I'm a Christian and I support the legality of same-sex marriage
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Taken
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There's certainly a propensity for many here to dodge simple questions. Are they here to share and learn in an honest, give-and-take, discussion or are they trying to win an argument? They apparently want to legislate against some immoral behavior but not against others. When I ask them about it, they ignore the question. Oh well.
Prayer Warrior
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The idea of a victimless sin is a myth.
1 Cor 6:18--Run from sexual immorality! “Every sin a person can commit is outside the body.” On the contrary, the person who is sexually immoral sins against his own body.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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If you don't want to truly live under a theocracy, if you don't have no faith in a theocracy which means God rule then you won't. God doesn't want to force anyone to love him and his way. However you must understand that God is the only person with the power to give eternal life. He also doesn't do anything that's unjust or cruel but those who don't truly love God and his way most likely won't believe that.
Taken
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No.
But we Should Sustain the Integrity and Principles of the men who fought and died to Establish this Nation.
* This Nation was Established on Biblical Principles.
* Foreigners who come here desiring to bring their religion...I don't care.
* Foreigners who come here to Establish their Native country's Laws...I do care.
* Kids who are in Socialist public schools, not being taught the historical Truth of this Nation...I do care.
* Public Schools teaching little children
...homosuality is normal. I do care.
* Special laws for this group and that group...I do care
* Forcing:
...Clerics to join together homosexuals
...Forcing:
...Physicians to Abort babies
...Forcing:
...a bakery to serve a homosexual
...Forcing:
...businesses, schools, to employ/enroll so ...many of this race, that race, this gender,
....that gender.
...Forcing people out of employment Because
....they exercise their right to free speech.
...Releasing criminals ...or not incarcerating
....criminals...because crowding, bargaining,
...... drug rehab (8th time!!) A VIRUS!!!
While you may choose to Lend your support for a particular thing...Personally I am put off, by the American People who are so anxious to demoralize this Nation that was Established on High Principles...and the cost of those Principles being treated like some piece of imported plastic junk from China, that is but next weeks dung in the landfills.
Glory to God,
Taken
marksman
My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her
Straight out of the secularist bible. Heard it all before as it is clearly an invention of a mind that is rebelling against God.
Yout post is laced with "I support.." "I do not want.." "Religious doctrine should not..." "The government should not be.." "Make our own choices..." and so on and so on so lets correct some things for you.
1. As a believer, we have no freedom or personal choice except that which God gives us. We gave up our right to personal freedom when we gave ourselves over to him in repentance.
2. Our liberty is in Christ, not in our own wants.
3. Christ set us free not to do what we want but to do what he wants. Paul said it is no longer I that live but Christ that lives in me.
4. Same sex marriage is NOT a harmless event. If it was, the homosexuals would not be sending death threats to those who oppose it publicly.
5. We live in a theocracy as the country was set up based on the Judaeo - Christian ethic. Although we have a battle on our hands with the left trying to impose a godless society on us. Why would they be doing that if it was a godless society? Ever heard of law banning murder? Where do you think that came from? Ever heard of a law banning stealing? Where do you think that came from?
6. God invented marriage in Genesis so he has every right to dictate how it should work.
7. There is a reason why State Governments are involved in marriage. It is the best way to regulate marriage so that children have an identity which is essential for every child.
8. If the government should not be involved in marriage then they should not be invovled in marriage problems. Let their "private organisations" sort it out. You can't have it both ways.
9. When you are part of a society everything that everyone does affects you. As in same sex marriage legalised now we have boy lovers asking to make it legal. Is that all right with you? And we have drag queens entertaining preschool children in libraries. Is that all right with you? Those drag queens give me the heebie jeebies so I hate to think what it will do for the children bearing in mind there is a rebellious spirit behind it all.
10. So you are Ok with pimps making women prostitute themselves as a product of the sex slave trade? So you don't mind if a husband or wife drains the family coffers and leaves them penniless because of their love for the pokies? And you obviousy don't mind if someone dies as a result of drug overdose.
11. Had a look at those countries that ban religious imput into its governance. Places like North Korea where you are imprisoned for owning a bible. Or China under Mao Ze Dong and the currect leadership who have made it a crime to be a Christian. Is that what you want because that is what you will get if you removed God from the market place.
Ephesians 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
Philemon 1:1 Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ, and Timothy our brother, unto Philemon our dearly beloved, and fellowlabourer,
Ephesians 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Romans 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having been enslaved to God, you have your fruit unto sanctification, and the end everlasting life.
