BreadOfLife ~ UNPROVEN CLAIMS..

[BreadOfLife]

This sure is an ugly thread....

Yes, it certainly is.
It's ALWAYS ugly when a person gets pounced upon from multiple attackers . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

What do you think is the root cause?

Glory to God,
Taken

The dishonest person who started it.

Gee, I WONDER who that is . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

FROM WHERE dld you get AND teach "your understanding" of Scripture?

Glory to God,
Taken

From, Christ's Church.

YOUR inventions came later.

 

[Taken]

The dishonest person who started it.

Gee, I WONDER who that is . . .

LOL...The DISHONESTY...

Is one who makes Claims about other people, and can NEVER Verify their Claims are true.
That would be BOL.

Is one who SPEAKS LIES and claims it is what an other has said and believes.
That would be BOL.

Is one who SAYS he WONDERS who started this thread....you don't wonder...you know who started this thread....But you can't help yourself to lie about everything.

This thread was for YOU to come clean and prove your accusations...YOU FAILED...and carry on making up more lies about other people.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

From, Christ's Church.

Could you be more specific?

When you GO to Church you GO to a building.

Did a building teach you the understanding of Scripture?

Didn't you learn the understanding of Scripture from catechism?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Eighteen Pages...and still BOL has NOT produced once shred of evidence that Taken claimed to HAVE NO SIN.

BreadOfLife...has CLAIMED, TAKEN CLAIMED to HAVE NO SIN.

BOL...PROVE YOUR CLAIM...QUOTE TAKEN saying WHAT YOU CLAIMED he said.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Marymog]

Scripture according to you is bizarre doctrines?

WOW...

Glory to God,
Taken

Sooooo who taught you your doctrines?

Patient Mary

 

[Marymog]

No. You are not smart enough to comprehend simple language.

Something obviously completely foreign to YOU...as I PLAINLY SAID TO YOU..
JESUS is my teacher....
Dunce...I am not Jesus!

A most befitting and applicable verse for you. Or anyone who does not know the truth and spouts lies.

John 3
[ 12] If I {Jesus} have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I {Jesus} tell you of heavenly things?

Glory to God,
Taken

Hi Taken,

Soooo Jesus is talking directly to you and teaching you to properly interpret Scripture? All the "dead men" writings that I read....THEY didn't and couldn't properly interpret Scripture but YOU and YOUR writings are a proper interpretation of Scripture????

Curious and Patient Mary

 

[BreadOfLife]

This thread was for YOU to come clean and prove your accusations...YOU FAILED...and carry on making up more lies about other people.

Glory to God,
Taken

And I proved them.

YOU claim to be without sin - yet you say your flesh IS sin, which makes ZERO sense. Flesh is inanimate without the Soul.Indirectly, you are calling Christ a sinner because He had the very SAME flesh as YOU and me.

1 John 1:8 says that the truth is NOT in you . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Could you be more specific?
When you GO to Church you GO to a building.
Did a building teach you the understanding of Scripture?
Didn't you learn the understanding of Scripture from catechism?

Glory to God,
Taken

The building isn't the Church.
Christ's Church is made up of people and He is the Head (Col. 1:18).

Don't you know this??

 

[BreadOfLife]

Eighteen Pages...and still BOL has NOT produced once shred of evidence that Taken claimed to HAVE NO SIN.
BreadOfLife...has CLAIMED, TAKEN CLAIMED to HAVE NO SIN.
BOL...PROVE YOUR CLAIM...QUOTE TAKEN saying WHAT YOU CLAIMED he said.

Glory to God,
Taken

From post #311 . . .
I said:
"We’ve already established that if you are forgiven of ALL of your past sins and you are incapable of sinning in the future – which YOU have claimed."

YOU responded with:
"That which SCRIPTURE establishes for a man IN Christ, applies to me."

Ergo . . .
- Forgiven of ALL past sin.
- Incapable of ever sinning again.

Now - we've already proven that the flesh itself is NOT sin - otherwise, Christ Himself would have sin - so that entire argument goes right OUT the window.
SO - with ALL of that said - this is a state of being SIN FREE.

1 John 1:8 says that YOU have deceived yourself and the truth is NOT in you.

 

[Taken]

And I proved them.

No you have not Dunce.

YOU

claim to be without sin --

No "I" did NOT.

You repeateding a lying accusation, simply confirms you are a liar.

PROOF is ME MAKING THAT CLAIM...Dunce...

Where is THAT?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

No you have not Dunce.

No "I" did NOT.

You repeateding a lying accusation, simply confirms you are a liar.

PROOF is ME MAKING THAT CLAIM...Dunce...

Where is THAT?

Glory to God,
Taken

No need to get so angry.

To anybody with half a brain - I have proven my point SEVERAL times now and exposed your massive LIE in the process. I understand WHY that would anger you – but you really should calm down . . .

 

[Taken]

To anybody with half a brain - I have proven my point SEVERAL times now

The FACTS have NOT CHANGED.

1 John 1:
[8] IF "we" say that we have no sin, "we" deceive ourselves....

1 John 1:8 has an "IF" caveat.
For that Scripture to be TRUE for "A" person,
"A" person would HAVE TO MAKE THE CLAIM, "THEY"....HAVE NO SIN.

