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Zao is life

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Exactly as Revelation 20:6b tells us.
Priests have a function to act on behalf of other human beings, and they are all priests. Acting on behalf of whom, exactly?
This is a Prophecy about the future Millennium and then the Eternal Kingdom. 1 Cor 15:24.
Rev 11:15, does not happen then, as the 7 Bowls remain yet.
I disagree. The scriptures we have been talking about do not teach that, IMO. It sounds to me like what you have put together to make sense out of what was a puzzle to you, is still a puzzle because you've got the pieces put together that do not fit, and ended with a false picture.
In the new Jerusalem. Rev 21
Agreed. The New Jerusalem which comes down from heaven when He returns when all the dead who died in Christ rise.
You cannot make that assumption. The rest of the dead must wait until the thousand years is over.
You cannot make the assumption that the rest of the dead are those who died in Christ but never rose from the dead when He returned. That is not what Paul said when He said for example that when Christ, who is our life appears, then we will (all) appear with Him in glory. Many other statements in the New Testament say that you are making the assumption that 1 Thess 4 is talking only about the martyred saints only who will rise, but your assumption is false.

Same with 1 Corinthians 15. You cannot make that assumption. Paul said afterward they who are Christ's at his coming in the context of speaking about the resurrection of the dead - the resurrection from Adam's death.
This gets into the realms of weirdness!
No what you said above about the thousand years then the resurrection of the rest of those who died in Christ and then the NHNE has got YOU into the realm of weirdness. You have made quite a few assumptions along the way and put scriptures together that do not belong together because they simply do not fit where you have placed them.
You need to read Ezekiel 38 again and understand where the horde comes from and what their intention is.
Their intention is to destroy those who are reigning with Christ in New Jerusalem - because they are reigning over them.

IMO you need to read Ezekiel again - but you don't need to read Ezekiel again through the same lens you are reading it - because that lens is full of your errors based on your assumptions.
 

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It goes over your head and you need to ask God. You really should ask God. Because only the Holy Spirit can explain it to you.

But you think you know it all already, before you even ask God.
Who are you to judge me like this? You're no one. I point out James 1:5-7 frequently to people as being a key to understanding and you have the gall to say this nonsense to me? I believe what I do because I have asked God for wisdom many times. To act like I never have is foolish and shows how judgmental and clueless you really are.

You clearly do not have the gift of teaching since you are not able to explain your view in a way that can be understood the way Jesus and the NT authors did. I don't need you to explain anything to me, that's for sure.

That's why you scoff at what you regard as "not a straightforward answer".
How about an answer that is not completely convoluted? Is that still asking for too much?

It's not a straightforward answer to you because it goes over your head. I can't explain this any better. You need to ask God, so that you don't end up scoffing at His Word.
No, I scoff at your false interpretations of His Word. Big difference.

No doubt they scoffed at Noah.
Oh, yeah, what Noah said that God was going to do was really hard to explain to people, wasn't it? Only God could reveal to people what Noah meant when he said God was going to send a flood on the entire earth. No one could possibly understand that otherwise. There was no straightforward way to explain a flood, obviously.

They scoffed at Moses in the wilderness. They scoffed at the prophets, they scoffed at Christ, and they scoffed at His apostles.

But they were not scoffing at them. They were scoffing at the Word of God and against God Himself.
LOL at you equating me scoffing at your nonsense with scoffing at the Word of God and gainst God Himself. Get over yourself already! That is completely foolish for you to make these comparisons as if your weak OPINIONS are equivalent to the Word of God itself.

I'm not writing this for you benefit. I'm writing this for the benefit of the saved remnant at the close of the thousand years. Some of them are alive now.
No one benefits from your foolish nonsense.

Most of the sons and daughters of Eve believe this:

"God has given me eternal life" [zoe] (period). Instead of this:

God has given me eternal life [zoe] in Christ, who alone has eternal life [zoe] in Himself. When Christ, who is my life [zoe] shall appear, then I will also appear with Him in glory.

