The Mark of the Beast (what it really is explained)

[Bobby Jo]

LOL

Now if you wanted to know how and where Scripture provides a Time-Line, I'd be more than able to provide that premise. -- But I think you're at the "milk", and not the "meat" level. :)

Maybe the one in your "avatar" would be a little closer to "meat" than you.
Bobby Jo

 

[Truther]

Now if you wanted to know how and where Scripture provides a Time-Line, I'd be more than able to provide that premise. -- But I think you're at the "milk", and not the "meat" level. :)

Maybe the one in your "avatar" would be a little closer to "meat" than you.
Bobby Jo

LOL.

That's my grandson on his 1st birthday pics.;)

I know the book of Revelations extremely well.

I have taught it for nearly 4 decades.

I teach it literally(with a few signs), and it's portrayed order of events.

The meat you present must not be sensationalistic though, because those ideas have been proven wrong for 2000 years now.

This is precisely why every human on planet earth will have angels preach the gospel, warning them not to take the mark and of it's consequences in chapter 14.

The mark is instituted in the previous chapter to give the angels their message content.

Jimmy Swaggart etc, just duped us to pretend Jesus was speaking of them as responsible to reach every person....with our donations.


6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

 

[Bobby Jo]

[QUOTE="Truther, post: 810494, member: 8451"...
The meat you present ...[/QUOTE]

Can you cite something SPECIFIC, or do you prefer to slander with broad brush strokes?

And just because you "teach" something doesn't make your doctrines correct. -- If that were the case, we'd all be Catholics.

But as a "Proof" of your purported expertise, -- exactly WHY is the Lion the MOUTH; why is the Leopard (actually a TIGER) the BODY; and why is the Bear the FEET? And if you're up to it, BY NAME who are each of the SEVEN HEADS; and BY NAME who are each of the TEN HORNS. And then if you're REALLY PROFICIENT, -- WHY does Rev. 12 say SEVEN DIADEMS, and Rev. 13 say TEN DIADEMS?

-- You're the expert, so answer these OBVIOUS and SIMPLE questions. OR maybe you have been teaching FALSE Doctrines and need to discover the TRUTH.
Bobby Jo

 

[Timtofly]

I was just thinking about this last night...no man can buy or sell without the mark....buy or sell....that should be a key to what it is....a monetary system.​

Satan does not give any thing away for free. You have to work for it. Hope no lazy people follow Satan.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Satan does not give any thing away for free. You have to work for it. Hope no lazy people follow Satan.

No one gives anything away for free...well except charities.

 

[Bobby Jo]

No one gives anything away for free...well except charities.

In the business world, the saying is: If it's free, it ain't worth it. So when I'm offered a 5% Home Depot "credit card discount", although I could easily save a thousand dollars a year, -- I use my own credit card. And it turned out to be a good thing when the Home Depot data was compromised. :)

Bobby Jo

 

[Heart2Soul]

Mark of the Beast?
Please feel free to check out my thread on the mark....it's got some things to ponder on.

 

[quietthinker]

Now if you wanted to know how and where Scripture provides a Time-Line, I'd be more than able to provide that premise. -- But I think you're at the "milk", and not the "meat" level. :)

Maybe the one in your "avatar" would be a little closer to "meat" than you.
Bobby Jo

Are you not aware of how you elevate yourself and put your brothers in the dust?

 

[Truther]

[QUOTE="Truther, post: 810494, member: 8451"...
The meat you present ...

Can you cite something SPECIFIC, or do you prefer to slander with broad brush strokes?

And just because you "teach" something doesn't make your doctrines correct. -- If that were the case, we'd all be Catholics.

But as a "Proof" of your purported expertise, -- exactly WHY is the Lion the MOUTH; why is the Leopard (actually a TIGER) the BODY; and why is the Bear the FEET? And if you're up to it, BY NAME who are each of the SEVEN HEADS; and BY NAME who are each of the TEN HORNS. And then if you're REALLY PROFICIENT, -- WHY does Rev. 12 say SEVEN DIADEMS, and Rev. 13 say TEN DIADEMS?

-- You're the expert, so answer these OBVIOUS and SIMPLE questions. OR maybe you have been teaching FALSE Doctrines and need to discover the TRUTH.
Bobby Jo[/QUOTE]
You are asking me to teach sensationalism.

That is what I have avoided teaching.

I teach the LITERAL overview of Rev with a few signs.

The "proficient" are generationally wrong and counting.

 

[bbyrd009]

You don't know what you're talking about, otherwise you "solve" the calculation and identify the person. So until you can chew meat, please stick to what you're good at -- milk.

