The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

[Taken]

Ummmmmm, show me where 1 Tim. 2:5 says anything about "likeness".
It says explicitly, the man (ANTHROPOS) Christ Jesus

Do I need to post the definition of "Anthropos" again - or did you read it the other three times I posted it?

You have repeatedly failed to properly address this verse because you keep stating that it is something that "BOL claims" - instead of dealing with the fact that it is the inspired Word of Almighty God.

That's why you lose . . .

LOL...
As has already been QUOTED TO YOU...because you were and obviously still unaware...

Rom 8:3
Phil 2:7

Reveals LIKENESS.

If you required the little simple text of Scripture Get a Toddler Bible, until you are matured for more complex text found throughout several Books of the Bible.

 

[reformed1689]

Learn to TRUST the FACTS and TRUTH of God Over the truths of men.

Um, we are. We are actually using WHAT GOD WROTE.

 

[Taken]

You have repeatedly failed to properly address this verse ...

That verse has been addressed repeatedly...

Simple baby explanation for you...

Jesus Looked like a HUMAN man.

Human men Looked at Jesus and SAW a Human man.

Human men thus called Jesus a Human man.

Mature men's understanding...

Jesus IS God.

God Does NOT Change.

Humans are Created (from Dust and return to Dust)

God IS NOT Created.

God IS Everlasting.

Jesus Has the POWER to APPEAR in the LOOK and LIKENESS of Human men.

Baby explanation...

God IS Spirit, even when God uses His Power to LOOK LIKE an Angel or a Man...God IS STILL SPIRIT...
God does NOT CHANGE and BECOME an Angel or BECOME a MAN....

He BECOMES in the "LIKENESS"...
And LIKENESS is merely 'SIMILAR"..NOT the "SAME".

Perhaps it is LIKENESS you need a LESSON to understand what it means...still you remain baffled between what IS, and what IS LIKE.

Awe, pat on head sonny.

 

[Taken]

Um, we are. We are actually using WHAT GOD WROTE.

What did God Write that you are quoting?
Refresh your post please, because I saw nothing you quoting that God Wrote.

 

[BreadOfLife]

LOL...
As has already been QUOTED TO YOU...because you were and obviously still unaware...

Rom 8:3
Phil 2:7

Reveals LIKENESS.

If you required the little simple text of Scripture Get a Toddler Bible, until you are matured for more complex text found throughout several Books of the Bible.

Uh huh - but when you read those verses in CONTEXT with Heb. 2:16-17 and 1 Tim. 2:5, you see that He is HUMAN (Anthropos) as well as God.

Context is NOT your friend.
You're a cherry-picker . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

That verse has been addressed repeatedly...
Simple baby explanation for you...
Jesus Looked like a HUMAN man.
Human men Looked at Jesus and SAW a Human man.
Human men thus called Jesus a Human man.
Mature men's understanding...
Jesus IS God.
God Does NOT Change.
Humans are Created (from Dust and return to Dust)
God IS NOT Created.
God IS Everlasting.
Jesus Has the POWER to APPEAR in the LOOK and LIKENESS of Human men.

Baby explanation...
God IS Spirit, even when God uses His Power to LOOK LIKE an Angel or a Man...God IS STILL SPIRIT...
God does NOT CHANGE and BECOME an Angel or BECOME a MAN....
He BECOMES in the "LIKENESS"...
And LIKENESS is merely 'SIMILAR"..NOT the "SAME".

Perhaps it is LIKENESS you need a LESSON to understand what it means...still you remain baffled between what IS, and what IS LIKE.

Awe, pat on head sonny.

And that's not what Paul wrote - is it??
Paul called Him "the MAN (Anthropos=HUMAN) Christ Jesus" in 1 Tim. 2:5.

You can show me 100 verses where it says "likeness" - but they ALL must be read in context with 1 Tim. 2:5 and Heb. 2:16-17.
You lose because you're not Scripturally bankrupt - you're linguistically ignorant.

 

[BreadOfLife]

What did God Write that you are quoting?
Refresh your post please, because I saw nothing you quoting that God Wrote.

God is the Author of Scripture - or aren't you aware of this??
He isn't the scribe who wrote it down - but He wrote every word because He breathed it (2 Tim. 3:16).

 

[reformed1689]

What did God Write that you are quoting?
Refresh your post please, because I saw nothing you quoting that God Wrote.

We have quoted from John, Timothy, and others. Do you not believe the Bible is GOD'S WORD?

 

[Taken]

Uh huh - but when you read those verses in CONTEXT with Heb. 2:16-17 and 1 Tim. 2:5, you see that He is HUMAN (Anthropos) as well as God.

Context is NOT your friend.
You're a cherry-picker . . .

Yes I do pick and choose scripture that verifies scripture.

God does not CHANGE.
God existed Before Humans.
God IS NOT a Human.

You repeating men what men said over and over, does not CHANGE God Into a Human man.

It is about a Choice.

You choose to believe men whom you say BELIEVED God IS A Human.

I choose to believe My God IS Spirit, Does NOT Change, and APPEARED in the LIKENESS of Human men.

