Why do bad things happen to good people?

[WalterandDebbie]

The second death IS UPON Christ's return from Heaven, in flaming fire, in the fullness of His Glory.

Again, In summary, this second death is a necessary, logical and sound end to the plan of God for mankind. It is: A time to leave a vivid example of the result of rebellion and sin.

Hebrews 10 KJV

 

[Helen]

Of course it was not "oversharing"! It was revealing because, now we will know not to Skype with you on Saturdays Tuesdays and Thursdays I would have to put my lower partial in Lol.

Oh I have it down to a fine art now actually... I don't show anything below the chin. Trouble is, with nothing but face on the screen my wrinkly face is magnified.

 

[Enoch111]

Im always afraid of clicking the wrong button.

You should be afraid of FB period. Mass Leftist manipulation is the name of their game.

The Alex Jones Show
Published on Jun 15, 2019
Surpassing 1984, Facebook has said they will punish people for their off-platform behavior! Big Zucker is always watching you and has the Big Tech levers to directly impact your life! Meanwhile, culturally-enriched Sweden is experiencing continual bombings, violent migrant gangs, and social unrest.

 

[Nancy]

Oh I have it down to a fine art now actually... I don't show anything below the chin. Trouble is, with nothing but face on the screen my wrinkly face is magnified.

Ahahaha...I'm sure your inner beauty will shine through, nonetheless ♥

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

What does the Bible say about Good people ? non are good in the eyes of God, nor do they know good, I recall is said.

I would say that another miss conception is about people being happy, are you happy ? should you be happy ?

I say that one should look to being content and then you have a foundation to build on with that attitude, don't look for happiness or you will be side tracked as to reality. many look to a bottle for happiness or pills drugs or madness chasing or intent on pumping up ones ego.

I do not care what anyone says or thinks, now most would think that rude, but it's not because what one thinks is only what they think, not know and I am only truly interested in what one knows, not what one thinks. when one says something I am not bothered really because what they may say does not or may not really cut the mustard.
Nowadays the majority are too concerned with verbally what one may say or said and can't see past the point they are so wound up with the words that they disregard the intent and it's the intent that is the important point to focus on, but no they will miss construe and make something out of something that was never their in the first place. maybe one did not communicate on a subject well or one did not have a handle on the subject at hand or what ever.

I was looking at the average age of people in Australia that people died in the 1800's Labours age was 19yo, Tradesmen 27yo, Gentry 44yo.

I was only talking to a mate about the people I knew who were killed just at work, all it took was one mistake, but sadly the message does not get truly through to many people really as there are still idiots, now they know the danger but they think it will never happen to them or that there actions will cause the problem. so we had people who we said that they could not come into our place of work, because we did not trust them to be their, they had to go but others that we had faith in it was ok, now that's discrimination put into practice and such was totally justified.

One can witness a lot of copping the wrong end of the stick or wrong doings in the world but God is not responsible for any of that.
God may goad you thou with the pricks on that Yoke but that's because of your unwillingness, but it's because of his ways are best for all.
If you are part of a community of God well get on with it, one does not shirk from your duty's as to God.
Gods Love is truly much more than mans love alone because such is only barking up the wrong tree. Jesus is Gods Love incarnate.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I still don't understand the "settings and permissions" thingy on FB.
Im always afraid of clicking the wrong button. Eeeeekkkkkk

Well...to set/give permission for who can see your information and posts is a separate thing from setting permissions for video chat.

You set those first permissions to say...allow or disallow who sees things, just "friends" (safest may be) or to allow "friends of friends" to see posts. You can even set different permissions for different posts, you can hide one particular post from one friend!

The permissions for video chat are separate. You download messenger and then set to allow messenger all of the permissions for phone, voice, etc. You have to allow them in order to video chat.

Mmm...was that too confusing...?

 

[Helen]

Well...to set/give permission for who can see your information and posts is a separate thing from setting permissions for video chat.

You set those first permissions to say...allow or disallow who sees things, just "friends" (safest may be) or to allow "friends of friends" to see posts. You can even set different permissions for different posts, you can hide one particular post from one friend!

The permissions for video chat are separate. You download messenger and then set to allow messenger all of the permissions for phone, voice, etc. You have to allow them in order to video chat.

