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    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Hellfire and brimstone are a Roman Catholic view. It sets up fear as the key driver, rather than love. Once you understand what love is and that this is God, hell is separation from God. So meaningfully as humans we are built on love, and damaged by its withdrawal and retaliation against...
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    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    As I have grown older I have come to see what matters is seeing others needs and where they are, and finding a way to help and support. It is hard to love others, especially when it is so easy to lash out at others when upset or overwhelmed. It strikes me this is where Jesus calls us to be...
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    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Everything comes down to what we actually are. Unfortunately we are linear creatures who build our personalities on learnt behaviours as we grow which become fairly fixed by age 25. Everything we experience is through our own minds and feelings, empathy replaying what we feel and think others...
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    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    This point I think is hard for us to understand. We look at ourselves as impure and incapable, which is a continuous state. But the Lord implies the priests could wash and cleanse themselves and enter the temple Holy. Jesus emphasised this by talking about what made people impure, and that...
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    Is Obedience a Condition of Salvation?

    Do His followers love Him? They listen to Him and follow. It is an emotional and spiritual bond. And this bond is broken by sin and evil, when the heart goes hard and will no longer listen. It is strange but when the storms come, Jesus's reality in our lives is the rock, our behaviour...
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    How do you reconcile "the gates of Hell will NOT prevail" with Satan supposedly taking most of mankind to Hell with him?

    Do you believe in eternal conscious torment with no hope of escape? "What Kind of God do we got if that is true?", as you ask. I agree this interpretation of eternal punishment to be eternal torment is not scriptural. Only satan and his followers are deemed worthy of this judgement, as they are...
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    How do you reconcile "the gates of Hell will NOT prevail" with Satan supposedly taking most of mankind to Hell with him?

    There is something profound in life, we are born lost with a heart of love. This in itself is a contradiction which either dies from the darkness or connects with the creator. Fear and anxiousness mixed with pride are our destiny, creating a toxic destructive society taking chunks out of each...
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    How do you reconcile "the gates of Hell will NOT prevail" with Satan supposedly taking most of mankind to Hell with him?

    I like this cartoon because it summarises the problem God came to solve. Man sends himself to the lake of fire. In one sense belief is not important, it is love that is important and how it works in our lives. This universe in which we live was founded by the creator and we are created in His...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    There is a problem with us getting an answer from the Lord that is instructive or directive. The Lords questions in the garden of Eden were inquisitive, asking Adam to declare what had happened. Of course the Lord knew, but the question was about honest and declaration by the individuals...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    "He is always just standing there talking to us so all we have to do is desire to hear from Him!!!" Amen, Jesus's message is simple. If you love Him you will obey His commands. How is it that those who claim to be listening to Jesus can also be deaf to His commands. Love your neighbour as you...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    Sadly so much of the church is listening to prophets proclaiming Trump as Gods messenger. So God has chosen a liar, sexual abuser, a man who calls friends enemies as soon as they upset him is the example we should all follow and it matters the fate of the USA. It is no coincidence that the...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    I agree with a little leaven leavens the whole lump. A forum is literally an exchange of positions without the accompanying context and other background. Within this context, there are people here who in real life one would never meet. A lot of the latter rain theology I only saw in detail...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    I have found discussing scripture with people of many different views is educational. Some positions for me are obviously wrong and some so absurd I did not believe anyone believed them until I met them. One such group denied the sermon on the mount applied to believers. Only by learning...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    "The above is a very poor understanding of what happens in the spiritual realm around us!!!" Not sure what you mean. Are you a follower of angels who give gold dust, or jewels, or angel feathers, or using christian tarot cards, or bring messages from dead believers to members in a congregation...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    You are right about me not abdicating critical thinking when faced with "The Lord asked me" If we are on speaking terms with God, like a question and answer session, why have scripture or fellowship or anything but a series of questions for the Lord and listening to His reply, like a robot...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    I am happy that you feel you are a god. How does this make you different to me, a sanctified believer? The reason there is hope for sinners, is because we need forgiveness and purification and our lives transformed, which is a miracle when it happens. Jesus said I tell you that in the same...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    You may ask why is "you are gods" so dangerous an idea? It is because its root foundation when emphasised is rebellion against the Father and gives authority to the individual to go their own way. As preached by various prosperity preachers, they claimed they had authority on earth and the Lord...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    Flesh - physical body or worldly desires which enhance our earthly existence. Watch out for those dogs, those men who do evil, those mutilators of the flesh Phil 3:2 Dispute regarding circumcision. Do not be deceived. God will not be made a fool. For a person will reap what he sows, because...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    "we don't understand that we are gods" In mythology a god has creative power, the ability to command creation from themselves, without reference to another power. In scripture only the Father has creative power. Jesus compared forgiving sins and healing as being equal, so if He could heal He...
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    ‘I SAID, YOU ARE GODS’?

    It struck me recently that heresy often starts out with perspectives or frameworks which draw various spiritual conclusions. These conclusions lead to behaviours and approaches. For some the behaviours and approaches are blessed and good while others sinful and destructive. The debate between...