14 IRRESOLVABLE CONTRADICTIONS WHICH RESULT FROM A LITERAL RICH MAN AND LAZARUS

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BY CORRECTLY CONCLUDING that the story of Rich Man and Lazarus is a parable, we maintain Scriptural harmony, discern a valuable lesson from its interpretation, and put an end to its illegitimate use as a "proof text" for the doctrine of Eternal Torment - because any Bible scholar worth his salt knows we can't substantiate a doctrine on an uninterpreted parable. Here are 14 irresolvable contradictions which result from attempts to make the passage literal:

1. DISEMBODIED BODIES?
The Eternal Torment crowd claims when a person dies his body is buried, but “his disembodied soul" leaves this world to points beyond without a body - so, why do the Rich Man, Lazarus, and Abraham have eyes, fingers, tongues, bosoms, legs to carry a warning, etc.? Obviously, "disembodied souls" by definition do not have bodies, and thus can't have eyes, tongues, fingers, bosoms, etc.

Now, before anyone jumps to any conclusions, we need to remember that 2 Corinthians 5:1 KJV plainly identifies only two types of bodies - the mortal and the resurrection - and that's the only two types of bodies God's Bible knows about. There's no mention in Scripture of any third type “interim body” for the dead prior to the resurrection, so extra-Biblical ideas about a "disembodied body" or "ghost body" or "temporary body" are pure fiction and warrant no consideration whatsoever.

2. ABRAHAM'S LITERAL BOSOM?
Lazarus was carried “into Abraham's bosom" - are we to believe all the righteous dead up until that time have been carried into Abraham's literal bosom? How big can Abraham's bosom be?

Now, those who claim “Abraham's Bosom” is a literal, actual name for “heaven” or “paradise” need to read Luke 16:23 KJV which says the Rich Man sees Abraham afar off and Lazarus "in his bosom” - in the bosom of the man himself - which is physiological, not geographical.

3. LYING EYES?
The Rich Man is able to see “Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom” aka “place of comfort” aka “the kingdom” - but Jesus Himself said the wicked won't see the righteous in the kingdom until the end, in the Judgment, when the wicked are told to “depart”. Yet, here we find Lazarus and Abraham in full view of the Rich Man.

Now, for those who claim these dead guys are actually in some supposed “holding chamber” next door to hell called “paradise” (now that we've seen “Abraham's Bosom” is a purely fictitious place), we must remember that “paradise” is easily shown from the Scriptures themselves to be where God is up there, not anywhere near hell down here.

4. THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANYTHING
(Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV; Job 14:21 KJV; Psalm 146:4 KJV)

These dead guys sure seem to know a whole lot for people who aren't supposed to know anything.

5. THE DEAD DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING
(Psalms 6:5 KJV; Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV; Psalms 88:12 KJV)

These dead guys are sure able to remember a whole lot for people who aren't supposed to remember anything.

6. THE DEAD DON'T HAVE EMOTIONS
(Ecclesiastes 9:6 KJV; Proverbs 10:28 KJV)

These dead guys do a great job of demonstrating loving concern and also condescending disdain for people who aren't supposed to be able to have emotions.

7. THE DEAD DON'T PERFORM WORK
(Ecclesiastes 9:10 KJV; John 9:4 KJV)

The dead Rich Man mustn't have gotten the memo that Lazarus had finished his shift and clocked out - permanently.

8. THE DEAD DON'T DEVISE ANYTHING
(Ecclesiastes 9:10 KJV)

The dead Rich Man was well able to devise a plan to warn his brothers for someone unable to do so.

9. THE DEAD DON'T HAVE WISDOM
(Ecclesiastes 9:10 KJV; Proverbs 2:6 KJV)

Dead Abraham was well able give wise testimony about the convicting power of the Word of God for someone unable to do so.

10. THE DEAD DON'T PRAISE GOD
(Isaiah 38:18 KJV; Psalms 115:17 KJV; Psalms 88:11 KJV)

Dead Abraham sure spoke highly of God's Word for someone unable to do so.

11. THE DEAD ARE IN DARKNESS
(Psalms 88:12 KJV; Job 10:21-22 KJV)

These dead guys must all have been wearing night vision goggles to see through all that darkness.

12. THE DEAD ARE IN SILENCE
(Psalms 115:17 KJV; Psalm 31:17 KJV)

These dead guys were loud enough to wake the rest of the dead what with all that shouting back and forth at each other across that great gulf.

