Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

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I asked them, "What would become of your faith if you put your whole library out on the curb on trash day?"
The guilty are left mostly speechless. Or, alternatively VERY angry. How come?
Are you going to take away their internet connection too so they can't read their Bibles online? (You bastard!) :Laughingoutloud:
 
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Does the Bible represent all that God is, in one small portable package?

(Dang, I miss that little green Gideon New Testament (and Psalms) that could fit in my shirt pocket. I wonder what happened to it?)
 
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Are you going to take away their internet connection too so they can't read their Bibles online? (You bastard!) :Laughingoutloud:
Haha!

Does anyone truly believe Satan wants the bibles to disappear. They are one of his favourite and most used tool. Through it he can manipulate, deceive, divide or unite and control the masses.
 
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This dude risked his life to smuggle local-language Bibles into countries where possessing a Bible could get you tossed into some hellhole of a prison. Or summarily executed.

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This dude risked his life to smuggle local-language Bibles into countries where possessing a Bible could get you tossed into some hellhole of a prison. Or summarily executed.
This dude risked his life to smuggle local-language Bibles into countries where possessing a Bible could get you tossed into some hellhole of a prison. Or summarily executed.
And many risked their life to smuggle drugs into countries where possessing a drugs could get you tossed into some hellhole of a prison. Or summarily executed. So they can feed and house their family or village.

Jesus redeems people from every nation. His Spirit is His means of completing this task. He has no obligation to use a certain person or book. He sometimes does, yet He does this by many other means including direct personal revelation. Why do people, even Christians think that 66, 73, 81 or even a million scrolls that contain God's thoughts is all we need.

My Creator's thoughts, truths, words are far more than could ever be spoken, let alone written down.

The bibles are sooooo extremly limited and soooo far from being exhaustive.

The bibles possess some or few of the Creators thoughts but only a drop in the ocean compared to all the truth contained in His mind.
 
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I asked them, "What would become of your faith if you put your whole library out on the curb on trash day?"

That is exactly what they should do with their "library"...

Christian's dont need a library.....they just need a version that isn't the NIV, and they need, a (non NIV)...."bible promise" book that places the promises (verses) under "Topics".
 
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And many risked their life to smuggle drugs into countries where possessing a drugs could get you tossed into some hellhole of a prison. Or summarily executed. So they can feed and house their family or village.

Jesus redeems people from every nation. His Spirit is His means of completing this task. He has no obligation to use a certain person or book. He sometimes does, yet He does this by many other means including direct personal revelation. Why do people, even Christians think that 66, 73, 81 or even a million scrolls that contain God's thoughts is all we need.

My Creator's thoughts, truths, words are far more than could ever be spoken, let alone written down.

The bibles are sooooo extremly limited and soooo far from being exhaustive.

The bibles possess some or few of the Creators thoughts but only a drop in the ocean compared to all the truth contained in His mind.
 

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they just need a version that isn't the NIV
I'd rather they had an NIV that they can read than a KJV that they can't. Because if they can't, they won't.

I told the story about Ricky, right? We were having a Bible Study of Romans, and one of our members brought their next-door neighbor Ricky. (I'm sure Jesus approves of bringing your neighbors to Bible Study.) It was BYOB ("bring your own Bible), so Ricky brought her KJV. Now, Paul's writing is pretty dense anyways, Romans 3:21-27 particularly so, and Ricky was struggling horribly with the KJV's archaic language. As God's providence would have it, the study took place in the church basement and we had an ample supply of Bibles around. So we gave her an NIV, and her eyes lit up. She could understand God's plan of salvation.

Thank God for the NIV.
 

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I have encountered some that I thought had fallen into this trap.

Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author​


I asked them, "What would become of your faith if you put your whole library out on the curb on trash day?"
The guilty are left mostly speechless. Or, alternatively VERY angry. How come?