Life [zoe] (eternal life) is in the Word of God alone. That knowledge should be your light. Adam believed the lie. So he died. The sons and daughters of Eve will end up dying a second death for believing the same lie.
You foolishly claim that the word "zao" is never used in scripture to refer to anyone without a body and, yet, Jesus did so when He referred to God as being the God of the living in reference to being the God of dead believers without bodies like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Mark 12:26-27). You are too AFRAID to even address that. I tried to get you to address that multiple times only to hear crickets in response.
 

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You foolishly claim that the word "zao" is never used in scripture to refer to anyone without a body and, yet, Jesus did so when He referred to God as being the God of the living in reference to being the God of dead believers without bodies like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Mark 12:26-27). You are too AFRAID to even address that. I tried to get you to address that multiple times only to hear crickets in response.
Your response was what I expected. You pride cannot allow you to understand scripture aright that's why you cannot understand what I'm saying.

And Jesus used the word zao in reference to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob because they were dead, not zao, and He was talking about the resurrection of the body from the dead that the Sadducees were denying, proving to them that in order to be zao Abraham, Isaac and Jacob needed to rise again bodily from the dead.

The Sadducees understood why His reply silenced their argument against the resurrection of the body from the dead. You do not.
 

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Your response was what I expected. You pride cannot allow you to understand scripture aright that's why you cannot understand what I'm saying.
I understood you perfectly because you specifically said that the word "zao" is never used to refer to a living human being without a body. That is not true, as I have proven.

And Jesus used the word zao in reference to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob because they were dead, not zao,
Huh? Read that. It makes no sense. Were you intending to say something else here? Jesus used the word zao, not zao? There's no way that's what you were intending to say, so what were you intending to say here?

and He was talking about the resurrection of the body from the dead that the Sadducees were denying, proving to them that in order to be zao Abraham, Isaac and Jacob needed to rise again bodily from the dead.
So, are you claiming that God is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob right now, but will be their God when they are bodily resurrected since He is not the God of the dead, but of the living? You said you don't believe in soul sleep, so I would assume your answer to the question is no. So, how can you think that Jesus was not referring to God being the God even of dead believers like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when He said that God is not the God of the dead, but of the living? Surely, He was not saying that God is not the God of the bodily dead, but of the bodily living. God is the God of the souls of those who are bodily dead, right? Are they not included among the living of whom God is their God?

The Sadducees understood why His reply silenced their argument against the resurrection of the body from the dead. You do not.
No, you do not, as evidenced by your weak response here. Jesus saying that God is not God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and that God is not the God of the dead, but of the living would show that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were not dead and did not cease to exist when they died as the Sadducees believed. By showing that dead believers like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were still alive despite their bodies being dead and that they didn't cease to exist, there was no basis for claiming that they couldn't be bodily resurrected from the dead. So, you are the one who doesn't understand why His reply silenced their argument against the bodily resurrection of the dead.
 
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I understood you perfectly because you specifically said that the word "zao" is never used to refer to a living human being without a body. That is not true, as I have proven.


Huh? Read that. It makes no sense. Were you intending to say something else here? Jesus used the word zao, not zao? There's no way that's what you were intending to say, so what were you intending to say here?


So, are you claiming that God is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob right now, but will be their God when they are bodily resurrected since He is not the God of the dead, but of the living? You said you don't believe in soul sleep, so I would assume your answer to the question is no. So, how can you think that Jesus was not referring to God being the God even of dead believers like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when He said that God is not the God of the dead, but of the living? Surely, He was not saying that God is not the God of the bodily dead, but of the bodily living. God is the God of the souls of those who are bodily dead, right? Are they not included among the living of whom God is their God?


No, you do not, as evidenced by your weak response here. Jesus saying that God is not God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and that God is not the God of the dead, but of the living would show that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were not dead and did not cease to exist when they died as the Sadducees believed. By showing that dead believers like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were still alive despite their bodies being dead and that they didn't cease to exist, there was no basis for claiming that they couldn't be bodily resurrected from the dead. So, you are the one who doesn't understand why His reply silenced their argument against the bodily resurrection of the dead.
The word zoe refers to life / eternal life in the New Testament (always). The word zao refers to being alive / living. The living [zao] God, the God who is alive [zao] has life [zoe] in Himself.

