Saved Or Predestined ???
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Yes.
As Jesus told the Apostles and disciples: I CHOOSE YOU, you did not choose ME.
Most religious people on earth just go with the flow of lost humanity. They don't seek God nor do they seek the truth,
so they are and remain lost.
IF they seek God and keep seeking God, repenting of their lives, they will find Him - this is God's Promise, not man's.
To know anything, it must be granted from heaven from ABBA YAHWEH ALMIGHTY CREATOR.
We cannot learn anything good from men, except as given and granted by the Creator in heaven, as written (verified in Scripture).
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So that, if there be anyone who seeks God, it is because God had sought and found him first and had given him knowledge about Himself that the one could then seek Him.
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So that, if there be anyone who seeks God, it is because God had sought and found him first and had given him knowledge about Himself that the one could then seek Him.
That's what you say. If you are referring to Romans 1, nowhere does it say that everyone has been given enough knowledge to seek God through the natural world. Please show, if there is.
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Just for clarity - are you referring to where God Says that NO MAN has an excuse for rejecting Him , because ALL CREATION is evidence of Him ?
What is written ? What does the Creator Himself Say in Scripture ? (about who He reveals the truth to, and who He Hides the truth from ? )
Man can edit words and reprint falsehoods as seen with KJB. That is why people turn atheist.
Does that matter at all ?
What is written, is written, and changes not.
When God Says clearly He cannot lie, this never changes.
Men lie.
This also does not change for the world of men, the religions of men. Most all men.
Only for the new creation. Only for those whose lives are in Jesus, abiding in Him always.
If you want to live daily in Jesus, as a new creation in Him, He shows how in His Word. Man cannot accomplish this.
So ? No, btw.
People turn atheist (did you, btw, turn atheist?) because the enemy , sin, the flesh, the world, man's religions, deceive them. Or they simply are in the flesh, born of the flesh, they don't have to do anything after being born to be dead in sin and in trespasses. They all start that way, every one.
If you do not trust man, good. God says if someone trusts in man, God curses them.
If you choose to trust God, good - turn to Him, cry to Him for His deliverance. He is the only one that can deliver anyone . His Way. As written.
The devil/ demons believe, and tremble in terror because they know their judgment is certain and soon (and terrifying).
Those who believe various false stories about God, likewise may find themselves someplace besides what they are told, taught, and think.
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