Scripture warns people about PEOPLE LIKE YOU, LIARS, False accusers.

You think yourself so clever, like your father, TO MAKE CLAIMS FOR OTHER PEOPLE....

The ONLY ONE WHO HAS MADE THE CLAIM "FOR ME", saying "I HAVE NO SIN"....

IS YOU, a LIAR AND FALSE ACCUSER.

UPON WHAT FACT DID YOU MAKE THAT CLAIM...FOR ME?

According to 1 John 1:8...the ONLY FACT UPON which YOU COULD "TRUTHFULLY" make that claim....

IS "IF" "I" had made that claim.

I never MADE THAT CLAIM FOR ...

AND YOU COULD NOT ONCE QUOTE ME MAKING THAT CLAIM.

YOU MADE THAT CLAIM "FOR ME"... and then YOU BEING WORST THAN satan himself...attempt to USE the Lords Name FOR YOUR DECEPTIVE LYING GAME.

John 8
[44] Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Matt 7
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

No need to get so angry.

To anybody with half a brain - I have proven my point SEVERAL times now and exposed your massive LIE in the process. I understand WHY that would anger you – but you really should calm down . . .

LOL...nice try to deflect....
You think me laughing at you is a sign of anger....LOL

What you have proven IS YOU ARE A LIAR.
You make LYING CLAIMS for other people, repeat your Lie over and over and then Lie again and say you have proven what another person has SAID...

WHAT a DUNCE. LOL.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

The FACTS have NOT CHANGED.

1 John 1:
[8] IF "we" say that we have no sin, "we" deceive ourselves....

1 John 1:8 has an "IF" caveat.
For that Scripture to be TRUE for "A" person,
"A" person would HAVE TO MAKE THE CLAIM, "THEY"....HAVE NO SIN.

Scripture warns people about PEOPLE LIKE YOU, LIARS, False accusers.

You think yourself so clever, like your father, TO MAKE CLAIMS FOR OTHER PEOPLE....

The ONLY ONE WHO HAS MADE THE CLAIM "FOR ME", saying "I HAVE NO SIN"....

IS YOU, a LIAR AND FALSE ACCUSER.

UPON WHAT FACT DID YOU MAKE THAT CLAIM...FOR ME?

According to 1 John 1:8...the ONLY FACT UPON which YOU COULD "TRUTHFULLY" make that claim....

IS "IF" "I" had made that claim.

I never MADE THAT CLAIM FOR ...

AND YOU COULD NOT ONCE QUOTE ME MAKING THAT CLAIM.

YOU MADE THAT CLAIM "FOR ME"... and then YOU BEING WORST THAN satan himself...attempt to USE the Lords Name FOR YOUR DECEPTIVE LYING GAME.

John 8
[44] Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Matt 7
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Glory to God,
Taken

Oh, I get it.

Sooooo, as long as YOU keep denying that this is what you are saying – then 1 John 1:8 doesn’t apply to YOU.

Well, you can fool your friends and you can even fool yourself – but you can’t fool God.

YOU said that you have been forgiven of ALL of your past sins – and that you CANNOT sin anymore.
That is a SIN-FREE person.

1 John 1:8 says that the truth is NOT in you – no matter HOW you try to rationalize it . . .

 

[Taken]

Oh, I get it.

Sooooo, as long as YOU keep denying that this is what you are saying – then 1 John 1:8 doesn’t apply to YOU.

No Dunce YOU DO NOT GET IT...

1 John 1:8 does NOT APPLY to ME Because some half-baked nitwit Lying Catholic made that claim FOR ME.

Well, you can fool your friends and you can even fool yourself – but you can’t fool God.

LOL...

I never made that Claim.....YOU DID Dunce.

YOU said that you have been forgiven of ALL of your past sins –

No....THAT is YOUR LIES...
I said I have Been Forgiven ALL my Sins, DUNCE.

and that you CANNOT sin anymore.

Absolutely, I accepted the Lords OFFERING to become BORN AGAIN...
AND
ACCORDING TO GODS WORD...(not your twisted Catholic Rubbish)...

1 John 3:
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin , because he is born of God.

That is a SIN-FREE person.

LOL, Your LYING Catholic Teaching and you regurtating Catholic LIES, Does not make you or your Church the Authority ON Scripture.

SCRIPTURE DOeS NOT TEACH MEN become SIN-FREE Dunce... NOR has anyone claimed that....BUT YOU.


ANYONE with the TRUTH of Gods WORD, knows the difference Between CLAIMING TO "HAVE" NO SIN...AND "COMMITTING" SIN.
And a man WHO has CONFESSED HIS SIN TO THE Lord, AND HE FORGAVE their SIN...

The mans SIN Didn't disappear stupid...it was Covered and over powered By Gods Light...

And it is for the utterly ignorant such as yourself....Who has been TAUGHT to FOLLOW and TRUST the LIES "your" Gentile fathers have that FAILED to TRUST and BELIEVE Gods POWER WITHIN A MAN KEEPS THAT MAN FROM Ever "AGAIN" "COMMITTING" SIN AGAINST GOD.

