Did Jesus claim to be God?

[101G]

Therefore when Jesus prayed to the Father in John 17 He was actually praying to himself? Can you see how ridiculous and pathetic this is???!!!

which meansyou don't understand the bible nor theTRUE and LIving God.
but you can believe one God with three faces... separate and distinct yet one Spirit. see how you been decieved all these years. separate and distinct yet one. just keep that in your head.... (smile). separate and distinct yet one, that's ridiculous. but you have no scripture to disprove what I have said, but by the scriptures we have disprove your doctrine over and orver, trinitarians have no scripture, nor any leg to stand on, now that's pathetic. so if you can but your scripture where your mouth is. it's just that simple.

so the time for small talk is over, vain babbling is useless, so put forth your scriptures, else be quite.

PICJAG

 

[amadeus]

Isaiah 28:9 "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts."
Isaiah 28:10 "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:"

one line scriptures, or posts want do.... people want to speak of other books that are suppose to be last, and other doctrines that are not in the bible, and yet have not mastered the few they now in the bible.

this is not burger king, you cannot have it your way......

PICJAG.

God's Way is always the best!

 

[101G]

God's Way is always the best!

correct, and thanks. How you been doing?.

PICJAG.

 

[amadeus]

correct, and thanks. How you been doing?.

PICJAG.

My wife especially has the 'locked in' blues. Being in here with her most of time I have determined that it may indeed be catching. She has a severely compromised immune system, which make extreme caution on both our parts advisable, but God is good all of the time. We trust Him, but we aren't going to tempt Him.

 

[101G]

My wife especially has the 'locked in' blues. Being in here with her most of time I have determined that it may indeed be catching. She has a severely compromised immune system, which make extreme caution on both our parts advisable, but God is good all of the time. We trust Him, but we aren't going to tempt Him.

Take care old friend, you and your family. God is alway with us.

be bless,

PICJAG.

 

[amadeus]

Take care old friend, you and your family. God is alway with us.

be bless,

PICJAG.

Amen!

 

[101G]

on point, and on time.

thanks.

PICJAG.

 

[amadeus]

on point, and on time.

thanks.

PICJAG.

Give God the glory!

 

[JunChosen]

I am not saying that, I am saying we are a tripartite being. Body, soul and spirit.

Would that not apply to God in Christ on earth?
.

God has no beginning. He always is. On the other hand, man was created perfect but lost his fellowship a with God when he disobeyed the command. He also lost his spiritual life and this is the reason we need to be born again as per John 3.

Our whole being will not be complete until Jesus raises those whom the Father named to salvation before the foundation of the world, and this will occur on the last day.

Furthermore, if Adam did not sin, he would have lived forever.

So yes man would have been body, soul, and spirit.

 

[101G]

GINOLJC to all.
yesterday, a poster gave a good example of the Godhead, but allowed pride to enter into the discussion. but no matter, we will be like our Lord as christians and "forgive, for they know not what they do". with that, lets look at diversity plain and simple. the ordinal First and the ordinal last.

Revelation 5:1 "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals." here we see the Lord Jesus sitting on the throne as High Priest. but now this, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."
Revelation 5:7 "And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne."

the Lamb who was slain and now standing is the resurrected Christ... the Lord Jesus. but wait is not the Lord Jesus sitting on the throne? so how can the Lord Jesus sit and stand at the same time. good question, the answer, he's the "diversity" of himself in flesh. as the ordinal LAST he sits. and as the ordinal FIRST he stands, BINGO. as Lord, ordinal LAST, (with flesh and bone), he sits, and as ordinal FIRST, LORD, (Spirit, per John 4:24a), he stands, and is sent into all the earth, (the Holy Spirit) and is carrying out, or fulfilling Psalms 110:1, and at the same time "comforting" his people. we clearly see this, Revelation 5:6 "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." this sending forth happen on the day of Pentecost. so Psalms 110:1 is being fulfilled as we speak. "A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.". and this is back up in Psalms 110:5 "The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath." the right hand means POWER. JESUS the ordinal Last has "ALL POWER", supportive scripture, Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth."

so the diversity of God is plain to see in all scriptures. it's just the knowing and the the understanding of the word of God which is taught by the Holy Spirit. it's just that simple.

so the example of the two men as one is clearly understood by diversity.

