tailgator
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Why?Copy and paste the verse that says ""The man clothed in linen puts it there."
Is it because you don't know the word of God ,Doug?
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Why?Copy and paste the verse that says ""The man clothed in linen puts it there."
Just copy and paste the verse that says ""The man clothed in linen puts it there."Why?
Is it because you don't know the word of God ,Doug?
Ezekiel 38-39 the Gog/Magog event has not happened yet. But it appears as though Trump and Israel are making a concentrated effort in putting Hamas out of business. So that is how close to Gog/Magog is.Ezekiel 38
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
These are some of the people Doug claims are safe.
Doug says all of them are safe just like Ezekiel 38 says.
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Hamas says Kfir and Ariel Bibas, 2 and 5, and their mom are dead, and their bodies will be sent back to Israel this week
Hamas’ youngest hostages, Kfir and Ariel Bibas, 2 and 5, and their mother are dead and their bodies will be returned to Israel this week, the terror group said in ghoulish announcement on Tuesday.…nypost.com
You sure about that Doug?
You sure all.of the people in Israel today dwell safely?
All of them?
Ezekiel 38Ezekiel 38-39 the Gog/Magog event has not happened yet. But it appears as though Trump and Israel are making a concentrated effort in putting Hamas out of business. So that is how close to Gog/Magog is.
But before Gog/Magog, the little horn person must be revealed who he is. So a lot of things could be happening soon.
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You are repeating yourself. I already responded in my post #244.Ezekiel 38
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
These are some of the people Doug claims are safe.
Doug says all of them are safe just like Ezekiel 38 says.
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Hamas says Kfir and Ariel Bibas, 2 and 5, and their mom are dead, and their bodies will be sent back to Israel this week
Hamas’ youngest hostages, Kfir and Ariel Bibas, 2 and 5, and their mother are dead and their bodies will be returned to Israel this week, the terror group said in ghoulish announcement on Tuesday.…
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You sure about that Doug?
You sure all.of the people in Israel today dwell safely?
All of them?
You just said Ezekiel 38 is present day IsraelRead Ezekiel 38:8 and Ezekiel 38:16 as to when the Gog/Magog event takes place. It is talking about present day Israel.
You are repeating yourself.You just said Ezekiel 38 is present day Israel
You claim everyone in Israel dwells safely.
Tell me why these children died since you claim.they dwell safely ,all of them
It is present day Israel because the Jews taking part in its May 14, 1948 re-establishment have come out of the nations. Also, in 1967, Jerusalem came back into the hands of the Jews.Somebody lied when they said this verse is present day Israel.
No one in present day Israel dwells safely.
Not one.
Peace and Safety for Humans from a Spirit God “is Spiritual Peace and Safety.”
Yes, that applies to Believers alike JEWS and GENTLES.
Humans habitat Earth (dwelling place) is full of chaos, turmoil, tribulations of humans against humans, and will eventually be defeated, along with the end of mortality.
Glory to God,
Taken
My friend believes as you do about the rapture and he wrote a book about it, he studied for yearsIf you've read popular books written by the Pre-trib Rapture theory authors like Hal Lindsay and Tim LaHaye, then you're probably familiar with all the chaos and war and famine, and destruction, etc., that they teach the coming "great tribulation" is going to be like.
But did you not know that God's Word instead reveals the future time of "great tribulation" is going to be a time of WORLD PEACE? (that is, for the deceived it will be).
Tim LaHaye wrote a Left-Behind books series, something like 13 books, which were used to make movies with also. And it's all about the sudden disappearance of the Church, while everyone else is left behind, and wondering what happened to those raptured folks!
Did you even know that some airline companies have a policy for their pilots, that if one pilot is a Christian, then the other pilot must not be? That's in case of the rapture while in flight, there will still be someone left-behind to fly the airplane, they think! Crazy! Oh but I'm sure Lindsay and LaHaye loved that idea.