13. THE DEAD ARE ASLEEP
(Psalms 13:3 KJV; Ephesians 5:14 KJV; John 11:11-14 KJV)

These dead guys are fully awake and aware of their surroundings, especially the thirsty guy whose completely engulfed in flames of torment.

14. THE DEAD ARE RESERVED FOR FUTURE TORMENT
(2 Peter 2:9 KJV; Revelation 20:10 KJV)

The dead Rich Man must have been pretty bad to find himself immediately in flames of torment since God Himself says He's “reserved the unjust unto the day of Judgment to be punished”.
 

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1. DISEMBODIED BODIES?
The Eternal Torment crowd claims when a person dies his body is buried, but “his disembodied soul" leaves this world to points beyond without a body - so, why do the Rich Man, Lazarus, and Abraham have eyes, fingers, tongues, bosoms, legs to carry a warning, etc.? Obviously, "disembodied souls" by definition do not have bodies, and thus can't have eyes, tongues, fingers, bosoms, etc.
Phenomenal language = Speaking in terms of the experience of what is happening. They perceive themselves in the same form as they were once in.

2. ABRAHAM'S LITERAL BOSOM?
Lazarus was carried “into Abraham's bosom" - are we to believe all the righteous dead up until that time have been carried into Abraham's literal bosom? How big can Abraham's bosom be?
Seriously an objection? A place named this, while not meaning in the man's actual rib cage? I was going to answer these, but not if they're going to be like this.

So nevermind.

Much love!
 
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the story of Rich Man and Lazarus is a parable

ok dokey.... we;ll count you among those that believe Jesus lied.

Luke 16:19

There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:


Jesus specifically said "There was a certain rich man" indicating He was speaking of the experiences of an actual real life person.

Claiming and believing Jesus was a liar.... ends very badly as you will find out
 

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Jesus specifically said "There was a certain rich man" indicating He was speaking of the experiences of an actual real life person.
The Greek "tis" could also be translated as "some".

"There was some rich man..." Has a "Once upon a time" feel to it, doesn't it?
 

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Jesus specifically said "There was a certain rich man" indicating He was speaking of the experiences of an actual real life person.
Jesus used the same phrase in many other parables - were they actual people and factual stories too?!

The parable of the good Samaritan, Luke 10:30 (WEB):

(30) Jesus answered, “A certain man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and he fell among robbers, who both stripped him and beat him, and departed, leaving him half dead.​

The parable of the rich fool, Luke 12:16 (WEB):

(16) He spoke a parable to them, saying, “The ground of a certain rich man produced abundantly.​

The parable of the barren fig tree, Luke 13:6 (WEB):

(6) He spoke this parable. “A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it, and found none.​

The parable of the great banquet, Luke 14:16 (WEB):

(16) But he said to him, “A certain man made a great supper, and he invited many people.​

The parable of the prodigal son, Luke 15:11 (WEB):

(11) He said, “A certain man had two sons.​

The parable of the dishonest manager - this is in the same chapter, just before the rich man and Lazarus parable, Luke 16:1 (WEB):

(1) He also said to his disciples, “There was a certain rich man who had a manager. An accusation was made to him that this man was wasting his possessions.​

Jesus spoke plainly to his disciples, but to everyone else he spoke in parables, as in the case of the rich man and Lazarus parable (spoken to the Pharisees). Mark 4:11-13 (WEB):

(11) He said to them, “To you is given the mystery of God’s Kingdom, but to those who are outside, all things are done in parables,​
(12) that ‘seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest perhaps they should turn again, and their sins should be forgiven them.’”​
(13) He said to them, “Don’t you understand this parable? How will you understand all of the parables?​
 
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Phenomenal language = Speaking in terms of the experience of what is happening. They perceive themselves in the same form as they were once in.
The parable was from the perception of Jesus, not the characters in it, right or wrong? Jesus Himself said these dead people - who dropped off mortal bodies in death but are yet to receive immortal resurrection bodies - had eyes, fingers, tongues, bosoms, legs to carry a warning, etc.

Understand?

Since the Bible only recognizes the mortal and the resurrection body, the fact that these characters are said to have bodies proves it's a parable and making it otherwise contradicts Scripture.
Seriously an objection? A place named this, while not meaning in the man's actual rib cage? I was going to answer these, but not if they're going to be like this.

So nevermind.

Much love!
Did you miss the part where Jesus said Lazarus was carried "into the bosom of Abraham" which denotes anatomy - not geography?

