Can I Have Everybody's Attention Please?

[TLHKAJ]

Psalm 101:3

“I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.”

 

[April_Rose]

If 7-8 Halloween-related threads in a week is to be equated with spiritual pearls you are casting before us, wouldn't you be wise to do as this scripture says and leave us swine alone about it? That's what the Lord Jesus Christ is saying here, so it becomes a question of will you obey it or not. Will you?

I'm not really sure what you're saying but it's October LOL what were you expecting Christmas threads? XD

 

[vannesa2]

Don't be too anxious to test other people randomly. The time may arrive when you have no choice, but consider also the way that the other fellow is walking with God. He may not be able to watch and enjoy certain things as you do and at the same time be able to stand on the Lord's side. For him the temptation may lead him right into his own besetting sin. You would not want to needlessly be the cause of that would you?

"Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.
For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak." Rom 14:19-21

Wow! thanks amadeus for this one for sure could not have put it better, and l guess at a certain time l really pushed some christians to do things that seemed very okay even for a christian according to me forgetting some people are not really that strong and could easily slowly be pulled away or spiritually get drained because of say watching some content, reading certain books, or listening to certain music,etc, you may completely see no harm in certain things but the prob is you don't know how strongly rooted is the other person in Christ Jesus and would you want to be the person that contributed to their fall from the truth? Can't wait to learn more from others commenting on this 'cause many times l found myself defending things and deep down l did not know whether they were fine but because am a christian and l was doing them l had to make them look fine to other christian too at least for them not to have that judgy looks at me and l gotta be honest l have my niece, she is currently doing ungodly things and l find it so hard to give her any advice because she literally used to ask me first back then and l would approve things that now l know are wrong but it feels l have no moral authority to tell her, hey Cathy that's wrong because it was me in the first place who told her it's completely ok when she had just got saved and it one thing that pains me a lot that l lead her to that way of life, and l was already a christian back then

 

[April_Rose]

Here's the thing though,.. nobody asked.

 

[vannesa2]

People bearing the label Christian are usually a mixed bag. Good things come out of generally evil mouths and vice versa. Perhaps good ideas can come also from the some seemingly very evil movies for some man put together the plot. The key however for a very young or inexperienced person may be having someone or something to help the person see that difference. Sometimes for some people the very best option for them is complete abstinence or avoidance...

Well said brother, wish l knew this a few years back, their are things l would not have told some people as a christian at least until they seemed ready enough to comprehend them

 

[TLHKAJ]

The reason I don't watch horror movies isn't because I'm spiritually weak. Quite the opposite. I think it takes a spiritually strong person to resist and turn away from evil. I also know what is behind those movies. I am spiritually sensitive due to my history and it is something I'm not going to give myself to. If I want to be entertained, I'll watch a Christian or family movie, or some homestead/gardening videos on youtube... or a Bible-related video, listen to music... talk to a friend ... laugh with my loved ones .... about as secular as I get in my viewing is that I sometimes watch Bonanza on youtube, or "Good Mythical Morning" ... on youtube... but only the ones that are family-friendly. But I've not watched those in probably 6 months or so. I watch Bonanza now and then because they have some really funny episodes that my son and I used to watch together and get some good laughs, no matter how many times we watched them. :) (He's gone Home with the Lord now... my son was 17.)
My mind is geared more toward something productive and uplifting ... or things ministry-related.

Anyway... @April_Rose I don't mean to offend you and that was never my intention. It's just something I don't understand... why a Christian would want to fill themselves with that sort of content. And it grieves my heart to see my family in the Lord not loving godly things more than the world. I know that sounds judgmental ... but it's there where we can see it and it does cause me to feel concerned and saddened for y'all. It's not hate that I feel .... really, it's because I love you that I tell what I know is truth. I do love you....

 

[Enoch111]

I answered your question so I'm expecting answers for what I posted.

The passage you quoted from Scripture applies to judging other Christians -- whether or not they are living a Christian life or not -- particularly their relationship to God.

We are to be careful is passing judgment on other Christians, but at the same time we must see whether those in our local church are showing the fruits of the Spirit. Obviously we cannot fairly judge anyone posting on the Internet.

