Were the Gospel accounts a mythology of Jesus?
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Stumpmaster
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Spiritual Extortion - The threat of consequence for refusing the "Free Gift" of salvation
The consequences. ??? - If you refuse the "Free Gift" of salvation - If you walk away from the church - If you question the church - If you are not "faithful" until the end (whatever that means) --- PARODY --- Person #1: Receive the free gift of eternal life. Person #2: No thanks. Person...
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HisServantinChristJesus
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Behold
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Jesus wasn't lying, and they killed Him.
11 of the original Apostles were murdered......save for John.
Paul the Apostle was beheaded.
Psalms 116:15
English Standard Version
Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.
Berean Standard Bible
Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of His saints.
King James Bible
Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.
New American Standard Bible
Precious in the sight of the LORD Is the death of His godly ones.
HisServantinChristJesus
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I truly doubt that God is going to answer to you for drowning all on Earth but 8, "making them an example", or burning the Sodomites alive including children, "making them an example", or for sending Lions to kill those who didn't FEAR Him, or burning BILLIONS of humans, including gays, in the EVERLASTING FIRE "FOREVER and ever", as the Bible CLEARLY says! Jesus said so.
No accountability for global genocide?
That's quite a fine monster god you have created.
You bow to and worship that caricature?
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Nope! ZERO! Ain't nobody that can, not even you.
You'll have to blame Jesus, He said it. Remember you said that on Judgment Day. Jesus will.
Luke 17:27-30
27 They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built;
29 but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.
You ain't seen nothing yet!
30 Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
Why don't you just call Him GOD/Jesus as the Bible does? Yes I certainly will bow and WORSHIP Him! Everyone will bow, even you, atheists, gays etc.
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HisServantinChristJesus
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I wouldn't single out "gays" because the proud and the liars will be there too. All the abominable ones. In the Proverbs- it doesn't mention gays in the abominable- not saying all sins won't be judged- but he specifically says proud looks, lying tongues, feet swift to shed innocent blood, etc. He considers proud people some of the worst abominations of creation.
HisServantinChristJesus
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All fornicators and those who look at anyone in lust too. God weighs the heart. Have you ever witnessed to anyone caught in sexual sin of any kind?
HisServantinChristJesus
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You should consider quoting the whole verse instead of throwing random chapters. I'll start:
Revelation 21:8 KJV — But the fearful (those afraid to die for Christ) and unbelieving (unrepentance shows unbelief because Jesus and John the Baptist's first words were 'repent and believe' not 'just believe'), and the abominable*, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS (even little white liars), shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Let's look at abominable-
Proverbs 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an ABOMINATION unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth (imagines something worse than the truth or plans to do something wrong) wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief (troublemakers) A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren (a "Christian" that likes to stur the pot).
You should be certain that you're not caught in pride unwilling to search for the lost sheep regardless of their current sexual status. Jesus didn't discriminate who he witnessed to of the lost sheep. The second you declare one act of sin greater than the ones listed in Revelation 21-22 and the Proverbs- you're adding to it and will be added to the plagues. It sounds like you have a real hatred towards one isolated group of sinners that you deem worse according to your own pride. You might want to remove the beam and get some eyesalve in there. It's important to humble ourselves before the Lord all the time (I know I need to) and remember from when we you are fallen. If we are too prideful to reach them that Christ died for- his death had no effect on us.
HisServantinChristJesus
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Not loving them and reaching them with the gospel puts yourself at danger of hellfire. It sounds like you have a real hatred of the very sinners Christ Jesus came to save. It's going to suck for you to left behind witnessing to a tougher audience.
You think you love gays by defending them?
I Cor 6 Homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God!
I'm here to pull gays from the fire. Why are you here? To attack us who pull them from the fire?
Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,
HisServantinChristJesus
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Yes- you have a choice. We all have a choice. I chose Christ because He died for me. What greater love do you want Him to show? Give you a pass into his house being alan Unrepentant sinners? You can't come in my house and neglect my rules!
And I know what you're going to say "but He doesn't just keep us out of His house, He sends us to hell"- that's both true and not true. How will we have 1000 years of peace if there are people going against Him while He's ruling saying we don't have to obey His simple instructions? I don't get to go to your house and tell your family to rebel against you!
So those people can't be there. It's His world that He created. It started with eating one thing that didn't belong to us. Think about that. Is that the only sin you've ever done? One time you are something that didn't belong to you and that's it? I doubt it. You'd have broken a record, but since you hate God for YOUR bad decisions and then He gives you a way of escape which you ALSO reject- what is He supposed to do? Send you off an an island somewhere? You already can't limit your sin to one tree. So how does that work? Adam and Eve got sent out of the garden& not killed. They got 1000 years (roughly) to live. He told them they'd die the day they are it and 1000 years is a day.......then their kids murdered, took multiple wives, covered every woman and took them as they feel. Then God sends Noah to warn people for what- a hundred years or so? So there was NOBODY who lived their kids enough to repent? How many people tell their romantic partners they swim across the ocean for them? How many parents say I will do anything for my kids? Yet they're completely unwilling to tell them the truth about God's word. They're completely unwilling to tell them that they have to turn away from sin.
So there you have it- on one end of the scale he offers eternal life and spends thousands of years asking us to repent...... While we get progressively worse and more evil. If someone won't tell another person about their opportunity to live forever- they have to really hate that person. Some people hate their own children more than they love them. They would rather teach their children to hate God or that he doesn't exist after God lovingly and carefully created them.
I guess if my kids treated me that way I wouldn't want them around either. But then there's the matter of hell. Hell was made for Satan and his angels corrupt the world- the wicked ones we were warned of but can't seem to stay away from. So we as a fallen World partake in sorceries, witchcraft, white and dark magic, horoscopes, New age nonsense, every kind of sexuality we crave- and then we get mad at him for sending us to our master's chamber which is in hell. Satan is the only one telling you you shouldn't have to go there and that he loved you more than God and that he would never do such a thing to you. Yet all the while he is telling you come follow me and you do it. You don't even know he's the one luring you and you do it. Why do you think Satan wants you to go to hell? Well he's already got people passing their kids through the fire to Moloch. She's already showing you that he likes people being burned alive. He likes innocent people suffering like babies and children and virgins. So if those people suffered because of the wicked people in this world why would Jesus want them in his Millennial Kingdom? And if you don't think you're that bad just keep going the way you're going it'll always get worse. Years ago I wasn't doing too good but I'm glad he was patient and merciful with me! If you're willing he'll be patient and merciful with you, but he's been warning us for thousands of years and that time is almost up to make that decision. I don't want you to make the decision that you're going to regret- and neither does he because he loves you enough to warn you through himself and other people like me- someone who thought he was a bully once too.
HisServantinChristJesus
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So you save them with threats? Are they here in this forum? Are you saving anyone? What's your success rate? Are you using fear to save sinners or targeting ONE group of sinners- because it sure sounds like you're targeting only one brand of sinner and not yourself. I'm trying to save you with fear pulling you out of the fire.
HisServantinChristJesus
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So how do you discern when to use compassion? You use compassion on proud people like yourself? Or do you use compassion on those who are different than yourself also? If you're going to preach like Christ show me where he preached like you are to one targeted group of sinner. Try to just show me one verse from Christ. That should be the foundation.
Threats, warnings, call it what you like. It's what God said. Gays are heading for Hell.
I think there may be at least one.
God knows.
God knows.
Psalm 111:10
10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom;
Romans 1:26-27
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful,
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