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Who's life is it anyways?
Intellectual retrogradations
in the tenderloin
on a busy sidewalk
his anonymity assured
a traveling evangelist asked
two panhandlers in passing
not waiting for a reply
"What does it mean
to hand your life
over to God?"
A stray, and yet somewhat well fed looking dog decided to become the latest member of this pack camped on the sidewalk. This wasn't where they stayed in the evenings or when they had better things to do. This was their passive income location, and while it didn't exactly provide them with much in the way of passive income, it did provide them with a certain level of entertainment.
Shnark: "The first question I would have to ask is who are you? What are you handing over? What makes you think it's yours in the first place, and if you're just handing over your life, what about "you"? Why stop with just your life? Why not hand over "you" as well? I think the problem is that most people don't know who they are to begin with, and until they do, they're not going to be able to figure much of anything out."
Bark: "Truth often speaks through paradoxes. In solitude we are least alone."
Shnark: "We? To say "we" are alone doesn't sound like solitude or a paradox. Moreover, many have noticed that after some period of time in solitude, one notices an awareness that insists one isn't alone at all. Truth needn't utter a word. To speak is to utter lies."
Bark: "My goodness, you find difficulties where there are none."
Shnark: "I see no difficulties. You're the one making this supposed discovery. Perhaps you might discover something more from that mote you imagine in the eyes of others. And that claim isn't really all that different from what I am claiming in that to know the self is to know that it isn't anything more than an idea. There's not really anything to know."
Bark: "Yes; for some this is sadly true."
Shnark: "Ah, yes let's add some sadness to these so-called difficulties."
Their latest home was a definite improvement over their last one in that they had landed a quite comfortable spot in an alley between two stacks of pallets, some of which they had retooled into bedframes, furniture, etc. This spot was just across from two fast food restaurants; not chains, but nonetheless catering to a clientele that was on the go.
Bark: "One needs to interpret the sentence correctly."
Shnark: "One might better spend their time in observation than indulging false assumptions."
Bark: "Anyway you've almost stumbled on the meaning in your bit of reflection."
Shnark: "My bit of reflection? These aren't fragmentary ideas. At least I'm not stumbling. Far be it from you to provide your interpretation, lest your revelation prove false. Prove me wrong."
They had been using the establishment's restroom's for quite some time and would occasionally dine inside. Lately that wasn't such a good idea as Shnark and Bark had both lost their change of clothes to some of the local hooligans who thought it might be fun to steal their duffel bag of clean clothes.
The two restaurants shared a locked dumpster which Shnark and Bark now had their own key to as well. Shnark noticed that the proprietor of one of the establishments kept the key on a hook just inside the screen door. The door was at the end of a long hallway which customers routinely used to get to the restroom. The only other activity was from the employees who would occasionally come out to have a smoke or dump some garbage into the dumpster.
They had a way to bathe, but they needed clothes to change into so they could launder their dirty clothes. Their quickly degrading clothing wasn't winning them any points in either of the restaurants so they had to bide their time and enter when the place was empty for their orders to go.
Bark: "Those who claim to know themselves know themselves least. In Egyptian, Greek and Roman cultures "know thyself" was the beginnings of wisdom."
Shnark: "Yep, and that ship has sailed. What we really want to know is who you are after discarding yourself; who you are when self referencing is no longer an option."
Shnark inspected the lock and saw that it was just like the locks sold at the Dollar General Store three stops down on the subway which came with two sets of keys. Picking the lock wasn't a problem, but it also wasn't something they wanted to be doing every day. So they did the switch, and when the proprietor's key didn't work, Shnark offered a squirt from his travel sized WD 40 can, and asked for the key when the proprietor couldn't get it to work. After palming the dud, he returned the new key, and they were fixed for dinner.
Bark: "These are giant words full of sound and fury, and like those put in the mouth of Macbeth they signify nothing."
Shnark: "Well I suppose for those who aren't familiar with a point simply stated, the temptation to throw some tired reference in must be irresistible. The irony here is that these aren't giant words, and it actually does signify nothing which to those who are paying attention is to state the obvious. Perhaps you might want to take it to the next level, and instead of repeating what's already been presented; advance the discussion."
Sparky lifted his leg and gave Shnark's backpack a rinse which began to pool in some places. Shnark folded the backpack in on itself in an effort to smear it over as much of the backpack as possible. He had spilled some c
rine bleach on the backpack a few days ago and thought the mixture could prove potent in keeping the rats off him while he slept.
His theory wasn't without merit in that the two mixed together creates a toxic chemical called cyanogen c
ride. Cyanogen c
ride forms when c
rine reacts with nitrogen in urine. It acts like tear gas, roughing up the eyes, nose and lungs, and is classified as an agent of chemical warfare which Shnark had determined to be the cheapest route for warding off the local rodent population. His only regret was in not thinking of this before the local Hitler youth had swiped his laundry.
Bark: "Socrates opined: 'The unexamined life is not worth living.' Our own homely farmer poet Robert Burns usefully observed that we might be released from many follies if the powers that be would allow us to see ourselves as others see us."
shnark: "From my perspective, I don't see much of anything, and yet your folly still remains along with your inverted cap with twenty seven cents and that tossed evangelical flier you've retooled to preserve your precious spent chewing gum."