Mmm...was that too confusing...?

Thanks, I have already got a app for Messenger , so I will see if I can go from there. ( worst case , phone works too...I always threaten to call @Nancy someday...then I forget to do it )

Will look for permissions. x

 

[bbyrd009]

Oh boy, this sounds so exiting! I wonder, can it be done with more than just 2 people @stunnedbygrace ? We could have some awesome fellowship! Always wanted to meet many on here, thought I would have to wait till heaven

ah, well if you arent doing it now you'll hafta wait until then, i guess right :::)))
(whats wrong with now?)

Where I'm going, you cannot come
i know it's hard, k
just do it
break that puppyup

 

[Triumph1300]

I am so sorry to hear this Gary. Is she a Christian?

yes, she is!

 

[Nancy]

ah, well if you arent doing it now you'll hafta wait until then, i guess right :::)))
(whats wrong with now?)

Where I'm going, you cannot come
i know it's hard, k
just do it
break that puppyup

"What's wrong with now"?
Well...as far as "heaven" is concerned...I happen to believe "heaven" WILL be on this earth...the "new earth"? And, this world sure ain't any kind of "heaven" - irl ;) - other than the hope that is in us, is there hope for this present world? I say not...
Are you now experiencing God's promises to the full? Or only temporally right now?
"Where I'm going, you cannot come" <---"eye has not seen, nor ear heard..." You can google.

Yes...so where is the rest of that script?? --->Simon Peter asked him, "Lord, where are you going?" Jesus replied, "Where I am going, you cannot follow now, but you will follow later." ♥

 

[bbyrd009]

"What's wrong with now"?
Well...as far as "heaven" is concerned...I happen to believe "heaven" WILL be on this earth...the "new earth"? And, this world sure ain't any kind of "heaven" - irl ;) - other than the hope that is in us, is there hope for this present world? I say not...
Are you now experiencing God's promises to the full? Or only temporally right now?
"Where I'm going, you cannot come" <---"eye has not seen, nor ear heard..." You can google.

Yes...so where is the rest of that script?? --->Simon Peter asked him, "Lord, where are you going?" Jesus replied, "Where I am going, you cannot follow now, but you will follow later." ♥

ok, ty. I gotta say my cup is pretty full, ya. I wish you the best of luck in your quest ok

 

[JPPT1974]

We need to keep on remembering that the Lord calls for us to know that it is how we deal with things. Even if they are beyond our control. He is wanting us to deal with how we react even if we can't control the situation to lean on Him.

 

[bbyrd009]

And, this world sure ain't any kind of "heaven" - irl ;) - other than the hope that is in us, is there hope for this present world? I say not...

ah well don't write this one in stone imo ok you are NT sposed to be in that world anyway aight
Empty your pockets and walk out your front door and se what happens ;)

ha ipad speaks lol

 

[Nancy]

ah well don't write this one in stone imo ok you are NT sposed to be in that world anyway aight
Empty your pockets and walk out your front door and se what happens ;)

ha ipad speaks lol

What's the "new heaven and new earth" mean to you Mark? If you choose to answer , please speak to me like I'm 7 years old, while yer at it ;)

 

[bbyrd009]

What's the "new heaven and new earth" mean to you Mark? If you choose to answer , please speak to me like I'm 7 years old, while yer at it ;)

um, empty your pockets and walk out your front door and see what happens?
lol
sorry, it's just the best way to change your mind i guess?

take them directions literally, man, specially if you claim to be a literalist, and you actually believe Jesus sent 72 out two-by-two, dunno how you're gonna defend taking that "spiritually?" Well, i mean yes, i know the v, k, you shouldn't literally leave the world sure, but really you will be going right into it right. The opposite of the doing the lord of the manor thing or the safe haven man cave whatever, i think is the point.

put yourself in situations where you are not in control

We naturally seek out ($) safety, and places where we are most comfortable, meaning usually where we are the "owner" or "head" so to speak, right. Like "no one can tell me what to do hear?" You can even watch a kid founding the world go through this change, when they start identifying with their bedroom or some other particular space over like being out in it, as a rule i mean?