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Bibliolatry was a word invented by men who simply cannot overcome those who do speak biblical truth .
THUS in order to keep their followers following them and in order to recruit new followers for mo money
The response now is , OH ITS BIBLIOARTY . as JESUS said they cannot overcome the words of TRUTH .
Thus they will surely invent new words and teachings which makes it SEEM
as though those who learned that bible well , are in blasphemy . THE LESS folks exposing them
the more influence and power these folks can have . BE ENCOURAGED NOW .....................
 

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That is exactly what they should do with their "library"...

Christian's dont need a library.....they just need a version that isn't the NIV, and they need, a (non NIV)...."bible promise" book that places the promises (verses) under "Topics".

I have a pretty good testimony about my NIV Bible that my friend (I'll call him, Richard), Brother in Christ and study buddy bought me so we could study with the same version over the phone when his Wife wouldn't let him out!

It's a very nice bible and is big and large print and I have no other bible to compare to it. So one day a different Brother in Christ and friend (I'll call him Dave) (and work colleague) stopped by and noticed the bible right away, What'cha got? I got a nice NIV bible that Richard bought me.

Uh-oh he said, the NIV has a lot of missing verses in it and is not a good bible for a young Christian. So he proceeded to show me where missing verses were at and we'd look them in my KJV bible also to compare and confirm that it was a missing verse. We did this for about an hour and we looked up maybe 10 different verses and confirmed that they were not in the NIV bible. Dave has a good memory so he just knew what the missing verses were. Wow, maybe I should mention this to Richard?

SO fast forward a couple few weeks and I was on a christian forum and they had a thread about which version of the bible is best? So I thought to share my newfound knowledge about missing verses in the NIV and I posted it, and one of the boards most respected members replied to me and asked if I could give him a few examples of verses that the NIV was missing. I said, absolutely, I didn't write them down but I'll check with Dave and post back.

I called Dave on the phone and he said, sure, and rattled off 6 or 8 scripture references for me that I wrote down and then I let him go get back to work! I know all about christian forums so I figured I better make sure all my ducks were in a row and began double checking them between my NIV and my KJV to make sure I didnt post wrong information. The 1st one was in that NIV, huh. Dave must have mis-quoted the referennce to me, on to the next one...it was in there too! What's going on here did Dave have a brain fart? I looked them all up and all of them were in the NIV! I didn't really want to bug Dave at work again so I googled it and got about a Billion hits with loong lists of missing verses in the NIV!

I started looking them up one by one and it hit me like the Twilight Zone because every single one of the purported missing verses were in fact right there in my bible! How could I post the man examples when they were in there? I felt like an idiot and like I had no clue what I was talking about, missing verse!

But Dave and me Did look up many verses that were missing and they were missing. That was not a hallucination ! I sat there for over two hours looking verses up that were supposedly missing but they were not. I was exhausted and exasperated to say the least. So I closed my NIV bible in frustration and pushed it away from me on the table. I sank back in my seat and said, Lord what is going on here with all these bible verses?

And as I said that, my eyes went to my NIV bible that Richard had recently bought me and was on the table in front of me...and I saw the answer staring me in the face! Right on the side of my bible in big gold letters...New King James Version...

Now I felt like how a pinball machine feels when it goes (TILT). Richard bought me a NIV Bible and we had been using it and I had been underlining things and hi-lighting passages and so forth, so I started flipping thru it and my underlining and hi-lighting was all still there! I know that Richard bought me an NIV but right now it says NKJV and it dont have any missing verses! What can I think about this? And it hit me, that the Lord endorses the NKJV bibles nd changed my NIV into a NKJV!

When Richard gave me the bible as a gift, we talked about the NIV and that's what he had and he liked it so he bought me one like his. So Richard is a witness to this.

Now I know that me and Dave looked up missing verses in my new NIV bible, and Dave does too so Dave is a 2nd witness to this truth! We can verify it! In the mouths of two or three witnesses the truth is established.

So I knew that I already had all my ducks in a row and so I took my examples to the christian board and posted them for my Brother in Christ. And my testimony about how the Lord changed my bible into a NKJV bible so that's what took me so long to post examples, Lol!