Bark:"The contemplation of our own insignificance helps place us in our universe. Offering ourselves to God may well be the way to wisdom; but it might also be the path to self-deception, just as good intentions pave the road to hell."
shnark: "Your simile seems as vague and inconclusive as what charlatans read in Tarot cards. Where does contemplation place us in our universe that we weren't already?"
Bark: "It places some where there is a wealth of wonderful information."
Shnark: "Well, that sounds promising, but by now I'm sure no one is expecting anything beyond your unexplained beliefs in this vague promise."
A prostitute had taken her post at the light just down from their position and had already flagged her first customer. Bark couldn't figure out why anyone would stop in a vehicle advertising their business. This clown had his name plastered on both sides of his plumbing truck with his phone number and business license displayed for everyone and their mother to see. He thought about taking some pictures and pursuing a plan to blackmail the john, but apathy forced his resignation.
Bark: "I suppose we must put up with what chance has given us."
Shnark: "Ah yes, some resignation to the fates. Just what we need to justify belief in our sad difficulties."
Bark: "We are our reference point, the alpha and omega of existence."
Shnark: "Well at least you're consistent in presenting a plural verb which agrees in number with its subject. Perhaps you might want to advance something more than your beliefs; perhaps something that explains how they might agree with the accepted science. Anyone with rudimentary skills at observation should be able to see the phenomenon of identity emerge in the later stages of infancy. The literature is clear that this is simply an abstract construction, and yet it is no more real than your ideas of God. They're just ideas. Of course the point here is that one needn't expire to recognize this fact. The question remains, and is as yet unanswered by those who would rather pontificate ad nauseum."
Their latest meal had left Shnark with one of the worst cases of sphincter rot imaginable. He was sure it was the chili chicken salad they'd dined on the evening before; at least that's what he had hoped and determined as the most likely cause.
Bark: "Of course we can pretend that we have established a magical link with the hereafter, with Divinity."
Shnark: "Let's not. How about making an honest attempt to advance something more than one's imagined fanciful arguments of straw."
Bark: "We invent our own explanations and our own gods."
Shnark: "Not everyone. Some aren't inventive or inspired at all, and must rely on the inspiration of others. Unfortunately it has the opposite effect when it isn't necessary or relevant."
Bark: "It is most relevant:
'Then stirs the feeling infinite, so felt
In solitude, where we are least alone;
A truth, which through our being then doth melt,
And purifies from self: it is a tone,
The soul and source of music, which makes known
Eternal harmony, and sheds a charm
Like to the fabled Cytherea’s zone,
Binding all things with beauty;—’t would disarm
The spectre Death, had he substantial power to harm' ".
to be continued....
Intellectual retrogradations
in the tenderloin
on a busy sidewalk
his anonymity assured
a traveling evangelist asked
two panhandlers in passing
not waiting for a reply
"What does it mean
to hand your life
over to God?"
A stray, and yet somewhat well fed looking dog decided to become the latest member of this pack camped on the sidewalk. This wasn't where they stayed in the evenings or when they had better things to do. This was their passive income location, and while it didn't exactly provide them with much in the way of passive income, it did provide them with a certain level of entertainment.
Shnark: "The first question I would have to ask is who are you? What are you handing over? What makes you think it's yours in the first place, and if you're just handing over your life, what about "you"? Why stop with just your life? Why not hand over "you" as well? I think the problem is that most people don't know who they are to begin with, and until they do, they're not going to be able to figure much of anything out."
Bark: "Truth often speaks through paradoxes. In solitude we are least alone."
Shnark: "We? To say "we" are alone doesn't sound like solitude or a paradox. Moreover, many have noticed that after some period of time in solitude, one notices an awareness that insists one isn't alone at all. Truth needn't utter a word. To speak is to utter lies."
Bark: "My goodness, you find difficulties where there are none."
Shnark: "I see no difficulties. You're the one making this supposed discovery. Perhaps you might discover something more from that mote you imagine in the eyes of others. And that claim isn't really all that different from what I am claiming in that to know the self is to know that it isn't anything more than an idea. There's not really anything to know."
Bark: "Yes; for some this is sadly true."
Shnark: "Ah, yes let's add some sadness to these so-called difficulties."
Their latest home was a definite improvement over their last one in that they had landed a quite comfortable spot in an alley between two stacks of pallets, some of which they had retooled into bedframes, furniture, etc. This spot was just across from two fast food restaurants; not chains, but nonetheless catering to a clientele that was on the go.
Bark: "One needs to interpret the sentence correctly."
Shnark: "One might better spend their time in observation than indulging false assumptions."
Bark: "Anyway you've almost stumbled on the meaning in your bit of reflection."
Shnark: "My bit of reflection? These aren't fragmentary ideas. At least I'm not stumbling. Far be it from you to provide your interpretation, lest your revelation prove false. Prove me wrong."
They had been using the establishment's restroom's for quite some time and would occasionally dine inside. Lately that wasn't such a good idea as Shnark and Bark had both lost their change of clothes to some of the local hooligans who thought it might be fun to steal their duffel bag of clean clothes.
