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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    I'm neither of those things. And I agree they will not enter into God's rest (How can we enter into God’s rest? | GotQuestions.org). The rest that gives eternal life and immortality to mortal souls. Lazarus was in Hades, not the lake of fire. "To those who by persistence in doing good seek...
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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    1. They rejected him in paradise. Adam and Eve were the representives of all mankind, so all of us would have disobeyed. 2. They did meet him, and they nailed him to a cross. 3. They didn't bother seeking him in this life when they've been given many chances to do so. With shame, fear, weeping...
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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    They didn't bow in paradise (since Adam was representing all of man, it means every single one of us would've disobeyed) They didn't bow here in a place where there is suffering They didn't bow when Jesus came down, instead they nailed him to a cross But they will bow when he comes back to...
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    Apokatastasis in the Bible

    Lol I'm not the arbiter of truth but I do expect people to at least consider what I say and attempt to understand it.
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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    I'm not sure if you read this part before I edited it, but let me show you just to make it clear: Yes they will bow. But not by choice. The time for choice came and went. If "bowing" was what saved you, then it's your works that save you. Rather, when people FREELY CHOOSE to bow, it's a result...
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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    I agree we're going in circles, but it's not because I refuse to see where you're coming from. It's because you refuse to accept that some people will never accept Jesus. They will crucify him 100 times out of 100. God cannot force people to love him. He cannot force people to be sinless. He...
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    Apokatastasis in the Bible

    We went over this too: How are God’s invisible attributes clearly seen in creation (Romans 1:20)? | GotQuestions.org I'm just repeating myself at this point, because you have a very selective memory.
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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    We've went over 1 Corinthians 3:12-15 as well. This verse is about a Christian's works being judged. Not about salvation. Salvation has nothing to do with our works. John 15:6 is talking about people who claim to be Christian and yet don't produce fruit. They're hypocrites, and not true...
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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    Because your version of "justice" ignores people's free will decision. God is love. Love cannot be forced. We've already went over this. They won't get an opportunity to be saved in the afterlife, so when they're forced to bow and acknowledge him as God, they won't be doing so willingly...
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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    "If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned." - John 15:6
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    Apokatastasis in the Bible

    Romans 1:20 I conclude that you ignore what you read, yes.
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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    Look, it's very clear you don't believe in justice. Before you ask "how is it fair to be cut off from God?" Because he's not going to force anyone to be with him. He has given everyone an opportunity to know him, and they keep giving him the middle finger. If you do that for long enough; if...
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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    If God is good, he must punish evil. We have all done evil. Some more than others. Never said that. I said when they're cut off from God, they'll slowly wither up and die.
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    Apokatastasis in the Bible

    Correct. Most people who hear about him reject him. They know what he did and they don't even care. Only a few will bother to investigate it for themselves, but everyone is free to. People don't need to hear about Jesus to be without excuse. Again you're throwing out the entire Bible. If you...
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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    They haven't experienced the final judgment. He was in Hades. Not the lake of fire.
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    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    Yes, to lay at God's doorstep helpless is indeed a very terrible thing. That's why Jesus gives us so many chances and warns us over and over again just how dreadful that day will be for those who reject him. "It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." - Hebrews 10:31 But...
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    Apokatastasis in the Bible

    What this verse means is that Jesus' life is the only path to heaven. That no one comes to the Father but through him. And indeed most people reject him, yet most people know about him and what he did for them. So he wasn't lying. To be fair, if Romans 1:20 means everyone is without excuse, and...
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    Apokatastasis in the Bible

    "13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." - Matthew 7:13-14 The truth is not subjective. Also you saying I should...
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    Apokatastasis in the Bible

    It's pretty straightforward really: How are God’s invisible attributes clearly seen in creation (Romans 1:20)? | GotQuestions.org Yes some invented their own gods, just like the Bible says. They're still without excuse. But as for people who never heard of Jesus? Well their consciences will...