I didn't pray for God to change my bible. I liked it. I admit, I like this NKJV better because Jesus endorsed it by changing it!

True story!
 
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Does the Bible represent all that God is, in one small portable package?
In the same way a travel brochure describes a beautiful destination.
But certainly not a replacement for being there.

(Dang, I miss that little green Gideon New Testament (and Psalms) that could fit in my shirt pocket. I wonder what happened to it?)
Your local Gideons could help. (or any church they visit)

Since work went casual, I rarely wear a shirt with a pocket anymore anyways.
Fits in a back pocket as well.

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I don’t have a library.

I have the Holy Bible.

The only book that matters.
stand firm and faithful my friend . never buy the lies of men .
The one thing in the way of deceptoin and delusion ,
the one thing in the way of those whose love is for power , control and influence
the one thing in the way of all whose love was for this world and their desires was for the god of self
IS THE TRUTH .
EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH . THE BIBLE IS LOADED WITH THOSE WORDS .
This flea witnessed something today .
There was a man in the laundry matt where i go to do my laundry .
God used that man to speak truth
The man was saying HOW the devil hates the gays , how he hates the muslim
how he hates the athiest , how he hates the sinner , the buddist
how he hates them , And that is why HE LIES TO THEM and tells them its okay to do such things .
That man was lit up by GOD . the man is nothing , he knew and knows he is nothing
HE kept talking about HOW there is none who is good
dont buy the lies of men who say there are good people in all religoins
dont buy the lies that say we are not to correct those in error .
Satan desires that . HE wants all dead .
BUT GOD DESIRES The death of none , SO HE DID send the SON that all who do BELIEVE could be saved , could have eternal life .
That man cannot save himself . But that he KNEW AND KNOWS WHO can . JESUS CAN .
WE must believe on HIM . we must learn our bibles well .
There were many things that man said as HE pointed ONLY to GOD , only to CHRIST
only to the TRUTH .
WE MUST stay in the bible to learn and be refreshed . Now that man , HE knows he too is not anything .
GOD simply lit that man up and HE spoke the truth for all to hear . STAY in the bible , BIBOLATRY
is but the teaching of satan and his men who cannot overcome the truth
SO they have to make us who speak the truth who stay in the bible appear as we worship a book .
BUT I MUST remind us all , I MAKE no apologies for loving that book . HEY GOD INSPIRED IT .
HIS WORD is truth , HIS WORDS are truth . TO THE TRENCHES for the whore has many daughters and children who do her work .
WE SHEEP wont heed a word one outta they mouths either .
 

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As I understand it, Elohim refers to all the gods. The God we serve is the primary, or highest god. (elohim)
I don't think that's quite right. There are some several categories of gods, some of which are hostile to the Elohim, or compete with them.

Elohim isn't ALL gods, but it's the most significant group of gods in the Bronze Age Levant, taking in all the "Sons of God" which includes deified kings and ancestors.
 
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I believe it's a conspiracy since they did deliberately decide to translate and publish the Bible the way it is in the majority of English versions. The strategy is to at least muddy the waters.
It's not a conspiracy, and it's not just in English translations. It's a result of following an overly pious Jewish tradition. The Jews stopped speaking the name of the LORD, supposedly out of reverence, sometime in the late Iron Age. This eventually spilled over into writing as well - people stopped writing His name. This was already true by the time the Old Testament was translated into the Greek (the LXX), where His name is routinely translated as Adonai. It's this way in the New Testament as well.

Truth seekers will eventually find with certainty that the Lord is not equal to the LORD.

Psalm 110
1{A Psalm of David.}
The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit thou at my right hand,
until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Agreed
 

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the same st steven who is accuses us of bibloarty
YOU SHOULD SEE what he now teaches on another thread . its looking real bad my friend .
seems like hindus and all other religoins be okay . the man is an inclusivian of the order .
No wonder he uses words like biblolarty . the truth in scrips expose him . its titled good people go to heaven
etc . YOU GO and BEHOLD what he says . The gospel is under attack .