Jesus deliberately used both references - "Abraham's bosom" and "into the bosom of Abraham" - so people would not get confused and think "Abraham's bosom" was an actual geographical location on some spirit world map, yet you guys still managed to get confused!
 

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I agree that the rich man and Lazarus story is fiction but what do you make of the spiritual like body of Samson in the story with the necromancer?
 

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ok dokey.... we;ll count you among those that believe Jesus lied.

Luke 16:19

There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:


Jesus specifically said "There was a certain rich man" indicating He was speaking of the experiences of an actual real life person.

Claiming and believing Jesus was a liar.... ends very badly as you will find out
And we'll count you among those who check their brains at the door when they walk in church.

All scholars agree the "certain man that had two sons" is a parable about how God accepts all who repent.
All scholars agree the "certain man who had a great supper" is a parable about the Gospel invitation.

The "certain rich man" is a parable warning impenitent Jews the church will be given the Great Commission.
 
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I agree that the rich man and Lazarus story is fiction but what do you make of the spiritual like body of Samson in the story with the necromancer?
I think you mean the apparition of "Samuel" - the Bible evidence demands this apparition is nothing more than a demonic "familiar spirit" deception aka "a spirit appearing as a dead person familiar to us". Let's examine the evidence:

"Bring me up Samuel...I saw gods ascending out of the earth." - Witch of Endor
("Samuel" was seen coming up and ascending from below instead of down and descending from heaven)

"The dead know not anything" - Solomon
("Samuel" knew who Saul was and that he and his sons would shortly die)

"There is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave..." - Solomon
("Samuel" certainly displayed knowledge and wisdom while appearing to Saul and company)

"Also, their love, their hatred, their envy is perished..." - Solomon
("Samuel" was very annoyed for having been "brought up")

"Neither have they a portion anymore of anything that is done under the sun..." - Solomon
("Samuel" absolutely was involved in the affairs of Saul during his appearing)

"He shall return no more to his house." - Job
(This "Samuel" returned to communicate with Saul)

"His sons come to honor and he knoweth it not, they are brought low and he perceiveth it not" - Job
("Samuel" was obviously well abreast of the state of affairs of Saul and his sons)

"So Saul died...for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit". - Ezra? in 1 Chronicles 10
("Familiar spirits" are directly correlated to witchcraft in Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Isaiah, and 2 Kings)

I realize dishonest scholars cast aside all this above evidence and argue, "The Bible refers to the apparition as Samuel so that proves it was actually Samuel" while ignoring that the reason for doing so can just as well be that the apparition took the familiar form of Samuel, hence, "a familiar spirit". It's patently obvious the reason God didn't want us talking to familiar spirits is because they are demons with which we are wholly unequipped and incapable of matching wits.
 

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Hello @Phoneman777,

He was around the Pharisees when he shared to "story," yes it was a parable.
Yes, that's why is says "and when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard His parables, they perceived that He spoke of them".

When they heard Jesus say the Rich Man cried "Father Abraham" and Abraham say "son" - they knew exactly who the Rich Man represented.

When they heard Lazarus was outside with "dogs" - they knew exactly what kind of "dogs" he represented.

And when they heard Lazarus wound up in "Abraham's bosom" - well, that cannot be! Pfffft! We JEWS wind up in torment and the filthy GENTILES take our place? Cannot be!
 

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I think you mean the apparition of "Samuel" - the Bible evidence demands this apparition is nothing more than a demonic "familiar spirit" deception aka "a spirit appearing as a dead person familiar to us". Let's examine the evidence:

"Bring me up Samuel...I saw gods ascending out of the earth." - Witch of Endor
("Samuel" was seen coming up and ascending from below instead of down and descending from heaven)

"The dead know not anything" - Solomon
("Samuel" knew who Saul was and that he and his sons would shortly die)

"There is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave..." - Solomon
("Samuel" certainly displayed knowledge and wisdom while appearing to Saul and company)

"Also, their love, their hatred, their envy is perished..." - Solomon
("Samuel" was very annoyed for having been "brought up")

"Neither have they a portion anymore of anything that is done under the sun..." - Solomon
("Samuel" absolutely was involved in the affairs of Saul during his appearing)

"He shall return no more to his house." - Job
(This "Samuel" returned to communicate with Saul)

"His sons come to honor and he knoweth it not, they are brought low and he perceiveth it not" - Job
("Samuel" was obviously well abreast of the state of affairs of Saul and his sons)

"So Saul died...for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit". - Ezra? in 1 Chronicles 10
("Familiar spirits" are directly correlated to witchcraft in Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Isaiah, and 2 Kings)

I realize dishonest scholars cast aside all this above evidence and argue, "The Bible refers to the apparition as Samuel so that proves it was actually Samuel" while ignoring that the reason for doing so can just as well be that the apparition took the familiar form of Samuel, hence, "a familiar spirit". It's patently obvious the reason God didn't want us talking to familiar spirits is because they are demons with which we are wholly unequipped and incapable of matching wits.
So nothing in the story indicates it was anything but Samuel. There is not any context for the story being about a demonic apparition pretending to be Samuel.