So, the New Heaven is a good description imo of when you have broken up Nehushtan, your whole like Pantheon just changes, Satan is no longer higher than you in your mind and becomes like sort of an annoying pet dog Bc he's right, Brian maybe, yeh, Bri, and New Earth well dang even literally the world at least has changed completely like twice since i was a kid? Lol, even if i doubt that's what New Earth reps, but that would be like a literal analog prolly.

Spiritually speaking the Erets is going to become new when the New Heaven is better realized imo, and our pantheons--which takes admitting that Satan is perceived as more powerful than you right now, right, he is currently an enemy that basically strikes or "attacks" at will and you have to like fight him or something right, or worse yet take the fight to Satan, prolly a billion hits for that i bet lol, that's a best-seller every single time never gets old, right.

So look i understand this prolly sounds like "is this guy saying that all those miracles...but, muh miracles lol...all that stuff in the NT i was counting on--to make me like, what ppl,let's admit it, we wanna be The Spiritual Bad-Ass someday, right, walking through walls and whatnot, right, no harm in admitting it, shed a little light on it--is that all just a lie?

Well see, we wanna ship-in-a-harbor behind our walls as not a little break but as an MO, right, and then we wanna imagine how we are going to like magically walk through walls someday when, when...when what? When Jesus comes back and does something magical for us? Twinkles His Nose from on High? After it is finished?

So i'm hear to tell ya ok, i sure don't have the best grasp of it yet but near as i can tell so far the NT does not overstate a single concept that we are seeking for ok, you...vij? Where is vij anyway, guess we better see huh? Ok Nancy, whom i relate to vij then lol you are going to do greater things i have no doubt ok, as soon as you walk away, and incidentally take that ritual baptism talky-talk which takes like twenty taps to write on an iPad literally too, right?

Now would i literally walk out my front door and leave my hometown where i am so comfortable and respected if i was like oh 70 say? I doubt it, but i would also examine the reasons why, and prolly take some intermediate step in that direction, get out of your comfort zone is maybe a big part of that lesson anyway? I see many older "active" women especially pick up on the vibe, bump into them at our black farmers markets and stuff, lotta anabaptists up here, but anyway that's kind of different, that's like for later when you can carry money, the second time, after the not carrying any money lesson is absorbed i guess? When money becomes no object iow.

See when you got no money and you're in a strange town your whole MO just has to change right, you can't pretend to be the boss of jack huh. And boy are you gonna get pissed at God before it's all over lol, i tell you what. You are gonna be pretty sure that whole God thing is a bunch a hooey and that someone just Made Him Up more than once, lemme tell ya!

When you're out there and literally having to trust Abba--well, He'll prolly still be God at that point, but anyway--for your next meal and you haven't eaten in a couple days? Bc God is going to feed you when you need to eat, not when you want to eat lol. Translation be prepared to go without food for yup about three days at least once

Earth is just going to change, ok, drastically, in a way that i guess dipping your toe in or having an out, a credit card for "emergencies" or whatever, just isn't going to manifest i guess? yikes, wrote a book here lol sorry. Night is coming when no man can work so maybe do some senior yoga for a year first, if you have physical complaints that might be an excuse. They maybe seem insurmountable or inevitable but i tell you that's strictly Bc we accidentally conditioned our minds to getting comfy with it, and now Believe and so thus Project an image of ourselves (to ourselves) as having ________ or not having ____________ or whatever. The movie Heal? Think diff, be diff imo

so, yikes, the seven year old explanation i guess lol

 

[bbyrd009]

Heal documentary | A film about the power of the mind
Ima watch it again right now,

 

[Nancy]

Okay, gotta do this one in two parts.
Part 1:

um, empty your pockets and walk out your front door and see what happens? lol

Ha, I do THAT like almost everyday :) I have more than I need even though there are some in this way rich country who would call me low middle class...and that is more than fine with me. I am in need of nothing more than my "daily bread" ;) If Jesus is all I have then I have all I need...dunno who "coined" that!

