Once Saved Always Saved

[justbyfaith]

No kidding. RAPTURE!

So, all of the people who are left behind, you are saying that they rejected Christ at some point and therefore had their names blotted out of God's Book?

 

[Michiah-Imla]

You are not fooling me or any of my brothers and sisters in Christ on this forum.

You have been fooled for a long time my friend.

So much so that the technical jargon of the original languages appeals to you more than plain scriptures.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

@mailmandan

When you study the scriptures with an assumption in mind, you will always walk away strengthened in that assumption.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

This is what happens when you attempt to correct a mob of Once Saved Always Saved cultists.

God help us!

 

[Ferris Bueller]

ONCE - you ARE SAVED -
NOTHING can MAKE a man NOT SAVED.

Not one person has REVEALED ONE SCRIPTURE of any person BEING SAVED, and then being made "unsaved".

But there are several scriptures that tell us to keep believing.

 

[mailmandan]

You have been fooled for a long time my friend.

So much so that the technical jargon of the original languages appeals to you more than plain scriptures.

You were fooled while on the Christian Chat site and you remain fooled on this forum as well.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

John 10:
[28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
[29] My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Who is Jesus talking about?

 

[Michiah-Imla]

You were fooled while on the Christian Chat site and you remain fooled on this forum as well.

We aren’t getting anywhere.

I wave the flag of peace.

Blessings to you @mailmandan

 

[mailmandan]

@mailmandan

When you study the scriptures with an assumption in mind, you will always walk away strengthened in that assumption.

Sounds like you are speaking from experience. When studying the scriptures, I properly harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching my conclusion on doctrine, as demonstrated in post #402.

 

[mailmandan]

We aren’t getting anywhere.

I wave the flag of peace.

Blessings to you @mailmandan

Flag of peace it is and blessings to you as well.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Satan would love to have every believer under the cloud of uncertainty about his or her salvation.

But the Bible tells us how we can know with certainty that we are saved. Now if Christians would just see that and do it!

 

[Michiah-Imla]

@FHII
@justbyfaith @Taken @Eternally Grateful @Addy @Enoch111 @Behold @101G @marks

I wave the flag of peace.

Blessings to you all!

 

[Addy]

I wave the flag of peace.

Blessings to you all!

To be honest... I did not read more than one or two posts here... This is a topic that I am NOT willing to discuss.
People will believe what they desire to believe. Blessing to you also.

 

[Taken]

A holy man of God (2 Peter 1:21 (kjv)).

Actually, Scripture was written by Scribes.
And not all Scribes were holy men believing what they wrote.

Matt 9:
[3] And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.

 

[Taken]

So, all of the people who are left behind, you are saying that they rejected Christ at some point and therefore had their names blotted out of God's Book?

* Before Trib...Rapture...those IN Christ.
* During Trib....ISRAEL accepting Christ (becoming saved, bodily slain)
* During Trib....Gentiles also saved, who reject Satan, Accept Christ, bodily slain.
* Nearing end of Trib...ALL save souls & spirits lifted up, bodies slain...
Remainder on Earth is unsaved souls, unborn again spirits in bodies of natural Living men...
(Excluding a remnant of saved to replenish the Earth)
suffering the Wrath of God.
They become bodily DEAD (excluding the Remnant )... and remain dead until Judgement day.

 

[Taken]

But there are several scriptures that tell us to keep believing.

One has to Believe, to Keep Believing.
The topic is about having received Salvation and then becoming Unsaved.

 

[FHII]

I don’t think anything.

I just listen to the scriptures.

You are extrapolating out of those scriptures what you want to extrapolate; you are not receiving those scriptures with a pure mind.

Yea sure... Whatever, dude. But what I believe is ver batem what the scripture says. Accuse me of whatever you want, all you want. But it ain't gonna work.

 

[07-07-07]

Yes,

John the Baptist spoke or religious pharisee, he demanded they have proof they were redeemed before he would baptise them.

to use the suggest salvation can be lost is out of context

Scripture interprets Scripture. Therefore, when the axe is laid to the tree, it is cut down and cast into the fire.

Luke 3
[8] Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
[9] And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

The OSAS people are saying the same as the Pharisees: "We have Jesus as our Savior". But I say as John the Baptist: "Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Jesus as our Savior: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children of Jesus."

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Maybe you should use the quote feature when you are quoting someone else...because that is all I was doing...using the quote feature on your post.

It is not my fault that you quoted someone else without using the quote feature so that when I quoted them out of your post, it gave you the credit.

If you had used the quote feature I would have been able to click on a specific button that is provided and been able to quote it from its original source. But as it was, I did not want to do the searching for that post.

So, report it if you will, I will do the same thing again.

So you need to get with the program.

Lol.....I am too much of a computer Dotard to “ get with the program”..... I barely know what you are talking about....
All I know is, whatever you are doing it can be misleading.....if you are not doing it on purpose I have no problem .....
If misleading our viewers when you don’t have to doesn’t bother your conscience .....there is nothing I can do for you....
I wouldn't do it to you....

 

[07-07-07]

ONCE a man IS SAVED-

ANYONE up for the challenge of SUPERSEDING the Lords Word?

John 10:
[28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
[29] My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Glory to God who IS FAITHFUL, regardless of mens beliefs and opinions.

You left out the first part.

John 10
[27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

If one who was saved turns back to his former sins is not following Jesus anymore.

Ezekiel 33
[13] When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.