Once Saved....always Saved - Results of Questionnaire.

[BreadOfLife]

P.S.
You said Jesus was not always humble but scolded people, justifying yourself.
Are you also going to Calvary like He did?

I'm at Calvary with Jesus at every mass.

 

[BreadOfLife]

If we're disciples of Christ , we're required to follow Him, which means that we will be transformed
And become more like Him. The word you might recognize is conversion.
You're to become more loving, as Jesus would want.
John 13:35

Yup - and I am to be NO more tolerant of lies than He is.
I'm only here to expose lies.

 

[bbyrd009]

ha you been having that same convo for 14 years now, huh
if you were an Eskimo i could sell you ice lol, just wrap it in Cardinal Red i guess

i guess the disconnect comes in whether your beliefs and expectations are being realized today or not, something like that.
If they are all about tomorrow, i am not too interested

iow if they mirror a child's understanding of Christmas, or etc

 

[GodsGrace]

I'm at Calvary with Jesus at every mass.

I know what you mean.
But you're not on that cross. So please don't compare yourself to Jesus.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I know what you mean.
But you're not on that cross. So please don't compare yourself to Jesus.

I didn't.
YOU compared me to Him.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yup - and I am to be NO more tolerant of lies than He is.
I'm only here to expose lies.

No.
You're here to give Catholicism, which holds many truths, a bad name.
You're here to call people denigrating names.
You're here to turn many against Catholicism.
If you want to correct errors, you should do it as Jesus would...
As one speaking with authority and love for his fellow man.

 

[GodsGrace]

I didn't.
YOU compared me to Him.

The point was that you should emulate him.
In the good He did.
Not use the Woes as an excuse to mistreat people.

 

[Taken]

confessionless salvation imo, and best of luck with it; of course i also understand that you do not perceive it that way, quite likely because you are not interested in abusing the concept in that manner, too,

There is a simple method of Confessing TO the Lord.
Believe in your Heart....not talking about the Mind....but rather the thoughts of the Heart.
Confess your Belief, and even thou one IS a SINNER, for (not believing), the Lord will Hear a man and Forgive the man and MAKE, their body, soul & spirit WHOLE.

Crucified body, washed, cleansed, Sanctified.
Soul Saved.
Spirit brought into Everylasting life.

(It's the man who has to "work on his own MIND"....making his MINDS thoughts subject to his Hearts thoughts....that;
FYI is where the Spirit of God IS (ie Christ),
Teaching and feeding the mans new spirit, in his (new circumcised Heart); the Word of God, the Wisdom of God, the Understanding of God of His Written Knowledge. )

It is this method, that a man "OVERCOMES" the world; and that man Forever WITH the Lord. First IN SPIRIT, and Later, visually.

but
i cannot agree with any notions that Christ can be accepted with one's mouth, one time, for all time, and be of any effect,
absent future confession when one then needs to accomplish it, as Scripture dictates, confess your sins one to another; confession leads to salvation, etc.

Look closely...
1) the caveat...."IF"...CONFESS
2) the effect if "IF" is accomplished....
....."Thou Shalt"
3) another caveat....Believe IN THINE HEART
4) the effect if "AND Believe..." is accomplished.....
"Thou Shalt............BE SAVED".

Rom 10:9
That "IF" thou shalt "CONFESS" with thy MOUTH the Lord Jesus, "AND" shalt "BELIEVE IN THINE HEART that God hast raised him from the dead...
Thou SHALT BE SAVED.

WHY?

Rom 10:9
For (ie Because) with the HEART believeth unto RIGHTEOUSNESS.
And (because) with the MOUTH confession is made unto SALVATION.

Imo those who are in Christ no longer sin

The Whole intent IS God converting a man, from BEING SIN, Being Born in SIN, "TO" being FORGIVEN, Converted, Internally Transformed, Externally Justified (cleaned, sanctified, crucified, kept with Christ), freed from EVER sinning AGAIN,
SO THAT;

When Jesus returns....the man IS PREPARED to BE redeemed....His Body Glorified; that the man CAN THEN SEE the LORD.

In the meantime - while the man is STILL physically Alive.....THE MAN CAN SERVE the Lord.....
BY LEARNING "precepts" of the Lord.