Those of us in Christ Jesus who actually do... listen to Him in HIS Word, don't have to worry about any of those 'scare' tactics pushed by those on man's false pre-trib rapture theory. That because there are no such rapture ideas written of PRIOR to the "great tribulation". Instead Lord Jesus revealed His coming to gather His Church will be AFTER... the "great tribulation", not before it (Matthew 24:29-31; Mark 13:24-27). Apostle Paul taught the same timing of Christ's future coming and His gathering His Church, to be after that "man of sin" of 2 Thessalonians 2 is revealed, with Jesus destroying him with the brightness of His coming.
In our Lord Jesus' Olivet discourse, while He was upon the Mount of Olives with His disciples, He revealed events like nation against nation, war, famines, pestilences, earthquakes, etc., and then He said those things were "the beginning of sorrows" (Matthew 24:6-8). But He did not say those things will be for the time of "great tribulation".
I know, I know, just the phrase "great tribulation" sounds like that time of "the beginning of sorrows" ought to be the "great tribulation", but it is not what defines what the coming "great tribulation" will be like. It will be a time of great tests upon the Church, I'm not denying that.
But Lord Jesus gave us a clue in the following, revealing a tidbit of what 'kind'... of time the "great tribulation" will actually be...
Matt 24:6
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
KJV
How many times have you heard pre-trib rapture preaches quote the above verse in blue, but leave out that last phrase in red? What's that phrase in red about?
I can't remember in English grammar what it's called, but that last phrase in red above is the OPPOSITE IDEA of that "wars and rumors of wars". That means ALL... wars will have stopped, and instead it means a time of WORLD PEACE.
I got both yours and tailgaters points.John 14;
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
The peace Jesus gives believers is peace of mind and heart that they are right with God knowing that they have been forgiven and atoned for of their sins by the power of his shed blood on the cross, and have eternal life, by the grace, mercy, and Love of God. And the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, living in the souls of believers, testifying of God's Love and Truth.
I am sure that @tailgator agrees with that. But what we were discussing is the condition of the people in Israel as a whole feeling that they are living in a safe and peaceful society. He was pointing out that terrorism in Israel detracts from that feeling.
While I was pointing out the dynamics of reaching that condition that precedes Gog/Magog appears to be enhanced by Trump's and Israel's efforts to put Hamas and other terrorist groups out of business.
FalseYou are repeating yourself.
Your point is that all of the people in Israel are not living in safety because of terrorism.
And I am responding that Trump and Israel are making a concentrated effort to put Hamas out of business. Which if successful, the terrorism will stop and the condition for Ezekiel 38-39 will be at hand.
Didn't Trump recently get some sort of peace award by some Israeli group ?
And I also saying that before the Gog/Magog event, the little horn person must be revealed who he is by becoming the leader over a panel of ten EU leaders.
So that is two things to watch for, that could be happening soon.
The people who come out of their graves in Ezekiel 37 have Messiah reigning over them.It is present day Israel because the Jews taking part in its May 14, 1948 re-establishment have come out of the nations. Also, in 1967, Jerusalem came back into the hands of the Jews.
It's a lie to say these people dwelt safely in Israel.Peace and Safety for Humans from a Spirit God “is Spiritual Peace and Safety.”
Yes, that applies to Believers alike JEWS and GENTLES.
Humans habitat Earth (dwelling place) is full of chaos, turmoil, tribulations of humans against humans, and will eventually be defeated, along with the end of mortality.
Glory to God,
Taken
I did not say Trump will "save" Israel.False
Trump will not save Israel as you claim.
Jesus returns before the parable of the fig tree generation passes away. The fig tree represents Jerusalem.The people who come out of their graves in Ezekiel 37 have Messiah reigning over them.
Ezekiel 37 takes place before Ezekiel 39.I did not say Trump will "save" Israel.
Jesus returns before the parable of the fig tree generation passes away. The fig tree represents Jerusalem.
1967 + 70 years = 2037 sometime before then. So minus 7 years is 2030 that the Gog/Magog event will happen before the end of 2030.
Jesus return is in Ezekiel 39:21-29. Have your read Ezekiel 39 yet ? Ezekiel 39:17-20 is the feast of Revelation 19:17-18. Go read those.
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Part of Ezekiel 37 has taken place. Israel a nation again in the land of Israel.Ezekiel 37 takes place before Ezekiel 39.
Jesus comes and raises the dead in Ezekiel 37. The dead are brought up out of their graves and brought into the land of Israel.