Whenever used in reference to created human beings, the word zao is talking about those who are alive in their bodies. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were not alive in their bodies. But God is the God of those who are alive in their bodies, not of the Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were were dead and would remain dead forever and never live again [zao] in their bodies. Jesus used the argument to prove to the Sadducees the error of their argument against the resurrection of the body from the dead - and it silenced their argument.

The fact that you don't understand that while the Saduccess did understand it, speaks volumes.
 

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The word zoe refers to life / eternal life in the New Testament (always). The word zao refers to being alive / living. The living [zao] God, the God who is alive [zao] has life [zoe] in Himself.

Whenever used in reference to created human beings, the word zao is talking about those who are alive in their bodies. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were not alive in their bodies. But God is the God of those who are alive in their bodies, not of the dead who will remain dead forever and never live again [zao] in their bodies. Jesus used the argument to prove to the Sadducees the error of their argument against the resurrection of the body from the dead - and it silenced their argument.

The fact that you don't understand that while the Saduccess did understand it, speaks volumes.
You are dodging the point here. Did you think I wouldn't notice that? You are butchering and twisting what Jesus said. Do you believe that God is the God of the living souls of bodily dead believers like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Or do you think He is only their God when they are bodily alive?

You specifically said that "God is the God of those who are alive in their bodies", so you are then changing what Jesus said as if He said "God is not the God of the bodily dead, but of the bodily living". But, that is not at all what He said. He is the God of bodily dead believers like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob right now because they are alive right now and He is not the God of the dead, but of the living like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. You acknowledge that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are spiritually alive now, so how can you deny that what I'm saying is true?
 

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You are dodging the point here. Did you think I wouldn't notice that? You are butchering and twisting what Jesus said. Do you believe that God is the God of the living souls of bodily dead believers like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Or do you think He is only their God when they are bodily alive?

You specifically said that "God is the God of those who are alive in their bodies", so you are then changing what Jesus said as if He said "God is not the God of the bodily dead, but of the bodily living". But, that is not at all what He said. He is the God of bodily dead believers like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob right now because they are alive right now and He is not the God of the dead, but of the living like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. You acknowledge that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are spiritually alive now, so how can you deny that what I'm saying is true?

He was using the fact that Abraham and Isaac and Jacob were not bodily living [zao], yet God was nevertheless still their God, to prove to the Saduccees that their arguments against the resurrection of the body from the dead were all mute - as mute as your arguments that He was referring to their eternal life [zoe] and not to the fact that because God was their God, therefore Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - who were dead and not zao (alive) - would rise from the dead bodily, and hence will be zao - alive in their resurrected bodies - following their resurrection from the dead.

Your understanding is lacking even in comparison to the understanding of the Sadducess, who at least understood why Jesus had silenced their arguments. Unlike you.

The word zao does not mean the same thing as the word zoe, though they are related words.

When used in respect of created human beings, zao is never used referring to their eternal life [zoe]

- which (eternal life, zoe) is the life that exists in the Word of God (John 1:4), and which among human beings, the Son of God alone possesses in Himself (created human beings do not possess zoe in ourselves - our eternal life that is given to us, is in Christ).

Zao (alive / living) is used both In reference to the living God (who has zoe - life - in Himself),

and in reference to human beings who are alive.

Of the very long list of New Testament verses using the word zao in reference to human beings, all of them are unambiguously and undeniably referring to human beings who are alive in their bodies.


One of the three passages where Amils and others who have been confused by Amil theology (including many Premils) believe that the word zao refers to their eternal life (zoe) is the one we are talking about now.

The other one is Revelation 20:4 (but Premils have not become confused about that passage by Amil theology).