Bobby Jo

yikes

 

[bbyrd009]

The little horn of Daniel 7 is prophetically the same entity. This power/individual grows out of a beast we recognise as pagan Rome, at a time when pagan Rome had already been subject to division. That event, the fall of pagan Rome and it's divisions had not yet taken place at the time of Nero.
Nor did Nero counterfeit the ministry of Christ as prophet, priest, and king.

ah, so

 

[Heart2Soul]

[QUOTE="Truther, post: 810494, member: 8451"...
The meat you present ...

Can you cite something SPECIFIC, or do you prefer to slander with broad brush strokes?

And just because you "teach" something doesn't make your doctrines correct. -- If that were the case, we'd all be Catholics.

But as a "Proof" of your purported expertise, -- exactly WHY is the Lion the MOUTH; why is the Leopard (actually a TIGER) the BODY; and why is the Bear the FEET? And if you're up to it, BY NAME who are each of the SEVEN HEADS; and BY NAME who are each of the TEN HORNS. And then if you're REALLY PROFICIENT, -- WHY does Rev. 12 say SEVEN DIADEMS, and Rev. 13 say TEN DIADEMS?

-- You're the expert, so answer these OBVIOUS and SIMPLE questions. OR maybe you have been teaching FALSE Doctrines and need to discover the TRUTH.
Bobby Jo[/QUOTE]
Hey Bobby Jo....I am ready for you to reveal all you know on this matter....I have been reading this reply from you for a long time now....and I am always disappointed that you don't tell us why there are 10 diadems, and 7 diadems.

 

[Heart2Soul]

[QUOTE="Truther, post: 810494, member: 8451"...
The meat you present ...

Can you cite something SPECIFIC, or do you prefer to slander with broad brush strokes?

And just because you "teach" something doesn't make your doctrines correct. -- If that were the case, we'd all be Catholics.

But as a "Proof" of your purported expertise, -- exactly WHY is the Lion the MOUTH; why is the Leopard (actually a TIGER) the BODY; and why is the Bear the FEET? And if you're up to it, BY NAME who are each of the SEVEN HEADS; and BY NAME who are each of the TEN HORNS. And then if you're REALLY PROFICIENT, -- WHY does Rev. 12 say SEVEN DIADEMS, and Rev. 13 say TEN DIADEMS?

-- You're the expert, so answer these OBVIOUS and SIMPLE questions. OR maybe you have been teaching FALSE Doctrines and need to discover the TRUTH.
Bobby Jo[/QUOTE]
I want to know why....please supply the answers.

 

[Heart2Soul]

ah, so

Revelation 17 speaks of the 7 mountains...my research says that Rome used to be known as the country of 7 hills.

 

[bbyrd009]

Revelation 17 speaks of the 7 mountains...my research says that Rome used to be known as the country of 7 hills.

ha still is i guess, yeh

 

[Bobby Jo]

Can you cite something SPECIFIC, or do you prefer to slander with broad brush strokes?

And just because you "teach" something doesn't make your doctrines correct. -- If that were the case, we'd all be Catholics.

But as a "Proof" of your purported expertise, -- exactly WHY is the Lion the MOUTH; why is the Leopard (actually a TIGER) the BODY; and why is the Bear the FEET? And if you're up to it, BY NAME who are each of the SEVEN HEADS; and BY NAME who are each of the TEN HORNS. And then if you're REALLY PROFICIENT, -- WHY does Rev. 12 say SEVEN DIADEMS, and Rev. 13 say TEN DIADEMS?

-- You're the expert, so answer these OBVIOUS and SIMPLE questions. OR maybe you have been teaching FALSE Doctrines and need to discover the TRUTH.
Bobby Jo

You are asking me to teach sensationalism.
That is what I have avoided teaching.
I teach the LITERAL overview of Rev with a few signs.
The "proficient" are generationally wrong and counting.

You can't "teach" what you don't know, but you criticize those who do know. -- What kind of "teacher" are you? You don't know anything, but YOU'RE THE TEACHER?!?

You're like my Calculus Professor in the University which filled BOTH SIDES of the blackboard on the first day of class WITHOUT A WORD OF EXPLANATION; and some guy in the back of the classroom spoke out that her "answer" didn't match the "answer" in the back of the book. So she erased the SECOND HALF OF THE BLACKBOARD and re-wrote the equation again WITHOUT A WORD OF EXPLANATION, and STILL CAME UP WITH A WRONG ANSWER. -- So she said she'd have the answer on "Friday", and dismissed class.


I dropped the Class and the "Professor" after I complained to the Dean of the Math Department, -- and then re-enrolled under another Professor in a subsequent semester.
Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

Revelation 17 speaks of the 7 mountains...my research says that Rome used to be known as the country of 7 hills.

Rome doesn't have "seven hills", much less "seven mountains". Perhaps the author is depicting Seven Empires (Seven Heads)?


