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Praise God, what a journey to find truth! If you seek you shall find!A major aspect of my mental illness, as it pertained to my theology, had to do with the fact that I had said to my English teacher in High School, that I believed that the Father was satan; because of a misunderstanding of the message of Jack London's book White Fang. In the book, the wolf has one master who is cruel and demanding and later comes into contact with a master who is loving and kind. Because of certain things I had misunderstood in the Old Testament, I had perceived God the Father to be like that first master; and Jesus Christ to be more like the second master. (In all reality the first master was the law and the second master grace.)
However, in coming to an understanding that is very close to Oneness theology, I have come to perceive the Father as being not satan; for there was no deceit in His mouth when He descended to become a Man (Isaiah 53:9). And of course the devil is the father of lies.
This turned out to be the clincher for my misconception that I have now come to understand that it was false.
Therefore as of April 29 Wednesday, at 5:56 in 2020, I believe that I have passed from death into evrlasting life and shall not come into condemnation, according to John 5:24.
Now my spiritual breathing will consist of the fact that I am a debtor, not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if I live according to the flesh, I will die; but if I by the Spirit will mortify the deeds of the body, I will live.
After reading all of this, it sounds too me as if you've had a really crappy childhood. Have you done anything to approach any of that?A major aspect of my mental illness, as it pertained to my theology, had to do with the fact that I had said to my English teacher in High School, that I believed that the Father was satan; because of a misunderstanding of the message of Jack London's book White Fang. In the book, the wolf has one master who is cruel and demanding and later comes into contact with a master who is loving and kind. Because of certain things I had misunderstood in the Old Testament, I had perceived God the Father to be like that first master; and Jesus Christ to be more like the second master. (In all reality the first master was the law and the second master grace.)
However, in coming to an understanding that is very close to Oneness theology, I have come to perceive the Father as being not satan; for there was no deceit in His mouth when He descended to become a Man (Isaiah 53:9). And of course the devil is the father of lies.
This turned out to be the clincher for my misconception that I have now come to understand that it was false.
Therefore as of April 29 Wednesday, at 5:56 in 2020, I believe that I have passed from death into evrlasting life and shall not come into condemnation, according to John 5:24.
Now my spiritual breathing will consist of the fact that I am a debtor, not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if I live according to the flesh, I will die; but if I by the Spirit will mortify the deeds of the body, I will live.
It has not only been my childhood.After reading all of this, it sounds too me as if you've had a really crappy childhood. Have you done anything to approach any of that?
The Father didn't become a man (the Son of God).A major aspect of my mental illness, as it pertained to my theology, had to do with the fact that I had said to my English teacher in High School, that I believed that the Father was satan; because of a misunderstanding of the message of Jack London's book White Fang. In the book, the wolf has one master who is cruel and demanding and later comes into contact with a master who is loving and kind. Because of certain things I had misunderstood in the Old Testament, I had perceived God the Father to be like that first master; and Jesus Christ to be more like the second master. (In all reality the first master was the law and the second master grace.)
However, in coming to an understanding that is very close to Oneness theology, I have come to perceive the Father as being not satan; for there was no deceit in His mouth when He descended to become a Man (Isaiah 53:9). And of course the devil is the father of lies.
This turned out to be the clincher for my misconception that I have now come to understand that it was false.
Therefore as of April 29 Wednesday, at 5:56 in 2020, I believe that I have passed from death into evrlasting life and shall not come into condemnation, according to John 5:24.
Now my spiritual breathing will consist of the fact that I am a debtor, not to the flesh, to live according to it. For if I live according to the flesh, I will die; but if I by the Spirit will mortify the deeds of the body, I will live.
Father, Son and Holy Spirit are clear in Scripture, Matthew 28; John Gospel, esp. ch/s 13 thru 17; Romans 8; John's First Epistle, etc.The Father didn't become a man (the Son of God).
Yes it is derailing and off topic.This is a testimony thread. Discussions of the rightness or wrongness according to another's beliefs or doctrines of what a person posts are out of place here.