I won't even talk now about the third one.​
 
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Priests have a function to act on behalf of other human beings, and they are all priests. Acting on behalf of whom, exactly?
A[[ the rest of the faithful Christian peoples, from every tribe , race, nation and language.
you've got the pieces put together that do not fit, and ended with a false picture.
Just your unsupported opinion.
The New Jerusalem which comes down from heaven when He returns when all the dead who died in Christ rise.
The NJ does not come until after the Millennium, THEN - all the dead; Christian and ungodly will rise to be Judged. Rev 20:11-15
You have made quite a few assumptions along the way and put scriptures together that do not belong together because they simply do not fit where you have placed them.
More faulty opinion.
Their intention is to destroy those who are reigning with Christ in New Jerusalem - because they are reigning over them.
The intention of Gog and his army, is as Eze 38 says.
You seem to have mixed up the Rev 20 mention of Gog, with his attack before Jesus Returns. Just about everything about them is different.
 

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A[[ the rest of the faithful Christian peoples, from every tribe , race, nation and language.

Just your unsupported opinion.

The NJ does not come until after the Millennium, THEN - all the dead; Christian and ungodly will rise to be Judged. Rev 20:11-15

More faulty opinion.

The intention of Gog and his army, is as Eze 38 says.
You seem to have mixed up the Rev 20 mention of Gog, with his attack before Jesus Returns. Just about everything about them is different.
Sounds like you have immortals living on earth for a thousand years being attacked at the close of the thousand years by Gog-Magog armies who are dead when they attack the living, because only the martyred will be living.
 

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You acknowledge that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are spiritually alive now,​
I acknowledged nothing about your belief about "spiritual life". The Bible does not talk about created humans being "spiritually alive", as you Amills all call it. The Bible never uses that expression. It talks about created human beings being given (eternal) life [zoe] in Christ, who alone has eternal life in Himself.

Eternal life [zoe] is that which in Colossians 1:26-27 Paul calls:

"The mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints", which is "Christ in you, the hope of glory."

Without being born of the Spirit, created humans simply do not have eternal life because eternal life is only given to us through "Christ in you, the hope of glory."

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is the absence of bodily life [zao]. Jesus was referring to the fact that Abraham and Isaac and Jacob were not bodily living [zao], yet God was nevertheless still their God, to prove to the Saduccees that their arguments against the resurrection of the body from the dead were all mute - as mute as your arguments that He was referring to their eternal life [zoe] and not to the fact that because God was their God, therefore Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - who were dead and not zao (alive) - would rise from the dead bodily, and hence will be zao - alive in their resurrected bodies - following their resurrection from the dead.​
 
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Sounds like you have immortals living on earth for a thousand years being attacked at the close of the thousand years by Gog-Magog armies who are dead when they attack the living, because only the martyred will be living.
End of conversation, because of your wrong assumptions and confused statements

It would have been nice if someone had seriously discussed the OP..
 

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The scriptures I post contradict your false beliefs.
Galatians 6:14-16 is entirely about Christian peoples. The Israel of God also must walk by that rule; which counts out Jewish Israel.
Well the Scriptures you post are according to the opinion of Keraz and not the Word as written.

And yes Gal. 6 14-16 do refer to Christians. but as the Book of Galatians as well as m any of Paul's other writings show the distinction between Jew and Gentile and Jewish believers and Gentile believers, your conclusion is wrong. Paul is making a distinction between natural Israel (as he did in Galatians) and spiritual Israel which are saved jews.

But to teh bigger question. The enitre nation of Israel is going to be saved during the tribulation period- specifically the last three days before Jesus returns.

Matter of Fact it is Israel crying- "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord as jesus required i Matthew that brings the return of Jesus!

Thjen the loong promised and prophesied kingdom which Israel is premier over happens on earth for 1,000 years as is written in the prophets.
 

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And yes Gal. 6 14-16 do refer to Christians. but as the Book of Galatians as well as m any of Paul's other writings show the distinction between Jew and Gentile and Jewish believers and Gentile believers, your conclusion is wrong. Paul is making a distinction between natural Israel (as he did in Galatians) and spiritual Israel which are saved jews.
Absolute rubbish, scripture is clear: there is only one people of God. John 17:20-23, 1 Cor 1:13, Ephesians 4:4-6, +
They are the faithful Christian peoples, Jew and Gentile.
But to teh bigger question. The enitre nation of Israel is going to be saved during the tribulation period- specifically the last three days before Jesus returns.
Dipsy nonsense. Nowhere is this Prophesied.
Your fav dream of being floated off to heaven, is just a pie in the sky and is never Prophesied to happen.