PICJAG

 

[Cooper]

If you want diversity explained you only need go back to medieval actors who played several parts on stage, I won't say roles, by putting on a different mask appropriate to the character they were portraying, hence the one God could be seen in his three contemporaneous diversities as portrayed by one actor.

It all seems a bit sacrilegious to me, but there we are.

We all perform different functions, while being one person. I do not know what the problem is for those people who want to diminish the Mighty God by putting chains on Him and making out he has a handicap and cannot come to his own.

The God I believe in can do ALL things.

 

[JunChosen]

STOP!!! Already. You don't really know what you are speaking about although this false gospel of "diversity" is your own creation. You speak so much about ordinal FIRST and ordinal LAST that you don't know whether you're coming or going.

so the example of the two men as one is clearly understood by diversity.

Is this another sequel to "Star Wars"?

as Lord, ordinal LAST, (with flesh and bone), he sits, and as ordinal FIRST, LORD, (Spirit, per John 4:24a),

Another hole in your theology?! Scripture insists "flesh and bones (blood)" cannot inherit the kingdom of God. Is God exempt from this? Or, does God have a rule for Himself and another rule for man???!!!

so the diversity of God is plain to see in all scriptures. it's just the knowing and the the understanding of the word of God which is taught by the Holy Spirit. it's just that simple.

It's so simple that I can't find any scripture that this is taught by the Holy Spirit.

so the example of the two men as one is clearly understood by diversity.

PICJAG[/QUOTE]

Sez you!!!

To God Be The Glory

 

[brian100]

You can't prove Jesus is God to anyone with a bible. Only with his works.. The Shroud of Turin. This says he is God and his Queen is Mary. Yes, God enter this world thru his queen and we know him as the Son of God. That's why you can't bypass Jesus.

 

[theophilus]

You can't prove Jesus is God to anyone with a bible. Only with his works.. The Shroud of Turin. This says he is God and his Queen is Mary. Yes, God enter this world thru his queen and we know him as the Son of God. That's why you can't bypass Jesus.

I have never found any place in the Bible where Jesus called Mary his Queen. Here is what the Bible says;

There is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
1 Timothy 2:5 ESV

The Shroud of Turin can't be genuine because it doesn't fit the Bible's description of how Jesus was buried.

The shroud of Turin

 

[brian100]

Theo, Perhaps you should get out more.. I found it on the Shroud.

 

[101G]

If you want diversity explained you only need go back to medieval actors who played several parts on stage, I won't say roles, by putting on a different mask appropriate to the character they were portraying, hence the one God could be seen in his three contemporaneous diversities as portrayed by one actor.

It all seems a bit sacrilegious to me, but there we are.

We all perform different functions, while being one person. I do not know what the problem is for those people who want to diminish the Mighty God by putting chains on Him and making out he has a handicap and cannot come to his own.

The God I believe in can do ALL things.

GINOLJC, to all.
First thanks for the reply, second, what I want is of no concern, it's what God want is the most Major thing of importance. if you understand "diversity" or not, that's not my problem. I have told you the fundamental basic of it. for Hosea 4:6 is now in effect. and Psalms 110:1 is being fulfilled as we speak.

and the God I believe in can do all things and "diversity" is one of those things".

PICJAG.

 

[Joseph77]

Many who deny the deity of Jesus say that he never claimed to be God.

He has always existed echad, perfectly, without beginning, without being created, echad - one with ABBA ELOHIM.

Those who know His Voice, don't care what other voices say - we run from other voices (instead of listening to them).

Wherever He Goes, We Follow. Perfect Joy. Perfect Peace. Echad with Jesus and with Abba. Eternally.