However, that passage does not apply to false doctrines and false practices. Celebrating Halloween is a pagan and superstitious false practice, and is not acceptable for Christians, based upon what responsible people have to say. Here is a quotation from history.com:

'Halloween is a holiday celebrated each year on October 31, and Halloween 2020 will occur on Saturday, October 31. The tradition originated with the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain, when people would light bonfires and wear costumes to ward off ghosts. In the eighth century, Pope Gregory III designated November 1 as a time to honor all saints. Soon, All Saints Day incorporated some of the traditions of Samhain. The evening before was known as All Hallows Eve, and later Halloween. Over time, Halloween evolved into a day of activities like trick-or-treating, carving jack-o-lanterns, festive gatherings, donning costumes and eating treats...

This day marked the end of summer and the harvest and the beginning of the dark, cold winter, a time of year that was often associated with human death. Celts believed that on the night before the new year, the boundary between the worlds of the living and the dead became blurred. On the night of October 31 they celebrated Samhain, when it was believed that the ghosts of the dead returned to earth...

To commemorate the event, Druids built huge sacred bonfires, where the people gathered to burn crops and animals as sacrifices to the Celtic deities. During the celebration, the Celts wore costumes, typically consisting of animal heads and skins, and attempted to tell each other’s fortunes...

https://www.history.com/topics/halloween/history-of-halloween

Celtic dieties were in fact evil spirits -- demons -- therefore this basically opens people up to the actions of evil spirits. However, the above should be enough for Christians to shun Halloween.

 

[amadeus]

Wow! thanks amadeus for this one for sure could not have put it better, and l guess at a certain time l really pushed some christians to do things that seemed very okay even for a christian according to me forgetting some people are not really that strong and could easily slowly be pulled away or spiritually get drained because of say watching some content, reading certain books, or listening to certain music,etc, you may completely see no harm in certain things but the prob is you don't know how strongly rooted is the other person in Christ Jesus and would you want to be the person that contributed to their fall from the truth? Can't wait to learn more from others commenting on this 'cause many times l found myself defending things and deep down l did not know whether they were fine but because am a christian and l was doing them l had to make them look fine to other christian too at least for them not to have that judgy looks at me and l gotta be honest l have my niece, she is currently doing ungodly things and l find it so hard to give her any advice because she literally used to ask me first back then and l would approve things that now l know are wrong but it feels l have no moral authority to tell her, hey Cathy that's wrong because it was me in the first place who told her it's completely ok when she had just got saved and it one thing that pains me a lot that l lead her to that way of life, and l was already a christian back then

Sometimes it is impossible to speak to another person without offending them because they are so certain that their own stand is the right one or even the best one. Remember the question Cain asked the Lord?

"...Am I my brother's keeper?" Gen 4:9

The answer really as per Jesus is, Yes... but sometimes brothers and sisters even in the Lord are still at least partially in darkness. !

The scribes and Pharisees worked hard to twist the words of our Lord, but unsuccessfully. As with your niece, sometimes it may be better to simply remain quiet than to try to argue for a change. If the person is really open to change and you are to be the way that God uses to effect the change, a way will open for you. Simply always be ready for the time:

Ec 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
... a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;" Ecc 3:1, 7

Listen to God and you will know when and if...!

 

[April_Rose]

Just a quick notice. Anybody who tells me not to celebrate Halloween anymore is automatically going on ignore. I'm sick and tired of all of this. *Yawn*

 

[April_Rose]

Oh and you can still state your opinions without being put on ignore,.. but if you try to tell me what to do,.. mute.

 

[vannesa2]

Sometimes it is impossible to speak to another person without offending them because they are so certain that their own stand is the right one or even the best one. Remember the question Cain asked the Lord?

"...Am I my brother's keeper?" Gen 4:9

The answer really as per Jesus is, Yes... but sometimes brothers and sisters even in the Lord are still at least partially in darkness. !

The scribes and Pharisees worked hard to twist the words of our Lord, but unsuccessfully. As with your niece, sometimes it may be better to simply remain quiet than to try to argue for a change. If the person is really open to change and you are to be the way that God uses to effect the change, a way will open for you. Simply always be ready for the time:

Ec 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
... a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;" Ecc 3:1, 7

Listen to God and you will know when and if...!

Thanks a lot seriously, glad am here

 

[historyb]

Just a quick notice. Anybody who tells me not to celebrate Halloween anymore is automatically going on ignore. I'm sick and tired of all of this. *Yawn*

That's all this place has become, telling others what to believe instead of live and let live.

