If the ones who morally degraded the human race to that extent were mere humans, there would have been no reason to flood the world to wipe them out. We can say with some certainty that the world of that time was not populated to the extent that it is now….and we can see in 2 Kings 19:35 that a single angel wiped out the entire Assyrian army of 185,000 soldiers in one night….Jesus also said he could appeal to his Father to send 12 legions of angels if necessary (a Roman legion was about 6000 men) ……Can we imagine what power 12 legions of angels could inflict?….so there was more to the reason for the extent of a global flood that most people realize.
The faithful angels who materialized human bodies to bring messages to God‘s servants on earth, ate and drank what was served to them out of hospitality both by Abraham as his nephew Lot to whom they were also sent. It is not a stretch of our imagination that those human bodies used by the demons could copulate and produce offspring….not through just lust but with violence…and they did not produce normal human children, but a gigantic race of monstrous bullies…..beings who had no right to exist because they were not God’s creation.…and therefore not covered by Christ’s future sacrifice because they were not Adam’s children.
This is also an interesting aspect….because those whom God chose to rule with Christ are also called God’s “sons”…..but also Christ’s “brothers”. These undergo a new birth to become what they were not originally created to be…..spirit creatures. In God’s creation we see both material beings and immaterial beings who are designed to live in the realm in which they were created.
Somewhere along the way, the idea of an immortal soul replaced the Jewish expectation of a resurrection, and an ‘afterlife’ in full consciousness was thought to be experienced straight away. This is not in any way related to the Jewish belief in “Sheol”, which in the Tanakh is translated as “the grave”….no one in Sheol was conscious or active. (Eccl 9:5, 6, 10)
Once this belief was adopted, then began the invention of places for immortal, conscious “souls” to go. And the soul then became a spirit who was sent to places that were intended to be metaphorical, but that now became literal. (Hellfire from Gehenna)
One of the devil’s most successful lies was that “you surely will not die”….and people to this day still believe it. His demons can even impersonate the dead to keep reinforcing it.
Yes, the Nephilim were very real….material beings created by their angelic fathers, but eliminated completely by the flood, which also had the benefit of taking away any kind of material thing in which they could seek refuge. The only thing above water was the ark and all on board had God’s protection. Makes you wonder about the protective value of water.…? There were only air breathers on board the ark. Nothing in the ocean was threatened or needed protection.
So what does it mean to be a “son of God”? One can be created that way, or recreated that way.
Isnt that the reason for a “new birth”?
You’re very sharp. I respect that you’ve seen through the sanitized Sunday School version and the neutered adult Bible study takes on Genesis 6 these days. You know the Nephilim were real, you know the Watchers fell, and you know this war didn’t end with a rainbow. But there are two places your framework pulls back in my opnion — and they happen to be the two places modern religious systems fear the most: (1) the ongoing influence of Nephilim corruption, and (2) the full spiritual authority given to believers in Christ to confront it. Let’s break both down.
1. The Nephilim weren’t fully wiped out.
Genesis 6:4 doesn’t stutter:
“The Nephilim were on the earth in those days — and also afterward…”
“
Afterward” = post-Flood.
That’s not interpretation. That’s
Scripture.
Later, in
Numbers 13:33, the Israelite spies say:
“We saw the Nephilim there… we seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes.”
These weren’t just big humans. They were
hybrid remnants. Survivors or new offspring of a second incursion.
You see their legacy in:
The
Anakim
The
Rephaim
Goliath
Og of Bashan, whose bed was over 13 feet long
The influence of the Watchers didn’t vanish in the Flood — it
mutated,
hid, and
infiltrated post-Flood bloodlines. It bled forward through the ages, possibly embedding itself in the elite families and occult power structures that still manipulate the world today. Genesis doesn’t say 'afterward' by accident — it says it because the threat survived.
2. Demons are not fallen angels — they’re disembodied Nephilim.
This is key. You and I agree: the Watchers were bound.
But their
offspring — the Nephilim — were not.
Their giant bodies drowned in the Flood, but their
spirits — twisted, half-breed abominations — had nowhere to go.