So sorry,
Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

I want to know why....please supply the answers.

Dear H2S,

As posted in the Topic: The Mark of the Beast

ABSOLUTELY, -- as I've done MULTIPLE TIMES in MULTIPLE TOPICS:

SEVEN HEADS -- using Dan. 2 & 7 combined:

1. Gold, Babylon
2. Silver, Medo/Persia
3. Bronze, Grecia
4. Iron, Roman
-- Clay, "Divided Kingdom"
-- 5. Lion/Eagle, U.K./U.S.
-- 6. Bear, Russia
-- 7. Leopard (actually a TIGER), China
-- 8. Dreadful, United Nations -- the "eighth that was and is not" because has NO Populous, NO Geography, NO Army, etc.
​

TEN HORNS & TEN DIADEMS

Permanent Membership on the Security Council

1. U.S.
2. U.K.
3. France
4. Russia
5. China
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NOMINATED to Permanent Membership on the Security Council

6. Germany -- Economic Power
7. Japan -- Economic Power
8. Brazil -- Regional Representative for S. America
9. Nigeria -- Regional Representative for Africa
10. India -- Regional Representative for the Near East
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BEAST ATTRIBUTES

Mouth -- the Lion because the U.K./U.S. is proficient in Science, Technology, Trade, and Finance
Body -- the Leopard (actually a TIGER) because China has the world's largest population
Feet -- the Bear because Russia has the most land mass, 8M versus 3M each for Canada, the U.S., and China

​

Now, because we understand the STRUCTURE, all we have to do is find the World's Most Senior Political Statesman who's a Jew, -- Kissinger. So sum his name using the same WORLD'S LANGUAGE (English) technique we used to sum the word C O M P U T E R:

A=6
B=12
C=18
D=24 ... etc.​

And to confirm the premise, using our money for "PURCHASES", look at a UPC Barcode and discover two thin lines at the Beginning, two thin lines at the Middle, and two thin lines at the End, which are Registration Marks that if read properly accept the Product Identification between them! The two thin line represent the number "6" because in binary the number "6" is PERFECT because it's not a single "bit" (Stray Electron); it's not "All-ON"; and it's not "Alternating" -- which are ALL FAILURE MODES:

1. 0001 -- Stray electron
2. 0010 -- Stray electron
3. 0011 -- All ON
4. 0100 -- Stray electron
5. 0101 -- Alternating
6. 0110 -- PERFECT
7. 0111 -- Possibly indicating the TRINITY?!?​

And of course, the number "6" when hand counting is the two finger "Peace Sign", and the image is the circle of the earth with the two arms of the Cross broken down.​

Anything else? :)
Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

Hey Bobby Jo....I am ready for you to reveal all you know on this matter....I have been reading this reply from you for a long time now....and I am always disappointed that you don't tell us why there are 10 diadems, and 7 diadems.

Dear H2S,

And again, I've posted the answer MULTIPLE TIMES in MULTIPLE TOPICS, so here it is JUST FOR YOU!

Rev. 12 is PRE one-world-government, United Nations. Thus the Seven World Empires maintain their historical standings with SEVEN Diadems.

Rev. 13 is UNDER the one-world-government United Nations. Thus the authority of the Ten Nations is represented by the TEN Diadems.

​

Pretty simple and pretty obvious when you understand the sequence of World Empires as laid out by Daniel and World History! :)
Bobby Jo

 

[Truther]

You can't "teach" what you don't know, but you criticize those who do know. -- What kind of "teacher" are you? You don't know anything, but YOU'RE THE TEACHER?!?

You're like my Calculus Professor in the University which filled BOTH SIDES of the blackboard on the first day of class WITHOUT A WORD OF EXPLANATION; and some guy in the back of the classroom spoke out that her "answer" didn't match the "answer" in the back of the book. So she erased the SECOND HALF OF THE BLACKBOARD and re-wrote the equation again WITHOUT A WORD OF EXPLANATION, and STILL CAME UP WITH A WRONG ANSWER. -- So she said she'd have the answer on "Friday", and dismissed class.


I dropped the Class and the "Professor" after I complained to the Dean of the Math Department, -- and then re-enrolled under another Professor in a subsequent semester.
Bobby Jo

No, if you don't know... say "I don't know", and you will be well received.

It is the speculator that gets laughed out of Christendom.

Remember 88 reasons why Jesus will return in 1988?

The sensationalists never stop making folks laugh at them.

When I teach, I generalize the sequence of events of the book of Rev and leave the details up to the student, which makes it much more interacting for them too.

I can also teach a pre trib rapture from it too.

All kinds of interesting stuff without teaching Joe Shmo is the antichrist....