The two restaurants shared a locked dumpster which Shnark and Bark now had their own key to as well. Shnark noticed that the proprietor of one of the establishments kept the key on a hook just inside the screen door. The door was at the end of a long hallway which customers routinely used to get to the restroom. The only other activity was from the employees who would occasionally come out to have a smoke or dump some garbage into the dumpster.
They had a way to bathe, but they needed clothes to change into so they could launder their dirty clothes. Their quickly degrading clothing wasn't winning them any points in either of the restaurants so they had to bide their time and enter when the place was empty for their orders to go.
Bark: "Those who claim to know themselves know themselves least. In Egyptian, Greek and Roman cultures "know thyself" was the beginnings of wisdom."
Shnark: "Yep, and that ship has sailed. What we really want to know is who you are after discarding yourself; who you are when self referencing is no longer an option."
Shnark inspected the lock and saw that it was just like the locks sold at the Dollar General Store three stops down on the subway which came with two sets of keys. Picking the lock wasn't a problem, but it also wasn't something they wanted to be doing every day. So they did the switch, and when the proprietor's key didn't work, Shnark offered a squirt from his travel sized WD 40 can, and asked for the key when the proprietor couldn't get it to work. After palming the dud, he returned the new key, and they were fixed for dinner.
Bark: "These are giant words full of sound and fury, and like those put in the mouth of Macbeth they signify nothing."
Shnark: "Well I suppose for those who aren't familiar with a point simply stated, the temptation to throw some tired reference in must be irresistible. The irony here is that these aren't giant words, and it actually does signify nothing which to those who are paying attention is to state the obvious. Perhaps you might want to take it to the next level, and instead of repeating what's already been presented; advance the discussion."
Sparky lifted his leg and gave Shnark's backpack a rinse which began to pool in some places. Shnark folded the backpack in on itself in an effort to smear it over as much of the backpack as possible. He had spilled some c

His theory wasn't without merit in that the two mixed together creates a toxic chemical called cyanogen c



Bark: "Socrates opined: 'The unexamined life is not worth living.' Our own homely farmer poet Robert Burns usefully observed that we might be released from many follies if the powers that be would allow us to see ourselves as others see us."
shnark: "From my perspective, I don't see much of anything, and yet your folly still remains along with your inverted cap with twenty seven cents and that tossed evangelical flier you've retooled to preserve your precious spent chewing gum."
Bark:"The contemplation of our own insignificance helps place us in our universe. Offering ourselves to God may well be the way to wisdom; but it might also be the path to self-deception, just as good intentions pave the road to hell."
shnark: "Your simile seems as vague and inconclusive as what charlatans read in Tarot cards. Where does contemplation place us in our universe that we weren't already?"
Bark: "It places some where there is a wealth of wonderful information."
Shnark: "Well, that sounds promising, but by now I'm sure no one is expecting anything beyond your unexplained beliefs in this vague promise."
A prostitute had taken her post at the light just down from their position and had already flagged her first customer. Bark couldn't figure out why anyone would stop in a vehicle advertising their business. This clown had his name plastered on both sides of his plumbing truck with his phone number and business license displayed for everyone and their mother to see. He thought about taking some pictures and pursuing a plan to blackmail the john, but apathy forced his resignation.
Bark: "I suppose we must put up with what chance has given us."
Shnark: "Ah yes, some resignation to the fates. Just what we need to justify belief in our sad difficulties."
Bark: "We are our reference point, the alpha and omega of existence."
Shnark: "Well at least you're consistent in presenting a plural verb which agrees in number with its subject. Perhaps you might want to advance something more than your beliefs; perhaps something that explains how they might agree with the accepted science. Anyone with rudimentary skills at observation should be able to see the phenomenon of identity emerge in the later stages of infancy. The literature is clear that this is simply an abstract construction, and yet it is no more real than your ideas of God. They're just ideas. Of course the point here is that one needn't expire to recognize this fact. The question remains, and is as yet unanswered by those who would rather pontificate ad nauseum."
Their latest meal had left Shnark with one of the worst cases of sphincter rot imaginable. He was sure it was the chili chicken salad they'd dined on the evening before; at least that's what he had hoped and determined as the most likely cause.
Bark: "Of course we can pretend that we have established a magical link with the hereafter, with Divinity."
Shnark: "Let's not. How about making an honest attempt to advance something more than one's imagined fanciful arguments of straw."
Bark: "We invent our own explanations and our own gods."
Shnark: "Not everyone. Some aren't inventive or inspired at all, and must rely on the inspiration of others. Unfortunately it has the opposite effect when it isn't necessary or relevant."
Bark: "It is most relevant:
'Then stirs the feeling infinite, so felt
In solitude, where we are least alone;
A truth, which through our being then doth melt,
And purifies from self: it is a tone,
The soul and source of music, which makes known
Eternal harmony, and sheds a charm
Like to the fabled Cytherea’s zone,
Binding all things with beauty;—’t would disarm
The spectre Death, had he substantial power to harm' ".
to be continued....