1Corinthians 7:5 Do not deprive one another, unless by agreement for a time, that you may be free for fasting and prayer. And come together again on the same place, that Satan may not tempt you through your incontinence.
1Corinthians 7:22 For the one called while a slave in the Lord is a freed man of the Lord. And likewise, the one called while a free man is a slave of Christ.
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Can you show me where in the U.S. Constitution or Bill of Rights that our nation's laws are based on the bible?
marksman
My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her
A Christian is not to engage the world on the moral plane. The world will follow the world. We are to be holy and NOT follow the world...even on the good aspects. We are to be reserved for God to follow Him.
So the OP may expose the bad judgment of believers who entertain a moral preference as being legal in the world or not. Can we legislate how many times a murderer can stab his victim? As in...okay 20 times is just too many times!!
But to the Christian sin is sin...whether people sanction it or not. Whether it causes moral outrage or not. We are to pray for the government that society be affected and preserved by righteousness. But if we are so busy trying to tweak the policies of a temporal institution as a worldly person does..who is there to show the way of Christ?
Holiness in the church has a direct affect on righteousness in the world. Like heat from a fire.
Where is the fire? Didn't Jesus come to bring fire? Or just good government?
So the OP may expose the bad judgment of believers who entertain a moral preference as being legal in the world or not. Can we legislate how many times a murderer can stab his victim? As in...okay 20 times is just too many times!!
But to the Christian sin is sin...whether people sanction it or not. Whether it causes moral outrage or not. We are to pray for the government that society be affected and preserved by righteousness. But if we are so busy trying to tweak the policies of a temporal institution as a worldly person does..who is there to show the way of Christ?
Holiness in the church has a direct affect on righteousness in the world. Like heat from a fire.
Where is the fire? Didn't Jesus come to bring fire? Or just good government?
Hidden In Him
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But your position seems to suggest that by law they should be allowed to consent, if they so wished to.
You see, what I don't think you take into account is what happens when a society delivers itself over to moral depravity. We were discussing on this forum a few months ago what is happening in Australia, and how judgments from God are being prophesied over the nation due to the present course they have taken in endorsing homosexual marriage, the reason being that it will eventually open the flood gates to moral depravity on a wide sale, including an increase in bestiality, pedophilia, and other highly immoral forms of sexual expression. This is why countries have tried to prohibit sexually immoral practice by law; there is a spiritual component involved, and things will progress from bad to worse.
I don't mean to be crass either, but suppose that a society grew so depraved in the future that it endorsed all manner of immoral sexual practices. Would you still favor there not being laws passed to prohibit them?
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Prayer Warrior
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The Declaration of Independence, which is a founding document, clearly cites our Creator as the source of our rights. It's our history. I suggest that you find a real history book (not revisionist) that doesn't leave out our Christian heritage and read it.
This has all been covered on this forum here: Did America Have a Christian Founding?
This article is long, but very balanced and worth the read if you care to educate yourself.
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Prayer Warrior
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Speak for yourself.
I agree with you about this, and I DO pray for my beloved country!
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Marriage was established to make babies.
Same sex marriages can't make babies.
They need to call it something other than marriage.
Do I think Jesus is inclusive? Yes. Do I think religion is inclusive? No. Put the gay issue aside for a minute. An American, I don't recall who said 100+ years ago, "You may disagree with me but I'll die defending your right to disagree with me." To me, this is as American as apple pie. It's also treating others how I want to be treated. It's not about being gay, addicted, or anything else. It's a principle that I and others have adopted because we believe it is a righteous way to think.
I wake up in the morning with this attitude. I carry it with me throughout the day. Whenever I speak to someone, I speak through it.
I am aware of what scripture says about homosexuality but I am also aware that Jesus hung out with sinners. Peace.
I wake up in the morning with this attitude. I carry it with me throughout the day. Whenever I speak to someone, I speak through it.
I am aware of what scripture says about homosexuality but I am also aware that Jesus hung out with sinners. Peace.
Bobby Jo
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Why would you be glad? It's a serious question. Are you glad if someone is stopped from destroying themself in one way, but not in another way?
What about cutting? Slicing one's flesh open due to an emotional/mental disorder? Risking infection, exsanguination, death?
A high risk behavior with no true upside and a seriously dangerous downside?
Much love!
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