The from above argument makes no sense. Ancient Jews did not believe that when you died your spirit rose to heaven. They believed that you went to Abraham’s bosom which is the grave. Ancient Jews were split up into different sects. Some believe that spirits went to the grave and was a shade of their precious life. Sheol, and etc… some believed that you went to sleep and remained asleep in death until the resurrection. This eventually led to the Jewish sects of Sadducees and Pharisees.
 

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Jesus never used real names in parables. This is a true story. Do not go to the old testament for scriptures, because in the new testament Jesus set the captives free. Jesus is the first fruit of the resurrection, and all others who are in Jesus are resurrected also.
 

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So nothing in the story indicates it was anything but Samuel. There is not any context for the story being about a demonic apparition pretending to be Samuel.
That's why we have to look beyond the story and employ the only Biblically sanctioned method of study, which is "line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little" in Isaiah 28.

Or, we can shut our eyes, stop or ears, and focus only on this passage in 1 Samuel. Which does God prefer?
The from above argument makes no sense. Ancient Jews did not believe that when you died your spirit rose to heaven. They believed that you went to Abraham’s bosom which is the grave. Ancient Jews were split up into different sects. Some believe that spirits went to the grave and was a shade of their precious life. Sheol, and etc… some believed that you went to sleep and remained asleep in death until the resurrection. This eventually led to the Jewish sects of Sadducees and Pharisees.
We don't base or beliefs on corrupted ancient Jewish ideas, friend. Did not the Jews believe the Messiah would come as a roaring lion and crucify Him for coming as a lamb?

And, doesn't the entire Christian world believe He's coming back as quiet little lamb, sneaking into town and sneaking out with the saints when the Bible plainly says He's coming back as the mighty Lion of Judah?
 

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Jesus never used real names in parables. This is a true story. Do not go to the old testament for scriptures, because in the new testament Jesus set the captives free. Jesus is the first fruit of the resurrection, and all others who are in Jesus are resurrected also.
Yes, let's ignore the 14 irresolvable contradictions which arise by making the passage literal instead of considering that the reason Jesus used the proper name "Lazarus" in the parable was so that very soon, when the real Lazarus would be raised from the dead 4 days later - AND THE JEWS WOULD GO AWAY TO TAKE COUNSEL HOW TO KILL JESUS AND LAZARUS TOO - the people would say, "He was right! They refused to believe in Him, though one rose from the dead!"

Yeah, that's not the reason He used the name "Lazarus" at all, right?
 
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1. DISEMBODIED BODIES?
The Eternal Torment crowd claims when a person dies his body is buried, but “his disembodied soul" leaves this world to points beyond without a body - so, why do the Rich Man, Lazarus, and Abraham have eyes, fingers, tongues, bosoms, legs to carry a warning, etc.? Obviously, "disembodied souls" by definition do not have bodies, and thus can't have eyes, tongues, fingers, bosoms, etc.

Now, before anyone jumps to any conclusions, we need to remember that 2 Corinthians 5:1 KJV plainly identifies only two types of bodies - the mortal and the resurrection - and that's the only two types of bodies God's Bible knows about. There's no mention in Scripture of any third type “interim body” for the dead prior to the resurrection, so extra-Biblical ideas about a "disembodied body" or "ghost body" or "temporary body" are pure fiction and warrant no consideration whatsoever.

No such thing as a Disembodied body.

Disembodied SOUL….
is a LIVING soul, that occupied “A” body and has DEPARTED OUT OF “IT’S” “physically Dead” Body.

A Living SOUL “in or out” of it’s body, Has the same “identification”….NAME…given the “individual” body.

A Living SOUL “IN” a body…”MAKES” the body’s….
Eyes….have the ability to See
Ears….have the ability to Hear
Nose…have the ability to Smell
Tongue…have the ability to Taste
Mouth/Tongue have the ability to utter sound
Flesh …have the ability to FEEL Touch.