"take them directions literally, man, specially if you claim to be a literalist, and you actually believe Jesus sent 72 out two-by-two, dunno how you're gonna defend taking that "spiritually?" Well, i mean yes, i know the v, k, you shouldn't literally leave the world sure, but really you will be going right into it right. The opposite of the doing the lord of the manor thing or the safe haven man cave whatever, i think is the point."
Well, I do not take everything in His Word as literally or symbolically - I tend to see both?
I guess this is where I will say that we are IN the world but not OF it. Jesus said...GO..." We should be placing ourselves IN the world to further His message, yes? I know you know that Mark and, I prob just misread/understood that part, fwiw ♥

We naturally seek out ($) safety, and places where we are most comfortable, meaning usually where we are the "owner" or "head" so to speak, right. Like "no one can tell me what to do hear?" You can even watch a kid founding the world go through this change, when they start identifying with their bedroom or some other particular space over like being out in it, as a rule i mean?
Well, this is a cash economy, I, personally do not spend a nano second worrying about ANY of those things, the tangibles, as they have already been and will be taken care of :). "Seek ye first..." ? And, yes...we do naturally seek out the places, people that we are most comfortable with...nothing wrong with that, as long as we are not shunning those whom we would have in the "old man". I see ALL walks of life at least 3 days a week, on a face to face basis. They smell, they are alcoholics, they lie, cheat and steal. But God has given me a love for them nonetheless. Ha, go figure!
I am used to being a listener, an observer of people...I guess I'm a people watcher! :. Never ever wanted to be a "boss" of anyone and it doesn't matter if someone tries to "tell me what to do". I am told what to do, and micromanaged at that, lol at least 3 days a week...I do it with a smile and, if I know a better, quicker or safer (for me) way to do the job I was given, I will smile, nod and do whatever I WANT TO any how, lol. The job is done, well and swift and nobody is the wiser (cept for God )
"So, the New Heaven is a good description imo of when you have broken up Nehushtan, your whole like Pantheon just changes, Satan is no longer higher than you in your mind and becomes like sort of an annoying pet dog, Brian maybe, yeh, Bri, and New Earth well dang even literally the world at least has changed completely like twice since i was a kid? Lol, even if i doubt that's what New Earth reps, but that would be like a literal analog prolly."
I must admit that I know pretty much nothing, for sure about The New Earth...I do know that this earth and the heavens will "pass away" when Jesus Christ returns - to destroy his enemies and reclaim His Kingdom - AMEN! I've NO idea if the New Earth will be just this one made over or a whole new Earth will be. I'm about as certain of that as I am of what our corruptible bodies will become when "glorified"...which is, not so much...yet! ♥ Okay, don't know Brian, lol...and as far as satan is concerned...he is not to be "played" with in our own power...remember, even Michael the Archangel did not rebuke satan directly he said "God rebuke you , satan". I KNOW the power he has and, without invoking the name of Jesus, with authority, satan would smash us.
"Spiritually speaking the Erets is going to become new when the New Heaven is better realized imo, and our pantheons--which takes admitting that Satan is perceived as more powerful than you right now, right, he is currently an enemy that basically strikes or "attacks" at will and you have to like fight him or something right, or worse yet take the fight to Satan, prolly a billion hits for that i bet lol, that's a best-seller every single time never gets old, right."
How does one have a better realization of the New Heaven?
When you say Erets, do you mean the actual, physical, soil and water and rock Earth? (had to def look THAT one up!!!) I kind of see a "scorched earth" thing gonna happen maybe? Fire, brimstone, nuclear war...
I would say that the pantheons ARE satan right now! Ha! And, nope...why would ANYBODY taunt the most evil entity ever?!! We can certainly pray against satan but we should never engage him in dialog...ever! IMO that is.
TO BE CONTINUED :)

 

[Nancy]

@bbyrd009 PART TWO :)
"So look i understand this prolly sounds like "is this guy saying that all those miracles...but, muh miracles lol...all that stuff in the NT i was counting on--to make me like, what ppl,let's admit it, we wanna be The Spiritual Bad-Ass someday, right, walking through walls and whatnot, right, no harm in admitting it, shed a little light on it--is that all just a lie?"
Hahaha...well yes, this could def describe many Christians today. If one really want's to be a "spiritual Bad-Ass" they better be VERY sure of what they tout as, we know they will be held to account more so than we. Count me out of THAT! lol.
"Is it all just a lie?"
What, the miracles we were told would happen through those who follow Him?
If that's what you mean then...I honestly do not know although...ANYTHING good comes from His hand and He said we are all appointed to a time to die...physically BUT...He hears our prayers and I have seen them answered in that respect enough times to KNOW He heals. Through human hands? Never seen it other than and I will not put God in a box so...I don't know.