So what?

I think you may be A HUMAN....and you Claim your God IS A HUMAN...
However nothing you have said indicates God is LIKE YOU or YOU are Like God.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

And that's not what Paul wrote - is it??
Paul called Him "the MAN (Anthropos=HUMAN) Christ Jesus" in 1 Tim. 2:5.

You can show me 100 verses where it says "likeness" - but they ALL must be read in context with 1 Tim. 2:5 and Heb. 2:16-17.
You lose because you're not Scripturally bankrupt - you're linguistically ignorant.

My God IS Spirit.

Your god IS A Human.
Nothing new the Greeks had many human gods.

 

[reformed1689]

My God IS Spirit.

Your god IS A Human.
Nothing new the Greeks had many human gods.

The Bible says the second person of the Trinity is both God and Human. Truly God and Truly man.

 

[Ezra]

We have quoted from John, Timothy, and others. Do you not believe the Bible is GOD'S WORD?

he was fully man and fully God but his likeness was of a man all th miracles he preformed could not have been done by a human being. man has a hard time comprehending this he was born in the flesh conceived by the spirit . that should register something to you 2 . likeness a form; abstractly, resemblance

 

[reformed1689]

he was fully man and fully God but his likeness was of a man all th miracles he preformed could not have been done by a human being. man has a hard time comprehending this he was born in the flesh conceived by the spirit . that should register something to you 2 . likeness a form; abstractly, resemblance

If he was only a resemblance, he could not have suffered as we suffered, he could not have been tempted as we have been tempted, in short, he could not have redeemed us.

 

[Ezra]

If he was only a resemblance, he could not have suffered as we suffered, he could not have been tempted as we have been tempted, in short, he could not have redeemed us.

of man born in the flesh convinced of the Holy ghost a virgin brought him to Birth . at no time did he lay aside he deity . you and your co writer are making it sound as he was just a human being .he redeemed us because he was Christ the messiah. he will save his people from there sins.. NO human being could do that ..might i add you just agreed with me ---> If he was only a resemblance, he could not have suffered as we suffered, he could not have been tempted as we have been tempted, in short, he could not have redeemed us.. he done all this because he was fully God resembles man .plz dont twist what i posted

 

[reformed1689]

you and your co writer are making it sound as he was just a human being

How in the world does saying "Truly God and Truly Man" lay aside His deity and make him "just a human"? This is a strawman argument.

NO human being could do that ..might i add you just agreed with me ---> If he was only a resemblance, he could not have suffered as we suffered, he could not have been tempted as we have been tempted, in short, he could not have redeemed us.. he done all this because he was fully God resembles man .plz dont twist what i posted

No person who was ONLY human did that. The God-Man did that. And no, I did not agree with you.

 

[Ezra]

How in the world does saying "Truly God and Truly Man" lay aside His deity and make him "just a human"? This is a strawman argument.


No person who was ONLY human did that. The God-Man did that. And no, I did not agree with you.

why ????? are you denying what i post read real close

he was fully man and fully God but his likeness was of a man all the miracles he preformed could not have been done by a human being. man has a hard time comprehending this he was born in the flesh conceived by the spirit . that should register something to you 2 . likeness a form; abstractly, resemblance

that is what i posted and you calling it a strawman argument ????? i am beginning to wonder if your post are not like Bol have to be right look what you posted

The Bible says the second person of the Trinity is both God and Human. Truly God and Truly man.

 

[reformed1689]

why ????? are you denying what i post read real close that is what i posted and you calling it a strawman argument ????? i am beginning to wonder if your post are not like Bol have to be right look what you posted

Here is your problem. You say truly God and truly man, but then you say it wasn't really truly man it was just the likeness, like a hologram or something. Because, in your words, a human could not do those things. Yet humans have performed miracles. But you ignore those. You have no basis to say Jesus was not truly human and just mere likeness.

 

[Ezra]

Here is your problem. You say truly God and truly man, but then you say it wasn't really truly man it was just the likeness, like a hologram or something. Because, in your words, a human could not do those things. Yet humans have performed miracles. But you ignore those. You have no basis to say Jesus was not truly human and just mere likeness.

ok you have it your way no mere human has ever performed miracles on hiss own.. i believe in Divine healing not divine healers.. Today God works through man our prayers . we have no power on our on to do miracles . the Holy spirit does it all. so No human has ever performed a miracle on his own.. Jesus has the power to forgive sins .. MAN DOESN'T ONCE AGAIN born of the flesh yet still Christ yet at NO TIME did his deity ever leave him. you keep holding on to your part .i will hold to mine i really dont acre

 

[reformed1689]

ok you have it your way no mere human has ever performed miracles on hiss own

Strawman. I did not claim that.

MAN DOESN'T ONCE AGAIN born of the flesh yet still Christ yet at NO TIME did his deity ever leave him. you keep holding on to your part

You realize I do not argue that his deity left him right?

 

[Ezra]

You realize I do not argue that his deity left him right?

you do realize once again you agreed with me.. but yet called it a straw man argument i dont think you know what is up what is down .