Apparitions of the Virgin Mary

[Marymog]

Our souls will praise Him, alone.

Ummmm.....I was hoping for an answer and I am not in the mood for dodgeball.

Thank you for your time

 

[Grailhunter]

Actually, I'm hoping to start a thread on this, and assuming I do, I'll be sure to invite you! I think it's very much in the Bible.

:)

Much love!

ok...I will be there

 

[Marymog]

Thank you!

:)

I'm curious, then, what does this part mean to you?

Romans 5
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Much love!

See post #261

 

[Marymog]

it has everything to do with praying to her which is heresy. try following the thread.

Yes, praying to Mary would be heretical. You and the Catholic Church agree with each other!!!

 

[Taken]

Yes, but you refuse to accept them, deny Protestant scholars and all the early reformers,

Deflection:
Jesus said nearly twenty times In Scripture To FOLLOW HIM...
Protestant Scholars, early Reformers, Catholic menAre Not Jesus!

Luke 1:28 [RSV]: “And he came to her and said, ‘Hail, O favored one, the Lord is with you!'”

Luke 1: (KJV)
[28] And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

So an Angel comes to Mary...a Woman...and tells her, ... (a Woman) ... that she is highly favored...and the Lord is With her....

Not one scripture reveals Mary was highly favored, or the Lord was with her...from the Day of her natural birth to the Day the Angel Spoke to her. (Approx 14 years), but for purposes of Point, going to use that approx. age.

So How did Catholics...(not having One shread of Evidence...for 14 years prior to Mary's Visitation by a Angel...)...
Come up with Mary being Highly Favored and the Lord with her for those 14 years?

Simple...put their Catholics Carnal minds together and DEFINE "highly favored"...as SINLESS.

And of course...no earthly person can Become SINLESS at any age...So, Logically...it necessitates, to ignore the real Truth of Mary during her natural Birth and 14 years until she reached womanhood...and skip back to her Birth and preach her being highly favored and The Lord with her, began at her natural Birth....

There is not one shred of Evidence, Mary was highly favored or the Lord was with her until the Day the Angel Revealed that knowledge.

That Corrupt teaching is one of the worst Hoaxes the Catholic Church has played on its own congregates.

It is NOT a big secret Why they did that...
However it is utterly Disgusting that THEY Did Do that.
And it is amazing so many people have fallen for the Hoax....Guess that comes with following Tom, Dick and Harry, instead of Jesus!

Glory to God,
Taken

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[YeshuaFan1]

(1) THE APPARITIONS AT MEDJUGORJE IN BOSNIA

As I've said, I am a Pentecostal Methodist, not a Catholic. But I feel led of God to defend or at least present biblical perspectives on Catholic distinctives in the hope that they can receive a fair hearing. What interests me far more are the major apparitions of the Virgin Mary. Though the RC Church accepts the authenticity of Marian apparitions at Guadaloupe, Fatima, and Lourdes (among other locales), Rome has yet to pronounce on the validity of the more recent apparitions at Medjugorje in Bosnia from 1981 to the present. I have been impressed by the testimonies of very bright acquaintances (e.g. a lawyer and a behavior psychologist) whose lives have been changed by pilgrimages to Medjugorje, sharing in the visions and experiencing miracles while there. Countless millions of pilgrims have now visited the sites of these Bosnian visions. Please watch this BBC video on the origin of these Marian visions and share your reactions:

Medjugorje Documentary - Bing video

For me, the jury is out on these miraculous apparitions at Medjugorje because of the 10 epic secrets revealed by Mary to the children. The children know the dates on which these events will be fulfilled and promise to disclose the exact dates 3 days in advance of their fulfillment. From their remarks, it seems that some of these events are truly apocalyptic!

As for myself, I visited the alleged house of the Virgin Mary atop a majestic little mountain outside of Ephesus in Turkey and I sensed the loving presence of the Holy Spirit there more powerfully than I did in my trips to biblical sites in Greece and Israel. I visited this house during a "Footsteps of St. Paul" tour out of curiosity arising from a spectacular healing miracle experienced there by a highly skeptical Methodist friend who had visited Mary's house previously. I'll share that experience in greater detail in future posts. Please watch the video before you post a reaction!

If you read the details on the Fatima event, reads much more like a UFO experience then encounter with God!

 

[ChristisGod]

If you read the details on the Fatima event, reads much more like a UFO experience then encounter with God!

sci-fi
fantasy island
the world of make believe- disneyland

:)

 

[marks]

So then in Romans 5
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement (Lit. reconciliation).

What does it mean to you that "we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son"? And how did that happen "when we were enemies"?

Much love!

His death ALSO reconciled us! Scripture makes it clear there is more than one way to reconciliation. I would refer you to Romans 8:7 and Colossians 1:21-22 about the "enemies" thing.

But what does it mean to you that we were reconciled by His death while we were His enemies?

I'll go first.

:)

To me, this means that even though we were God's enemies, and not doing anything towards getting right with God, He, through Jesus' death, reconciled us to Himself, that is, He removed everything that separated us from Him, everything He held against us, He removed all that, by putting it on Christ, and when Jesus died, all the sin went away. As a death was required, a death was given.

So then, even though we were still God's enemy, He was no longer our enemy.

It was a one-sided deal. God chose to do this for us, and we can either receive the reconciliation, or not. We can be reconciled to God, as He has already reconciled us to Himself.

But in that God reconciled us to Himself while we were His enemies, this shows that God reconciling us to Himself is not about our hostility or friendship, it's all about Jesus' death.

Would you agree with this?

Much love!

 

[Taken]

Yes, praying to Mary would be heretical. You and the Catholic Church agree with each other!!!

How do you pray TO an intercessory without praying TO them to intercede on your behalf?

Taken

 

[YeshuaFan1]

sci-fi
fantasy island
the world of make believe- disneyland

:)

reads more like something John keel would have explored!

 

[marks]

Yes, praying to Mary would be heretical. You and the Catholic Church agree with each other!!!

Now I'm confused again!

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Weren't we talking about asking Mary to pray for us?

Much love!

 

[ChristisGod]

Now I'm confused again!

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Weren't we talking about asking Mary to pray for us?

Much love!

things that make you go hmmmm lol

 

[YeshuaFan1]

Now I'm confused again!

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Weren't we talking about asking Mary to pray for us?

Much love!

ONLY Jesus can do that for us in heaven!

 

[Taken]

first of all luke 19 is not describing Jesus bit Zacchaeus who was little in stature.
secondly Is 53 is describing what He looked like because of the torture from His crucifixion and beatings.
thirdly John 20 was in the very early morning hour at first daylight in the shy when is was still somewhat dark hence He appeared to be someone else.

hope this helps !!!

Not at all.

 

[Taken]

I am so embarrassed. I meant Enoch and Elijah!! :cool:

Ok.
Same question...

Where does any Scripture Say God would have Enoch's Body and Elijah's ' Body Go straight to Heaven?

Taken

 

[ChristisGod]

Not at all.

of course not since you have REMOVED those passages from their context to come up with an unbiblical view.

 

[Taken]

of course not since you have REMOVED those passages from their context to come up with an unbiblical view.

Dude...
your opinions don't sway me. Get over it.

Taken

 

[ChristisGod]

Dude...
your opinions don't sway me. Get over it.

Taken

Likewise .

And the ad hominem attack tells me you cannot refute my position and must resort to personal attacks. Thanks for the ad hominem as it reveals much more about yourself than it does about me.

hope this helps !!!

 

[marks]

And the ad hominem

of course not since you have REMOVED those passages from their context to come up with an unbiblical view.

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[ChristisGod]

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