OSAS : Gnostic Heresy

Christian Soldier · Monday at 5:07 PM

Taken said:
To elaborate…

We, us, our, in context of individuals… All have FREEWILL Choice, to Believe or Reject as They “individually Elect”.

It IS that which an individual CHOOSES to “Believe or Reject”, which WILL “APPLY” to Them.

Blankety “I” Believe “ALL” Scripture “IS TRUE”.

Do “I” individually “Believe, Accept, Apply “ALL” Scripture TO ME, Individually? No.

Do “I” individually “Reject Applying” SOME Scripture “TO Me”? Yes.

Did I just, exercise “my” FREEWILL of Choice…”pick and choose”? Yes.

Is it TRUE a person can follow after Jesus? Yes.

Is it TRUE a person can follow after Satan?
Yes.

Is it TRUE an individuals “Choice” to Believe and follow Jesus IS Rejecting Satan…and Vise Versa? Yes.

Point is:
Good / Evil
Right / Wrong
Light / Dark
Up / Down
With / Without
Spiritual / Natural
“ARE ALL” Scriptural Truths…
An Individual “Freely Choosing” one, IS Rejecting the “opposing”. <—> picking and choosing

Glory to God,
Taken

Men have interpreted the bible in countless different ways over the past 2000 years, this is why we have around 47,000 different Christian Denominations. Yet all of these Denominations fall into one of two theological categories.

One believes that salvation is a joint effort between God and man (you obviously hold to that view) and the other view is that salvation is all of the Lord from the beginning to the end and man doesn't contribute anything to his salvation (that's the view I hold to).

We will never agree on the core bible doctrines, while we hold to radically different interpretations of the gospel. The debate over the two gospel versions has been raging for the past 500 years and the Church has disintegrated into countless denominations over this very issue.

Christian Soldier · Monday at 5:10 PM

Jack said:
You said you HATE your own parents!

That is a lie, I never said I hated my parents. I was only quoting the Lord Jesus Christ, so your problem is with the Lord and not me

Christian Soldier · Monday at 5:12 PM

Jack said:
Those who hate others are not forgiven their sins. Jesus said so!

Now you're accusing Jesus of hypocrisy, don't you have any fear of the Lord at all???

Jack · Monday at 5:32 PM

Christian Soldier said:
That is a lie, I never said I hated my parents. I was only quoting the Lord Jesus Christ, so your problem is with the Lord and not me

Quoting YOU: "Yes I hate my parents and I hate my life, because I obey my Lord and Savior."

God's Hatred

This is not a request! Matthew 5:44 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, Nobody is denying that Jesus did say that, but we need to consider the context in which it was spoken. We can't pluck out short verses and force the rest of the bible to conform to it. Remember, Jesus is God. He is...

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Post #25

GracePeace · Monday at 5:43 PM

Can we all relax with all the needless drama? Christ says hate your parents and even your own life or you can't be His disciple. It's not controversial. Stop acting like it is just so you can "score a point". You're not scoring a point.

Taken · Monday at 11:00 PM

Christian Soldier said:
Men have interpreted the bible in countless different ways over the past 2000 years, this is why we have around 47,000 different Christian Denominations.

LOL

Christian Soldier said:
Yet all of these Denominations fall into one of two theological categories.

Must have been a daunting, time consuming task to investigate some 47,000 different Christian denominations to arrive at your conclusion.

Christian Soldier said:
One believes that salvation is a joint effort between God and man (you obviously hold to that view) and the other view is that salvation is all of the Lord from the beginning to the end and man doesn't contribute anything to his salvation (that's the view I hold to).

Actually as I take the Liberty to Speak for myself…
Salvation IS a Gift that belongs to the Lord God, which He promises to Give to men WHO freely “CHOOSE to believe IN Him”.
Which Scripture calls:

1 Thes 1:
[4] Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

And The Lord Gods Direction and Promise to Reward Believers who CHOOSES (elects) to SERVE Him.

Josh 24:
[15] And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

Matt 16:
[27] For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Christian Soldier said:
We will never agree on the core bible doctrines, while we hold to radically different interpretations of the gospel.

It is your prerogative to believe or reject as you choose.
It is not your prerogative to speak for me.

Glory to God,
Taken

Christian Soldier · 2025-04-26T07:44:02-0500

Jack said:
Quoting YOU: "Yes I hate my parents and I hate my life, because I obey my Lord and Savior."

God's Hatred

This is not a request! Matthew 5:44 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, Nobody is denying that Jesus did say that, but we need to consider the context in which it was spoken. We can't pluck out short verses and force the rest of the bible to conform to it. Remember, Jesus is God. He is...

www.christianityboard.com

Post #25

OK, so now you admit that you reject all of those things God said, which you don't like. I don't do that I embrace the whole counsel of the Lord, even those things you hate.

When you reject Gods Word, you commit the sin of idolatry, and you set yourself up as your own god.

Christian Soldier · 2025-04-26T08:49:24-0500

Taken said:
LOL

Must have been a daunting, time consuming task to investigate some 47,000 different Christian denominations to arrive at your conclusion.

Actually as I take the Liberty to Speak for myself…
Salvation IS a Gift that belongs to the Lord God, which He promises to Give to men WHO freely “CHOOSE to believe IN Him”.
Which Scripture calls:

1 Thes 1:
[4] Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

And The Lord Gods Direction and Promise to Reward Believers who CHOOSES (elects) to SERVE Him.

Josh 24:
[15] And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

Matt 16:
[27] For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

It is your prerogative to believe or reject as you choose.
It is not your prerogative to speak for me.

Glory to God,
Taken

There is only One Truth and His Name is the Lord Jesus Christ, so I can speak for you if you believe the Truth. The Truth said things like -

John 15:16
You did not choose Me but I chose you, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you.

2 Thessalonians 2:13
But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.

If you believe what Gods Word says, then you agree that God choses to save some and leave others in their sin. You can't twist the above verses to make them fit your unbiblical view, whereby you get to chose God and not the other way around.

And how do you deal with Gods Word, when it confirms that nobody seeks God. You say men can seek God but God's Word says they don't, so I'm forced to believe what you say over what Gods Word clearly states.

Romans 3:10-12 “None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.”

The above verses clearly say that "no one seeks for God", but you claim they do, so I have no choice but to reject your theology as being unbiblical and false.

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