@Angelina
@Heart2Soul
@Josho
Please keep debates in debate forums...this is a testimonial forum where members share their experiences and give testimony which Glorifies God.The Father didn't become a man (the Son of God).
This is a testimony thread. Discussions of the rightness or wrongness according to another's beliefs or doctrines of what a person posts are out of place here.
@Angelina
@Heart2Soul
@Josho
God knows our hearts justbyfaith, he knows if we are true to what we understand.It should be clear that in the last days (and there is no guarantee of a pre-tribulation rapture; since Laodicea is the last days church) men will be among other things false accusers (2 Timothy 3:1-5); and that many who are in Christ will be identified as mentally ill by society, (Hosea 9:7, 2 Corinthians 5:13) although in all reality they will have no mental illness at all (2 Timothy 1:7, 1 Corinthians 2:16, Romans 8:27, Romans 12:2).
It will be because of thine iniquity and the great enmity against those who are truly righteous in God's kingdom, that people of faith in Jesus Christ will be slandered with slander of such labels as paranaoid schizophrenic, schizophrenic, schizoaffecive, and bipolar...and also forced to take drugs against their will through a process called conditioning. They will be injected with medications as police take them into facilities where they will not be allowed to leave until they begin to take the medications faithfully over time.
There will be a gradual process in which Christians, in desiring to have a clean bill of mental health, will be conditioned to take medication until, in order to be set free, they will even become willing to take the mark of the Beast.
However, that mark is something that brings everlasting condemnation (Revelation 14:9-11).
Mark my words, it is coming soon!
Scriptures:
Hos 9:7 The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know [it]: the prophet [is] a fool, the spiritual man [is] mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred.
2Co 5:13 For whether we be beside ourselves, [it is] to God: or whether we be sober, [it is] for your cause.
2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what [is] the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God.
Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Yes, there is no denying that I have a persecution complex.
Well stop it.
No.
The Bible itself teaches us to have a persecution complex in such passages as Matthew 5:10-12, Luke 6:22-23, and 2 Timothy 3:10-12.
lol I like that
Of course, I could be put into a mental hospital for having it...which I would define as persecution for believing in those passages.:cool:
I guess that's why they define it as a complex.
They can't cure you by persecuting you for it (putting you into a mental hospital and injecting you with drugs and then forcing you to take them until you are conditioned to take them outside the hospital; not allowing you freedom until this is the case).
I've come to accept the thing that I cannot change; perhaps they should learn to accept the things that they cannot change, and cease their persecution of Christians who believe in the passages in question.
The best way to cure someone of a persecution complex is to make sure that no one persecutes them, wouldn't you say?
But those of us who have one often wax obnoxious in order to draw persecution out from people.
Persecution for obnoxiousness' sake.
I'm being facetious.
You and I have discussed this before.A short testimony.
Before I became a believer in Christ I used to be an addict of the game of AD&D; and I even played the computer games of that sort after becoming a Christian because I wanted to show interest in my brother who also played the game (obedience to Philippians 2:4).
I started one of the games as a Cleric with a wisdom of 18; and proceeded to read a book when I found it. It raised my wisdom score to that of 19; but the game immediately ended because my character went insane in the dungeon.
The final score of the game was that it said that my character "went insane."
This happened three times; and my brother was witness to it.
I think that the last time that it happened, my brother got the picture, that my character went berserk on all of the creatures (I think, because they kept attacking him while he was attempting to glean wisdom from the book) and finally took over the entire dungeon.
Hos 9:7, The days of visitation are come, the days of recompence are come; Israel shall know it: the prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad, for the multitude of thine iniquity, and the great hatred.
I say to you truly that this character in the game of life has the true victory; while suffering cannot be avoided by any of us.
Thank you, I know that I am also accepted of God, in the Beloved.You and I have discussed this before.
And I understand it partially because I have had to deal with it.
My own son was murdered because he was running with the wrong crowd because he was self medicating. Bi-polar.
Neither expect criticism, nor sympathy from me....just acceptance.
I like JBF
Criticism in such matters is cruel and unprepossessing because we cannot always walk in another moccasins.
Sympathy fixes nothing...nice...but can materialize as a crutch.
I accept you as you are....