The false gospels and false teachings, anathema, fill the world, - a way men think is right, leads to destruction.

The world refuses to stop serving (worshiping) demons, as written in the Bible Clearly.

Their end is destruction. Death. Suffering. Pain. Sorrow. Stress. Anxiety. The wicked have no peace coming= only judgment.

 

[101G]

STOP!!! Already. You don't really know what you are speaking about although this false gospel of "diversity" is your own creation. You speak so much about ordinal FIRST and ordinal LAST that you don't know whether you're coming or going.

first thanks for the reply, second, is it you who is tossed and turning from years of false teaching. that ordinal "First" and the ordinal "LAST" got you ... dind't it. you never see Jesus in this Light before, have you?....... (smile). "STOP IT", I'm just getting started. and FYI, "Diversity" is a doctrine, and not a gospel. there is one Gospel, and that gospel is of the Lord Jesus. so again you're confused. know the difference between a gospel and a doctrine.

Is this another sequel to "Star Wars"?

No, now that's the Gospel of or the REVELATION of Jesus Chjrist......... the true, "sequel"...

Another hole in your theology?! Scripture insists "flesh and bones (blood)" cannot inherit the kingdom of God. Is God exempt from this? Or, does God have a rule for Himself and another rule for man???!!!

see how confused you are, where did I say Flesh bone ... AND "BLOOD"?
101G said: ↑
as Lord, ordinal LAST, (with flesh and bone),where did I say blood?. since i didn't say that, where did you get that from? not from the Holy God, nor any of the holy angels of God, nor any holy men and women of God.... welll that narrow it down , don't it... (smile).
understand something, Jesus came and dwelt HERE ON EARTH IN A FLESH AND BLOOD ........ "NATURAL BODY". but when he rose, he have no "BLOOD", only resurrected, CHANGES, FLESH and BONE .... hear this, hear this, attention all on deck, hear this... JESUS after his resurrection have no "BLOOD".

It's so simple that I can't find any scripture that this is taught by the Holy Spirit.

Just a few, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."
Offspring, G1085 γένος genos (ǰe'-nos) n.
kin.
{abstract or concrete, literal or figurative, individual or collective}
[from G1096]
KJV: born, country(-man), diversity, generation, kind(-red), nation, offspring, stock
Root(s): G1096

THERE IS THE DOCTRINE, "DIVERSITY". BINGO..... oh so easy. see diversity tells us, maybe not you, that God himself came in flesh...BONE ... and "Blood". and when he gave that bl00d, (notice I'm using numerial "0" in the place of the alphabet, "o", because it COST you nothing to be REDEEMED. without cost to you, salvation is "FREE". that's what "Diversity" is all about, GOD, Jesus coming in flesh/the "offspring" of his ownself, paying the price for you, and all of US. see this "DOCTRINE" plainly and clearly tells us who JESUSD is... "GOD DIVERSIFIED IN FLESH" ...
do I need to give another, well we'll give one from the OT also. Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:". notice ONE LORD, there is that "Diversity" in the form of "ANOTHER" to come ... "Lord", the ordinal LAST. BINGO. hey, you cannot beat "Diversity", you will only Lose.

PICJAG.

 

[brian100]

Jesus didn't always exist... God always existed. God came thru his Queen which made him the Son of God=Jesus to us. This is why nobody can go around Jesus back to meet the Father.

Jews have a problem with this.

God told Moses I 'am (the Christ ) many centuries before, and now it echos thru all time.

 

[101G]

Jesus didn't always exist... God always existed. God came thru his Queen which made him the Son of God=Jesus to us.

ERROR, JESUS is God and have alway existed, only now, John 1:1 was he Manifested in the Flesh as the "Offspring" or the diversity of his OWN-SELF, who is God. there is no doubt to that.

if I'm in error, as always, Just take the John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 test. so is this the same person who "MADE ALL THINGS", yes or No.

PICJAG.