The precepts of the LORD, ARE CONTAINED in JEWISH TEACHINGS, IN Scripture.

THe precepts of the LORD, ARE THINGS, which saved and born again men CAN DO, that pleases the LORD...
BECAUSE
It Glorifies His NAME, on Earth before other men.

Man, particularly, Hebrews/Jews have been taught Precepts of the Lord, SINCE the beginning of man.

Hebrews made them "LAWS".
Jews continued with those "LAWS".

For Jews....WHO DO NOT DO the Lords Precepts....IT IS COUNTED UNTO HIM AS A SIN.

You can read this same in the OT, and the NT, as Jews were Learning ABOUT Jesus.

One Jew admonishing another Jew, accusing him of SIN....regarding the Precepts of the Lord.

Christians TODAY, do the SAME THING.
Awe, tsk, tsk.....he did this, he didn't do that, blah, blah....awe...he sinned....he sinned...blah, blah.

Why? Why are Christians ACCUSING men Born of God...OF committing SIN?

Why are Christians "CLAIMING" THEY are born again ....AND STILL COMMITTING SIN?

Why have Born Again Christians'....supposedly reading and studying the Word of God NOT KNOW...

1 ) THEY have BEEN FREED OF SIN.
2) THEY CAN NOT commit SIN ANYMORE.
3 ) THERE IS NO "PENALTY" of SIN accounted to them regarding "Precepts".

If they DO the Lords Precepts....GREAT...they Glorifiy the Lords Name.
And He shall greatly reward them.

If they DO NOT DO the Lords Precepts.....their loss...they shall not be a GREAT servant of the Lord....and shall NOT be Greatly rewarded for uh, no efforts on their part.

THEY DO NOT LOSE SALVATION...THEY SHALL lose out on Rewards.

Why is there NO "SIN" accounted TO THEM?

Because ... SIN IS A "CURSE" of the Law...

And ... BECAUSE

Gal 3:13
Christ HATH REDEEMED US "FROM" the CURSE OF THE LAW,

How?

Gal 3:13
Being made a CURSE "FOR" us.

When a man is saved AND born again...He is REDEEMED from the CURSE of the LAW...

Which is to say...THE CURSE...IS the consequence FOR SIN.

When Moses wrote the Laws...in a Book
Aaron was appointed Priest...for him to write
In a Book...the SINS; ie the CURSES; for disobedience, to Moses written Laws, and the consequences for disobedience.

Jews of Jesus day....were LEARNING this; it was New to them.

Everything about God and Jesus was New to the Gentiles.

Today...Christians will say...I'm not under the Law. Ask them what Law. They don't know...and WHY they continue to Claim;

They are saved, born again, and Still sin.

A man WHO becomes saved and born again...
"IS" Born of God, BY Gods SEED, and WITH the Power of God, (who IS Christ). THEY are forever changed. They SIN NO MORE.

1 John 3: 9
WHOSOEVER.....means WHOSOEVER...
IS born of God, doth NOT COMMIT SIN;

Why?

Because "HIS SEED" (the Lords seed) REMAINS in that man.

Which is to say...the Lords SPIRIT is IN THAT man....the Lords SPIRIT keeps the man FROM SINNING ever again.

Because he (the man) IS BORN OF GOD.

So back to the precepts....are those SINS, accounted to a man born of God? No.
Jesus REDEEMED men from those being A SIN, unto the man Born of God.

So what DID the Lord FORGIVE a man for, when He saved the man?

1) NOT believing in God
2) CORRUPTING his soul, BY the mans disbelief.

So what can a man WHO IS BORN OF GOD...
NEVER AGAIN DO?

1) NOT believe IN GOD.
2) CORRUPT his soul, BECAUSE Never again can that man NOT believe in God.

Why? Because the Power of God dwells within the man, AND KEEPS THE MAN IN FULL FAITHFULLNESS UNTO THE LORD ONLY.

will then also be misinterpreted, changed into 'i am now a perfectionist/perfect" rather than
"i now understand how to practice Grace when i sin."

Men who are converted....
1) their BODY is crucified, washed, CLEANSED, sanctified, justified to be redeemed.
2) their SOUL RESTORED to? Very Good...
As it was when God created all things and called them "VERY GOOD".
3) their natural spirit, becomes BORN AGAIN, via Gods SEED, an everlasting ALIVE spirit.

