Taken
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You presume and imagine.
1) I said;
"Man in the OT did not call on the name of the Lord Jesus or confess belief in Him, to become saved."
Well? Did they? No. The Name Jesus had not been revealed to them!
2) I said;
'Men in the OT revealed their belief and faithfulness to God, by and through obedience to the law."
Did the following facts need to be said?
God is the one who gives a man faith.
God knows all things.
God knows a mans heart.
God knows a mans actions/works.
How did OT men reveal (show their fruit, let other men know ) IF they believed IN God, were being faithful TO God?
How? By and through obedience to the law.
When men in the OT, were not being obediennt to the law....then what?
Another man would declare that man was SINNING.
How was SINNING determined in the OT?
Obedience TO the law or lack of obedience TO the law.
So, IF an accusation was made, that a man was SINNING, then what?
The accuser, and the one accused would go to the priest, and the priest would hear both the accuser and the accused and determine IF the man SINNED.
If it was determined the man SINNED, then what?
The priest would use the law, the law of curses, (punishments), and pronounce the judgement against the accused.
And whatever the Curse (judgement) law required of the accused would be carried out.
The LAW, did not justify a man.
The LAW, did not give a man faith.
Nor did I say that the LAW did either of those things.
You should have recognized that....
And you should have been assured, I was not saying that....by the following.
Post # 981, I quoted your comment, and responded.
You said;
I said;
Sure. I did not say otherwise.
There is ONLY ONE WAY to be Saved.
It is ALWAYS "by and through" the "word of God"
OT men "KNEW" "the word of God"
By and Through; (in brief)
Hearing, Visions, Receiving Faith from God, Teachers, (ie more hearing), Experiencing the results of Following the word of God, and some by Reading the word of God.
Reading? WHAT?
Hearing? WHAT?
What they "heard and read" was called WHAT? ..... the LAW.
What God wanted them to KNOW, was written in Their "books/scrolls/writings" was the LAW, and was what God was requiring for them to KNOW and OBEY...WHY?
For men to establish a harmonious and acceptable relationship ...
Between a man and God
And
Between man and man.
As the Hebrews / Jews moved farther and farther apart; Copies of the LAW were made for the Hebrews/Jews to keep and teach to younger generations, the same LAWS.
As the Hebrews / Jews continued spreading out to different lands, Many became Influenced by Gentile Ways, (ideas, customs, traditions, etc. and also subjection to Gentile Civil Laws).
The Gentiles, were NOT given Gods Laws.
The Gentiles, were NOT considering His word.
The Gentiles, were NOT considering establishing a relationship with God...
Nor considering establishing relationships with other men, according to Gods precepts.
When the Lord God, sent forth out from Him, His word, IN the FLESH, in the likeness AS a man...... Gods own word, was revealed; His Word in the Flesh, that God Himself called;
Jesus, called His Son, called God with mankind.
Jesus Himself selected Jewish men, to hear Him speak, (His Doctrine) and learn from Him; Gods Truth, and Learn mysteries that HAD been KEPT SECRET from OT men....
And such selected Jewish men carried on Jesus' teachings. In droves, the Gentiles have overwhelmingly accepted "the word of God in print, via hearing, and His Word in the Flesh".
Fewer Jewish men have accepted "the Word of God in the Flesh, ie the Lord Jesus".
OT men had the LAW, as their Uniform guide, of Gods written word, of HOW TO become acceptable to God.
THAT ^ has not overwhelmingly changed....pertaining to the Jews.
Jesus did not destroy the law.
What overwhelmingly has changed....pertains to the Gentiles, being introduced to the "word of God" and belief, the Word of God was revealed to the world, IN the Flesh.
Jews who continue Under the Law, DO SO, as DID their forefathers, whose SALVATION was given them, AFTER they had LIVED their natural lives IN belief IN God and HIS word.
Any man who "was under the Law'; who "was not under the Law"; WHO truthfully in their Heart Confess Belief, IN God, IN Christ Jesus,
(Ie Gods Word), receive their SALVATION, IMMEDIATELY.
For any man to Truly Believe, he does so, by the Faith given him, by and through God.
So is there ONLY ONE WAY for "any" man to receive SALVATION? Yes.
ONLY by the mans true belief, IN God, IN His word.
And the KEY, to a mystery, IS:
Salvation is offered to mankind.
Salvation is not forced on any man.
Some men receive their Salvation at the end of their natural lives.
Some men receive their Salvation during their natural lives.
If you did not understand what I SAID...
You could have asked....instead of making accusations....
The Scriptures are for ALL men. Jews and Gentiles. But you should know Which passages applies to YOU, to an Atheist, to a follower who is not converted, to a follower who is converted, to a Jew who remains under the Law.
Glory to God,
Taken