"Well see, we wanna ship-in-a-harbor behind our walls as not a little break but as an MO, right, and then we wanna imagine how we are going to like magically walk through walls someday when, when...when what? When Jesus comes back and does something magical for us? Twinkles His Nose from on High? After it is finished?"
I do not have pie in the sky imaginings of what will be when all is said and done, lol...all I DO know is that what ever He has waiting for us will be very good indeed! I don't need to fly like a bird, or walk through walls...that stuff never even enters my mind! Makes me think of many fiction movies though
"So i'm hear to tell ya ok, i sure don't have the best grasp of it yet but near as i can tell so far the NT does not overstate a single concept that we are seeking for ok, you...vij? Where is vij anyway, guess we better see huh? Ok Nancy, whom i relate to vij then lol you are going to do greater things i have no doubt ok, as soon as you walk away, and incidentally take that ritual baptism talky-talk which takes like twenty taps to write on an iPad literally too, right?"
I dunno, have not seen vij in a bit. And...not following you here...

"Now would i literally walk out my front door and leave my hometown where i am so comfortable and respected if i was like oh 70 say? I doubt it, but i would also examine the reasons why, and prolly take some intermediate step in that direction, get out of your comfort zone is maybe a big part of that lesson anyway? I see many older "active" women especially pick up on the vibe, bump into them at our black farmers markets and stuff, lotta anabaptists up here, but anyway that's kind of different, that's like for later when you can carry money, the second time, after the not carrying any money lesson is absorbed i guess? When money becomes no object iow."
Money has already become no object to me, not that I have expendable income, not in any sense but in the sense that money does not motivate me any longer, for some time now and, if He sees fit to bless me that way...this "new man" actually WANT'S to bless others with it. That was NOT the old nancy.
So, you are calling me an older active woman?? Lol...yes, older...than you and, not nearly as active as I COULD be were it not for many surgeries and bone breaks. Hmmm...I just might be an anabaptist too BTW, Lol.
"See when you got no money and you're in a strange town your whole MO just has to change right, you can't pretend to be the boss of jack huh. And boy are you gonna get pissed at God before it's all over lol, i tell you what. You are gonna be pretty sure that whole God thing is a bunch a hooey and that someone just Made Him Up more than once, lemme tell ya! When you're out there and literally having to trust Abba--well, He'll prolly still be God at that point, but anyway--for your next meal and you haven't eaten in a couple days?"
Trials, just another opportunity to TRUST Him and strengthen our faith. And, if He has gotten me out of some un-get-outable situations - oh and has He ever, then how could I not trust Him even in the above situation? Especially in the above situation.

"Earth is just going to change, ok, drastically, in a way that i guess dipping your toe in or having an out, a credit card for "emergencies" or whatever, just isn't going to manifest i guess? yikes, wrote a book here lol sorry. Night is coming when no man can work so maybe do some senior yoga for a year first, if you have physical complaints that might be an excuse. They maybe seem insurmountable or inevitable but i tell you that's strictly Bc we accidentally conditioned our minds to getting comfy with it, and now Believe and so thus Project an image of ourselves (to ourselves) as having ________ or not having ____________ or whatever. The movie Heal? Think diff, be diff imo"
I do believe very much so that our emotions and thoughts have a huge impact on the physicality of our bodies, and our minds. As well as what we put into our bodies and exercise. Oh yes, and plenty of water Get it while ya can as, I am thinking our next war will be over WATER! JMHO.
I hope I addressed at least SOME of your post Mark, lol. ♥
"so, yikes, the seven year old explanation i guess lol"
Hmmm....7 year olds are pretty smart dang smart then! Had to read some para's a couple times, lol but, not too bad...you be the judge of that ;)

 

[bbyrd009]

"I kind of see a "scorched earth" thing gonna happen maybe? Fire, brimstone, nuclear war.."

What you see is what you get

 

[Nancy]