The man is MADE....converted....and again called "GOOD"....as he was when God created mankind.

A man who is ACCOUNTED, as "PERFECT", is a man WHO....is the FAITHFUL SERVANT....
WHO...DOES DO the Lords Precepts....THAT Accomplishes....Glorifying Gods Name on Earth.

The purpose for glorifying Gods Name ON EARTH....is so that other men may HEAR, and ALSO elect to become Converted.

Every man Who becomes Converted....is one who is HELPING the Lord accomplish OVERCOMING the World with Gods Light, over coming Darkness.

And FYI, every converted man Becomes;
Gods Inheritance.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

No.
You're here to give Catholicism, which holds many truths, a bad name.
You're here to call people denigrating names.
You're here to turn many against Catholicism.
If you want to correct errors, you should do it as Jesus would...
As one speaking with authority and love for his fellow man.

And the lying continues . . .
I don't call anybody "denigrating names."

I respond to everybody here according to their charity or lack thereof.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The point was that you should emulate him.
In the good He did.
Not use the Woes as an excuse to mistreat people.

I'm not "mistreating" anybody.

As I stated before - I simply respond in kind.
If somebody wants to have a charitable conversation - that suits me just fine. I have MANY charitable conversations with people like ByGrace and others.

However - when posters like mjrhealth and Stranger and Rollo and bbyrd start with their moronic attacks - I expose them.
There are too many people being seduced by lies . . .

 

[GodsGrace]

I'm not "mistreating" anybody.

As I stated before - I simply respond in kind.
If somebody wants to have a charitable conversation - that suits me just fine. I have MANY charitable conversations with people like ByGrace and others.

However - when posters like mjrhealth and Stranger and Rollo and bbyrd start with their moronic attacks - I expose them.
There are too many people being seduced by lies . . .

You should not respond in kind.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Just post what is correct.

 

[Taken]

You're right.

Some people are here to call anything that is not Catholic teaching...wrong, and call the person anti-Catholic. Little does such a person know, men who are PRO Christ, give little consideration to what the Catholics do.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I'm at Calvary with Jesus at every mass.

What is Calvary?
The word is not even in the Bible.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I'm not "mistreating" anybody.

As I stated before - I simply respond in kind.
If somebody wants to have a charitable conversation - that suits me just fine. I have MANY charitable conversations with people like ByGrace and others.

However - when posters like mjrhealth and Stranger and Rollo and bbyrd start with their moronic attacks - I expose them.
There are too many people being seduced by lies . . .

There have been several popes that were homosexual.
Would you call them holy father?

 

[Taken]

What is Calvary?
The word is not even in the Bible.

It's another word for Golgotha, the place where Jesus was crucified, ie the Hill of the Skulls. Why anyone would be there every mass, IDK, Jesus' body is in Heaven, not at His crufixion site, and His Spirit is Within the Hearts of born again men.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

There have been several popes that were homosexual.
Would you call them holy father?

Really?
Name one - and provide proof . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

It's another word for Golgotha, the place where Jesus was crucified, ie the Hill of the Skulls. Why anyone would be there every mass, IDK, Jesus' body is in Heaven, not at His crufixion site, and His Spirit is Within the Hearts of born again men.

God Bless,
Taken

At each mass, we are taken to the Crucifixion of our Lord - His eternal sacrifice.
Like Paul - we preach Christ crucified which is a stumbling block to the Jews and a FOLLY to gentiles like yourself (1 Corinthians 1:23) . . .

 

[Helen]

What is Calvary?
The word is not even in the Bible.

Ouch!!

Luke 23:33
“And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.”

 

[BreadOfLife]

You should not respond in kind.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Just post what is correct.

I am . . .

1 Tim 5:20
Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

 

[GodsGrace]

It's another word for Golgotha, the place where Jesus was crucified, ie the Hill of the Skulls. Why anyone would be there every mass, IDK, Jesus' body is in Heaven, not at His crufixion site, and His Spirit is Within the Hearts of born again men.

God Bless,
Taken

At the Mass, the crucifixion is remembered.
It's a remembrance,,,as if the congregation were standing at the cross.
If one understands this, it's actually very beautiful.
I think it would be nice to receive communion at every service like some churches do.