A Living SOUL “DEPARTED OUT” of it’s body….
Continues having the ability to See.
Continues having the ability to Hear.
Continues having the ability to Smell.
Continues having the ability to Taste.
Continues having the ability to Utter sounds
Continues having the ability to Feel.

“Departed Souls” ARE entities THAT DO NOT REQUIRE A BODY, to see, hear, smell, taste, utter sounds or feel.

Glory to God,
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No such thing as a Disembodied body.

Disembodied SOUL….
is a LIVING soul, that occupied “A” body and has DEPARTED OUT OF “IT’S” “physically Dead” Body.

A Living SOUL “in or out” of it’s body, Has the same “identification”….NAME…given the “individual” body.

A Living SOUL “IN” a body…”MAKES” the body’s….
Eyes….have the ability to See
Ears….have the ability to Hear
Nose…have the ability to Smell
Tongue…have the ability to Taste
Mouth/Tongue have the ability to utter sound
Flesh …have the ability to FEEL Touch.

A Living SOUL “DEPARTED OUT” of it’s body….
Continues having the ability to See.
Continues having the ability to Hear.
Continues having the ability to Smell.
Continues having the ability to Taste.
Continues having the ability to Utter sounds
Continues having the ability to Feel.

“Departed Souls” ARE entities THAT DO NOT REQUIRE A BODY, to see, hear, smell, taste, utter sounds or feel.

Glory to God,
Taken
Where do you get the idea that a "soul" is "in" a body?

According to Genesis 2:7 KJV, the "Soul" comes into existence as a consequence of the union of the Body and the Breath of Life...understand?

Body + Breath of Life = Living Soul (Soul commences to exist)
Body - Breath of Life = Dead Soul (Soul ceases to exist)

Bulb + Electricity = Light (Light begins to exist)
Buld - Electricity = No Light (Light ceases to exist)

When the Breath of Life returns to God and the Body returns to dust, the Soul ceases to be, period. That's why we never read about an "immortal soul" in Scripture...not one single instance.
 

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BY CORRECTLY CONCLUDING that the story of Rich Man and Lazarus is a parable, we maintain Scriptural harmony, discern a valuable lesson from its interpretation, and put an end to its illegitimate use as a "proof text" for the doctrine of Eternal Torment - because any Bible scholar worth his salt knows we can't substantiate a doctrine on an uninterpreted parable. Here are 14 irresolvable contradictions which result from attempts to make the passage literal:

1. DISEMBODIED BODIES?
The Eternal Torment crowd claims when a person dies his body is buried, but “his disembodied soul" leaves this world to points beyond without a body - so, why do the Rich Man, Lazarus, and Abraham have eyes, fingers, tongues, bosoms, legs to carry a warning, etc.? Obviously, "disembodied souls" by definition do not have bodies, and thus can't have eyes, tongues, fingers, bosoms, etc.

Now, before anyone jumps to any conclusions, we need to remember that 2 Corinthians 5:1 KJV plainly identifies only two types of bodies - the mortal and the resurrection - and that's the only two types of bodies God's Bible knows about. There's no mention in Scripture of any third type “interim body” for the dead prior to the resurrection, so extra-Biblical ideas about a "disembodied body" or "ghost body" or "temporary body" are pure fiction and warrant no consideration whatsoever.

2. ABRAHAM'S LITERAL BOSOM?
Lazarus was carried “into Abraham's bosom" - are we to believe all the righteous dead up until that time have been carried into Abraham's literal bosom? How big can Abraham's bosom be?

Now, those who claim “Abraham's Bosom” is a literal, actual name for “heaven” or “paradise” need to read Luke 16:23 KJV which says the Rich Man sees Abraham afar off and Lazarus "in his bosom” - in the bosom of the man himself - which is physiological, not geographical.

3. LYING EYES?
The Rich Man is able to see “Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom” aka “place of comfort” aka “the kingdom” - but Jesus Himself said the wicked won't see the righteous in the kingdom until the end, in the Judgment, when the wicked are told to “depart”. Yet, here we find Lazarus and Abraham in full view of the Rich Man.

Now, for those who claim these dead guys are actually in some supposed “holding chamber” next door to hell called “paradise” (now that we've seen “Abraham's Bosom” is a purely fictitious place), we must remember that “paradise” is easily shown from the Scriptures themselves to be where God is up there, not anywhere near hell down here.

4. THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANYTHING
(Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV; Job 14:21 KJV; Psalm 146:4 KJV)

These dead guys sure seem to know a whole lot for people who aren't supposed to know anything.

5. THE DEAD DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING
(Psalms 6:5 KJV; Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV; Psalms 88:12 KJV)

These dead guys are sure able to remember a whole lot for people who aren't supposed to remember anything.

6. THE DEAD DON'T HAVE EMOTIONS
(Ecclesiastes 9:6 KJV; Proverbs 10:28 KJV)

These dead guys do a great job of demonstrating loving concern and also condescending disdain for people who aren't supposed to be able to have emotions.

7. THE DEAD DON'T PERFORM WORK
(Ecclesiastes 9:10 KJV; John 9:4 KJV)

The dead Rich Man mustn't have gotten the memo that Lazarus had finished his shift and clocked out - permanently.

8. THE DEAD DON'T DEVISE ANYTHING
(Ecclesiastes 9:10 KJV)

The dead Rich Man was well able to devise a plan to warn his brothers for someone unable to do so.

9. THE DEAD DON'T HAVE WISDOM
(Ecclesiastes 9:10 KJV; Proverbs 2:6 KJV)

Dead Abraham was well able give wise testimony about the convicting power of the Word of God for someone unable to do so.

10. THE DEAD DON'T PRAISE GOD
(Isaiah 38:18 KJV; Psalms 115:17 KJV; Psalms 88:11 KJV)

Dead Abraham sure spoke highly of God's Word for someone unable to do so.

11. THE DEAD ARE IN DARKNESS
(Psalms 88:12 KJV; Job 10:21-22 KJV)

These dead guys must all have been wearing night vision goggles to see through all that darkness.

12. THE DEAD ARE IN SILENCE
(Psalms 115:17 KJV; Psalm 31:17 KJV)

These dead guys were loud enough to wake the rest of the dead what with all that shouting back and forth at each other across that great gulf.

13. THE DEAD ARE ASLEEP
(Psalms 13:3 KJV; Ephesians 5:14 KJV; John 11:11-14 KJV)

These dead guys are fully awake and aware of their surroundings, especially the thirsty guy whose completely engulfed in flames of torment.

14. THE DEAD ARE RESERVED FOR FUTURE TORMENT
(2 Peter 2:9 KJV; Revelation 20:10 KJV)

The dead Rich Man must have been pretty bad to find himself immediately in flames of torment since God Himself says He's “reserved the unjust unto the day of Judgment to be punished”.

You noticed that huh? I did too. To some extent at least. What I concluded after pondering it and praying about it was this:

It is indeed a Parable, however, it illustrates very important Biblical Truths and biblical principles. What does it show us in that parable?

They have their five senses. They can feel thirst, they can see and smell and all that stuff.

It is very uncomfortable for them. They souls in there now are all awaiting judgment. They stay there in their temporary holding place until the great white throne judgment. After which they go into the Lake of fire.

After Jesus died on the cross, He set the captives free and they are no longer going there. Jesus came and paid the price to rescue them. Now when Believers die, absent from the body means present with the Lord!

The Lord told me one time that the reason for the increased Volcanic activity all around the globe and tectonic plates shifting around giving us earthquakes and all that is because it is late in the age and people have been dying for a long time now and hell has had to expand to house them all! So no wonder more earthquakes and volcanos erupting is happening everywhere. So they are expanding hell underneath the surface of the earth.

Whoa.
 

Rockerduck

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Yes, let's ignore the 14 irresolvable contradictions which arise by making the passage literal instead of considering that the reason Jesus used the proper name "Lazarus" in the parable was so that very soon, when the real Lazarus would be raised from the dead 4 days later - AND THE JEWS WOULD GO AWAY TO TAKE COUNSEL HOW TO KILL JESUS AND LAZARUS TOO - the people would say, "He was right! They refused to believe in Him, though one rose from the dead!"

Yeah, that's not the reason He used the name "Lazarus" at all, right?
There were others named Lazarus too. Plenty of Joseph's and Mary's, and Jacob's. Its a fact, that Jesus didn't use real names in Parables. Its a real story.
 

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Jesus never used real names in parables. This is a true story. Do not go to the old testament for scriptures, because in the new testament Jesus set the captives free. Jesus is the first fruit of the resurrection, and all others who are in Jesus are resurrected also.

I think it has to be a parable. What is the rich man's name?

But it spells out a spiritual reality and biblical principles, so it is very true.
 
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