. I'm more of a completionist I guess, because of how far reaching I believe Jesus original covering goes and how many will have "his blood on their...
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    The Rapture: Harmonizing differing viewpoints.

    I would also separate God's knowledge from his will and plan when talking about this. He can know exactly what is going to happen and change his course accordingly, knowing full well when the course needs to be changed, based on the susceptibility of man to sin. I've thought about whether or...
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    My Scripture Can Beat Up Your Scripture

    I've had the experience many times where I was wrong about something, but God didn't reveal it to me until way later, and it usually had to do with an experience or test in my life. A lot of revelation seems to be a timing sort of thing. I have to consider that I may still be in that...
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    Angelina Promoted!

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    How far is too far? (its about sex)

    I'm sorry but I have to ask...Has the body of Christ sunk so low and gotten so far off track that this really needs to be a topic of discussion at a gathering? Yes- There's a weird polarization in the church between "grace" and legalism, and both can fall way off the charts. I put quotes...
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    The First Law

    I would disagree with only some of this. I say the first law is Genesis 1:27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. What you are stating sounds like the first commandment mentioned in scripture that someone broke. The...