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I explained Revelation 20:10 here. Note: We are forced by Scripture to be led to the conclusion that Revelation 21:10 is not speaking about being tormented for all eternity based on several points in Scripture, which I mention here. He that has ears to hear let him hear.

This statement is not really dealing with the points I made. Please go back and make a more intelligent response. Just expressing opinionated statements does not really mean anything.

No, sorry. That's not true. The JW's did not invent Conditional Immortality in the Bible. The JW's came into existence in the 1870s. Charles Taze Russel organized a Bible study, and by 1880 there were 30 congregations following his teaching. In 1879, he began publishing The Watchtower...

I believe that would be side-stepping the points and or issues I made, my friend. Then again, I see the ECT belief as not standing up to any real scrutiny. I remember watching one debate between ECT vs. Conditional Immortality on YouTube recently, and the ECT guy was not really dealing...

Weirsbe's Commentary: "While Isaiah focused especially on Edom (Isa. 34:5–6), he was using that proud nation as an example of what God would do to all the Gentile nations during the day of the Lord. Bozrah was an important city in Edom; the name means “grape-gathering” (see Isa. 63:1–8). God...

And now I understand why you speak in extremes on minor issues (like whether or not a believer holds to the existence of the Nephilim). I believe beyond all shadow of a doubt that the Jehovah's Witness religion is false (obviously). Here are my reasons why...

I'm not sure I could ever read a heretical translation like that unless I were trying to do an extensive write-up on exposing the JW religion. Are you a Jehovah's Witness? Do you believe in the Trinity? Do you believe in Conditional Immortality or something else regarding the topic of the Lake...

Do you believe that if Christians do not believe in the Nephilim, they are not saved?

@Michiah-Imla My point about Isaiah 34:10 is similar to Numbers 15:15. The same idea is expressed in Numbers 15:15 (in a recent post I provided to Jack) in post #693. Please refer back to that post and give me a reply to that, as well. Thank you, and may God bless you.

Source: https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=ever The third definition listed above can define "ever" as "To a great extent or degree." “…shall be tormented day and night for ever [a great extent] and ever [degree].” (Revelation 20:10) Also, you pointed me to Scripture to explain...

But you don't believe the second death is really related to the first death in a literal way. The first death is literal, and the second one is metaphorical. That is not really a sequel. Also, post the verses whereby you think the lake of fire is eternal torment.

@Michiah-Imla Great Points on Conditional Immorality: The Tree in the Garden (See here). Revelation 21:8 says that the Lake of Fire is the Second Death. The Second Death is related to the First Death. But in ECT this is not the case; They are not really related. Rather, be afraid of the...

Yes, you do. When you read Revelation 21:8, you do not consider this a literal death. So in your version of Revelation 21:8, it would read like this: "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have...

Saying that the heresy of not believing in Eternal Torment is on the "high scale mark" suggests that those who do not believe in Eternal Torment are not saved. Is this what you are suggesting? If so, that is a very serious charge and such a charge made by such a person also needs to be able to...

Challenging you to see if you are man enough to do something good as a part of the faith is not the same as making unfounded gross accusations that are a personal attack. One particular poster judged my salvation as a part of this topic, and I believe that is crossing the line. I do not...

Instead of just posting a meter (as your defense), please try and address the actual verses on this topic instead. Take, for example, my last post to Jack involving Numbers 15:15 in post # 693. Are you man enough to deal with that verse in what it says? It is saying that the animal sacrifices...

@Jack Numbers 15:15 (KJB) says, "One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth with you, an ordinance for ever in your generations: as ye are, so shall the stranger be before the LORD." This is in context to the animal sacrifices, as you...

To all: When folks on the one side have to resort to unfounded personal attacks instead of explaining things, that really shows the weakness in their argument and their lack of maturity in Christ; in other words, it does not bode well for a person's position or belief when they do things like this.

John 3:36 needs to be read in light of this verse: Romans 1:32 "Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."