It is beyond me and scripture, to think that the current Jewish State of Israel, who hate Jesus, will all be saved and redeemed.
What the Prophets do say is: You will die for your sins. Isaiah 22:14
I intend to make away with both the wicked and the righteous ....from the Negev Northward. Ezekiel 21:4
The great Day of the Lords fiery wrath is near......it will make a sudden and terrible end to all who live in the Land. Zephaniah 1:14-18
 

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Well the Scriptures you post are according to the opinion of Keraz and not the Word as written.

And yes Gal. 6 14-16 do refer to Christians. but as the Book of Galatians as well as m any of Paul's other writings show the distinction between Jew and Gentile and Jewish believers and Gentile believers, your conclusion is wrong. Paul is making a distinction between natural Israel (as he did in Galatians) and spiritual Israel which are saved jews.
What distinction between Jew and Gentile believers are you talking about that Paul supposedly made? He did just the opposite of that and made no distinction between them. You must be reading a different Bible than I am.

Galatians 3:26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
 
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The enitre nation of Israel is going to be saved
Isaiah and Paul debunk dispensational delusion.

Isaiah 10
22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.

Romans 9
27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
 
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Dipsy nonsense. Nowhere is this Prophesied.
Your fav dream of being floated off to heaven, is just a pie in the sky and is never Prophesied to happen.

It is beyond me and scripture, to think that the current Jewish State of Israel, who hate Jesus, will all be saved and redeemed.
What the Prophets do say is: You will die for your sins. Isaiah 22:14
I intend to make away with both the wicked and the righteous ....from the Negev Northward. Ezekiel 21:4
The great Day of the Lords fiery wrath is near......it will make a sudden and terrible end to all who live in the Land. Zephaniah 1:14-18
I have cited the Scriptures that show all Israel will be saved at some point in the future! You choose to reinterpret them and make them your own Scripture.

Whether teh current state or future state of Israel- that is up to god. but you were a hater and enemy of God before you were saved!

But to remind you again and make you responsible to God and HIs word- here are the verses again that show the remnant of Israel will be saved in the future.

Ezekiel 20:

33 As I live, saith the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:

34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God.

37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:

38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

Jer. 31:

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:

36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.

Zechariah 13:8-9

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8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

Romans 11:

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

YOu are now accountable to God and His Word.
 

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What distinction between Jew and Gentile believers are you talking about that Paul supposedly made? He did just the opposite of that and made no distinction between them. You must be reading a different Bible than I am.

Galatians 3:26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
So you also believe there is no more male and female?
 

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Isaiah and Paul debunk dispensational delusion.

Isaiah 10
22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.

Romans 9
27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
Well it is not dispensational delusion but Biblical reality. It is a remnant that will be saved!

As a mattere of fact, it will be 1/3 of the nation of Israel that survives the tribulation period.

but here are a few verses from God to prove it is truth.

Romans 11:

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

Zechariah 13:8-9

King James Version

8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

Jer. 31:

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:

36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.

Ez. 20:

33 As I live, saith the Lord God, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you:

34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out.

35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face.

36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord God.

37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant:

38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

God knows what He says!



29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
 

Spiritual Israelite

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So you also believe there is no more male and female?
LOL. There is no more distinction between male and female when it comes to believers. One's gender is not a determining factor in being part of the body of Christ.

Nice job of avoiding answering the question. Are you afraid to answer the question or do you just want to make jokes instead?

What distinction between Jew and Gentile believers are you talking about that Paul supposedly made?
 

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It is a remnant that will be saved!
Thanks for the confirmation. But you said, "The enitre nation of Israel is going to be saved".

The remnant is not the nation. It is the faithful obedient portion of the nation.

It is called the remnant to distinguish it from the nation.

And only the remnant will be saved.
 
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