It has BEEN from the Beginning...God APPOINTED Hebrews and the Tribes of Israel as the TEACHERS OF HIS WORD...

It has been FOR Centuries that Gentiles HAVE APPOINTED THEMSELVES TEACHERS of Gods WORD...

And it has been FOR CENTURIES that Catholics and Muslims and others have APPOINTED "THEIR" Gentile brothers to rewrite and twist Gods Word into a LIE...AND then Laughably...TEACH their ignorant gentile brothers WHAT "their" rewritten Scripture means....

No Dunce YOU DO NOT GET IT...

1 John 1:8 does NOT APPLY to ME Because some half-baked nitwit Lying Catholic made that claim FOR ME.

I am not accountable for YOUR LYING CLAIMS AGAINST ME Dunce.

The Lord has not once heard me make that claim.....However NUMEROUS times the Lord has heard YOU MAKE that CLAIM Against me.

Just as the Lord has HEARD all your LYING speech when YOU SPEAK YOUR LIES for other People....even For Jesus, Jesus' Apostles and Mary, you have no Shame, to SPEAK things they Never said, and things Scripture Never Taught.

The Difference between you and me...
IS I chose to FOLLOW thee Lord Jesus...
YOU chose to FOLLOW human Catholic gentiles...

And the GREAT THING ABOUT GOD ALMIGHTY...
IS:
GOD IS JUST...
Whatever a man CHOOSES to FOLLOW...the POWER OF GOD WILL BE WITH THAT MAN...
Helping that man to Believe MENS Lies, MENS philosophies...
And BY the SAME POWER OF GOD...a man who CHOOSES to FOLLOW...Gods TRUTH...THE POWER of God will Be with that man Helping that man to BELIEVE
Gods Truth.

My standing has been made clear, I stand WITH thee Lord God.
Your standing is has been made clear, you stand WITH Catholics.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

The building isn't the Church.
Christ's Church is made up of people and He is the Head (Col. 1:18).

Don't you know this??

The question was...
From Where do YOU get YOUR Understanding of Scripture.

Your answer...Christ's Church.

And what is Christ's Church according to you...? A make-up of People.

Since you are utterly incapable of answering a SIMPLE question....I will have to deduce you get YOUR Understanding of Scripture "From People". Whoop whoop. Scripture says no such thing.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Hi Taken,

Soooo Jesus is talking directly to you

LOL...news to you? Not surprising you being Catholic.

John 10
[27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

and teaching you to properly interpret Scripture?

Eh, I wouldn't use your words...but rather would say thee Lord God Gives me HIS Understanding of HIS WORD.

All the "dead men" writings that I read....THEY didn't and couldn't properly interpret Scripture

LOL, I didn't say that....but it is FUNNY you say that that after saying YOU Follow "THEM"...LOL

but YOU and YOUR writings are a proper interpretation of Scripture????

I didn't say that either.

What do you think is the CAUSE of YOUR STUPIDITY....Your natural ability to cling to your Carnal Mind, to Make up LIES FOR other people, or something like your Catholic brother BOL you learned to do per Catholic teaching?

I am not responsible or accountable for YOUR LIES to or About me.

I Follow Jesus and have clearly said so.
I Follow Jesus' Doctrine and have clearly said so.
I have clearly said I Trust Jesus IS the Truth of God, and His Doctrines are the Truth of God...

I have NOT ONCE said to have or to follow my OWN Doctrine, as you have LIED and Claimed.

I have NOT ONCE said the HUMAN men YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO FOLLOW are without the Truth or without Gods Understanding of His WORD. Unlike you, I can not see the truths of dead men from centuries ago.

I prefer to FOLLOW the SOURCE...and you perfer to hang on the shirt-tails of men that "other" men have declared to be "saints"....

And YOU WANT TO CRITICIZE ME for choosing to FOLLOW Christ the Lord Jesus, and His Doctrine.....WHAT load of crap Mary.

Nothing whatsoever in Scripture teaches such garbage.

I Do not believe Following Jesus, His Doctrine, is at all Bizarre....and really do not care what YOU think, believe or do.
What you think, believe and do, is solely ACCOUNTED to YOU. Every False claim and lie you utter is accounted TO YOU...so enjoy the fruit of your labor...

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

The question was...
From Where do YOU get YOUR Understanding of Scripture.

Your answer...Christ's Church.

And what is Christ's Church according to you...? A make-up of People.

Since you are utterly incapable of answering a SIMPLE question....I will have to deduce you get YOUR Understanding of Scripture "From People". Whoop whoop. Scripture says no such thing.

Glory to God,
Taken

Sooooo, Christ’s Church ISN’T made up of people??
Is it made up of lobsters?? Space aliens??

Christ’s Church is made up of PEOPLE – it is His Body and HE is the Head (Col. 1:18, 1 Cor. 12).
Christ’s Church is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).
Christ’s Church is the FULLNESS of Him (Eph. 1:22-23).
Christ identified His very SELF with His Church (Acts 9:4-5).

In short, Einstein – Christ’s Church is CHRIST on earth.
THAT’S where I learned about Christ . . .