 

[TLHKAJ]

The passage you quoted from Scripture applies to judging other Christians -- whether or not they are living a Christian life or not -- particularly their relationship to God.

We are to be careful is passing judgment on other Christians, but at the same time we must see whether those in our local church are showing the fruits of the Spirit. Obviously we cannot fairly judge anyone posting on the Internet.

However, that passage does not apply to false doctrines and false practices. Celebrating Halloween is a pagan and superstitious false practice, and is not acceptable for Christians, based upon what responsible people have to say. Here is a quotation from history.com:

'Halloween is a holiday celebrated each year on October 31, and Halloween 2020 will occur on Saturday, October 31. The tradition originated with the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain, when people would light bonfires and wear costumes to ward off ghosts. In the eighth century, Pope Gregory III designated November 1 as a time to honor all saints. Soon, All Saints Day incorporated some of the traditions of Samhain. The evening before was known as All Hallows Eve, and later Halloween. Over time, Halloween evolved into a day of activities like trick-or-treating, carving jack-o-lanterns, festive gatherings, donning costumes and eating treats...

This day marked the end of summer and the harvest and the beginning of the dark, cold winter, a time of year that was often associated with human death. Celts believed that on the night before the new year, the boundary between the worlds of the living and the dead became blurred. On the night of October 31 they celebrated Samhain, when it was believed that the ghosts of the dead returned to earth...

To commemorate the event, Druids built huge sacred bonfires, where the people gathered to burn crops and animals as sacrifices to the Celtic deities. During the celebration, the Celts wore costumes, typically consisting of animal heads and skins, and attempted to tell each other’s fortunes...

https://www.history.com/topics/halloween/history-of-halloween

Celtic dieties were in fact evil spirits -- demons -- therefore this basically opens people up to the actions of evil spirits. However, the above should be enough for Christians to shun Halloween.

This is true.... and to be honest, human sacrifices do also take place on and around halloween. Child abductions begin increasing about this time of year.... as well, cult breeders are used to produce babies that are used in sacrifice. I have a very dear friend who the Lord allowed me to minister to. She approached me asking about "the God I serve." She said she could sense that I had a "different Spirit" about me. She would come to me and say, "Tell me more about Him..." So I'd share about Jesus in chunks she was able to take in. She eventually came to the Lord and she is so dear to my heart. Anyway... every year, she was impregnated so that her babies would be used in sacrifice. She would usually have twins or more. But this is a common thing in SRA (satanic ritual abuse) families.

 

[vannesa2]

Just a quick notice. Anybody who tells me not to celebrate Halloween anymore is automatically going on ignore. I'm sick and tired of all of this. *Yawn*

;)

 

[Seven of Nine]

Just a quick notice. Anybody who tells me not to celebrate Halloween anymore is automatically going on ignore. I'm sick and tired of all of this. *Yawn*

That's all this place has become, telling others what to believe instead of live and let live.

My advice to you both... don't let all this negativity get you down and stress you out. Put these people on ignore and move on.

 

[April_Rose]

;)

You're fine as you haven't actually tried telling me what to do. :)

My advice to you both... don't let all this negativity get you down and stress you out. Put these people on ignore and move on.

Done and done.

 

[Seven of Nine]

Done and done.

You know, life is too short to waste your time arguing with the people who only criticize you and put you down.

 

[April_Rose]

You know, life is too short to waste your time arguing with the people who only criticize you and put you down.

Exactly.

 

[Enoch111]

Put these people on ignore and move on.

That would be the same as burying your heads in the sand. Either Christians can learn from other Christians, or pay the price down the road. If you fool around with fire, don't be surprised when you get burned. "Nuff said.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Just trying to engage in conversation here, and telling my story:

When I was younger I used to watch horror movies. I was also a hunter and killed a lot of animals. I watched one of the animals I hunted suffer, so I observed and didn't really like it. But later I developed anxiety and had problems watching horror movies and ghost movies. So out of getting snapped by my anxiety I stopped watching them.

I still like Halloween and Harry Potter. And I find the more commonalities I have with non-Christians, the more I have to talk about and fellowship them with good Spiritual discussions. I don't see anything wrong with knowing about secular things and being part of secular things to some degree. So long as I'm not sinning.

And I think the scripture that comes to mind is this: John 17:14-16. So I think Aprilrose is OK here :)