1 Enoch 15:8–12 lays it out:
“The spirits of the giants… shall be called evil spirits on the earth… their dwelling shall be upon the earth… They shall afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction.”
That’s demonology straight from the earliest believers.
They are:
Born of both
heaven and earth
Rejected by both
Doomed to wander
Rage-filled, unredeemable, and obsessed with human defilement
Not ghosts. Not fallen angels.
Demonic Nephilim — the cursed residue of a forbidden union.
3. You said the supernatural is a trap. And you’re right — for the unprepared.
It
is a trap — a deadly one.
The supernatural is not a playground for the curious.
It is a battlefield soaked in blood, and if you step into it unprepared and without the armor of God, you will be devoured.
You’re absolutely right to say people should avoid it
unless they are born of the Spirit and sealed by Christ. It’s not for dabblers, mystics, or lukewarm churchgoers who confuse Netflix demons with the real thing.
But where you retreat, Scripture advances.
For those in Christ — it is
not a trap. It is our
calling.
Jesus didn’t avoid it.
He
confronted it — publicly, aggressively, and without apology.
Mark 5 — He casts out a
legion of demons, who beg Him for mercy.
Luke 4 — He rebukes a spirit with a single command.
Matthew 10:1 — He gives His followers
authority to do the same.
Ephesians 6 —
“We wrestle not against flesh and blood…”
Avoiding the supernatural doesn’t protect you.
It just ensures you’re
disarmed when it comes for your children, your mind, your media, and your church.
Yes — it’s dangerous.
But in Christ, we were
born into danger — not to run from it, but to
confront it with fire.
4. About Sheol and the soul.
You're right that the ancient Hebrew understanding of
Sheol was shadowy. But you're only telling half the story. The New Testament
shatters that ambiguity.
In
Luke 16, Jesus describes a conscious, suffering man in torment — not “asleep.”
In
Revelation 6, the souls of the martyrs cry out from beneath the altar — not in silence.
In
Matthew 17, Jesus speaks to Moses and Elijah — not to corpses or metaphors.
Paul says to be “absent from the body is to be
present with the Lord” (2 Cor 5:8).
The soul
does not cease. The body sleeps — the soul
waits.
To say otherwise is to deny the full revelation of Scripture and fall back into a post-Watchtower rationalism that neuters the spiritual war at hand.
5. The final deception will be Nephilim 2.0
You said:
“The original rebels are intent on leading our children astray because their own were taken from them.”
That’s
absolutely true — and it’s already happening.
What do you think modern elites are doing?
Transhumanism — “we will put chips in our brains and we will become gods”
CRISPR/DNA editing — genetic abominations, rewriting the image of God, Nephilim now in test tubes
Pharmakeia — chemically induced spirit portals.
Psychedelics. DMT. LSD. Ketamine therapy. Ayahuasca rituals. “Microdosing for spiritual clarity.”
These aren’t harmless trends.
They are
chemically induced spirit portals — designed to
bypass the Holy Spirit and open the soul to the
doctrines of demons.
Even SSRIs, antipsychotics, and benzos — while not hallucinogenic —
alter perception, dull the conscience, and can leave people vulnerable to spiritual oppression - especially when abused or used without discernment.
Media, music, and AI.
These are no longer just tools — they are Watcher technologies resurrected
The children of the fallen aren’t gone — they’re
being resurrected in code, in silicon, in labs, and maybe even in altered wombs.
This time they won’t come as giants.
They’ll come as gods of “
progress”.
6. Final Word to any lurkers reading this:
The flood didn’t end the story — it
set the stage for the final confrontation.
And the Nephilim didn’t vanish —
they just changed costumes.
Let this be clear:
Avoiding the supernatural won’t save you.
But neither will curiosity or bravado.
Only
Christ can save you — and only the
sealed, the
surrendered, the
Spirit-filled have any business stepping into that battlefield.
But once you're His —
Once you’re crucified with Him, filled with His Spirit, and armed with His Word —
You don’t run from the darkness.
You walk into it —
armed, covered, and unafraid.
Because the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead
now lives in you —
And the demons know it.
